REM- music really misses them

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FR181798 said:

I read that the band cant stand to listen to a lot of the Out of time demos. They were demos and rejected for a reason etc. I dont see the point in some of the stuff that labels put out these days. The definitive versions usually make the record.

Listening to the 25th anniversary on Apple Music now. Not really digging the demo's and understand why the band might dislike them.

2-feign-reluctance

bflynn1 said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

Looking for the deluxe reissue which they've been working in order of release to date. No interest in vinyl reissues any longer.

How come?

I have less and less spare time to listen to a record, get up and turn the side over, etc,.

FR181798

Rolling Stone magazine Germany had an exclusive free REM 7 inch recently if anyone is interested. I would have bought a few but the only way to pay was by IMO to the UK which my bank charges an extra £10 for. Hoping to find someone in Germany to pick me up a copy.

There has been similar exclusive 7s in the past. Oasis, Cash, Dylan. I imported a few Dylan and sold the extras on but was lucky to break even and Dylan has a bigger fan base than REM. REM singles don't sell so well.

pj8

Out Of Time is favorite record by anyone, ever. The re-issue is great, I love the demos. As a musician myself though, I definitely get why they don't like to listen back to them.

JOEJOEJOE

I was fortunate to see REM on every tour from 1983 until the end. IMHO, they are one of the greatest American bands.

I have been listening to Live at The Olympia all morning....a great representation of their amazing catalog.

JH6056

JOEJOEJOE said:

I was fortunate to see REM on every tour from 1983 until the end. IMHO, they are one of the greatest American bands.

I have been listening to Live at The Olympia all morning....a great representation of their amazing catalog.

I almost was able to keep up with you JOEJOEJOE, I saw them on every tour from Fables through Up. You are lucky that you saw every single tour!

bootlegger10

Daysleeper is such an excellent song.

BIGDaddyWil

bootlegger10 said:

Daysleeper is such an excellent song.

Absolutely!!!

brianlux

Despite having seen the band int it's early years and being a long-time fan, I'd never seen all of Tourfilm until today.  I picked up a nice, sealed VHS and, much to my delight, my VCR player still works and I watched the film this afternoon.  Might fine stuff there! 

bootlegger10

For a band that broke up they sure still do a lot of interviews (mostly about reissues).   It gives me hope that they still talk and get along but each interview I listen to they always slam the door on future shows and new music.  Oh well.  

I don't understand how they wouldn't want to play a few one off shows for fun each year.  Hopefully Pearl Jam doesn't get over their music and performing any time soon.

Wobbie

REM > PJ

brianlux

Wobbie said:

REM > PJ

   OH, you are a brave man around these parts!  I might agree but don't tell anyone.

JH6056

brianlux said:

Wobbie said:

REM > PJ

   OH, you are a brave man around these parts!  I might agree but don't tell anyone.

I agree as well, but only because I feel peer pressure from Brianlux to agree  

JH6056

bootlegger10 said:

For a band that broke up they sure still do a lot of interviews (mostly about reissues).   It gives me hope that they still talk and get along but each interview I listen to they always slam the door on future shows and new music.  Oh well.  

I don't understand how they wouldn't want to play a few one off shows for fun each year.  Hopefully Pearl Jam doesn't get over their music and performing any time soon.

Very interesting, cuz I came here to mention the NPR interview I heard yesterday I think which was Mike Mills and Michael Stipe talking about the reissue for Automatic for the People.  At the end the interviewer (who may have been Steve Inskeep, I can't remember) said "You all still get along so well, you have good relationships with each other, you seem to still feel strongly about the music... why not get together and record again or play again?"

And Mike Mills answered immediately and said "Because to keep all that true, we can't."  (Or maybe "We won't").  They laughed but yes, it was another shut down of the idea.  They also talked about how proud they are of the fact that they quit while they were in a good place and still very proud of their music and their performances.

I disagree though that it's because REM "got over the music and performing", Mills and Buck still make music and play quite a bit.  Not sure what Stipe is up to most of the time, although I bet he makes music, he just doesn't share it.  And we all know that my favorite member Bill Berry is a farmer mainly, and a dad, but I bet he makes music now and then too.  I think I read an article where his son plays some instruments, so maybe we'll get a great father-son act out of that LOL!  But I don't think they got over music and playing, they just decided to quit while they were ahead and not be pulled back for nostalgia.  And if they really want to jam, I'm sure they can and maybe they do, just not in front of an audience or recording equipment.

2-feign-reluctance

The Automatic deluxe set is tops on my holiday list this year!

JH6056

2-feign-reluctance said:

The Automatic deluxe set is tops on my holiday list this year!

I heard the interview but didn't hear what the set itself is comprised of.  What does it include?

bootlegger10

JH6056 said:

bootlegger10 said:

For a band that broke up they sure still do a lot of interviews (mostly about reissues).   It gives me hope that they still talk and get along but each interview I listen to they always slam the door on future shows and new music.  Oh well.  

I don't understand how they wouldn't want to play a few one off shows for fun each year.  Hopefully Pearl Jam doesn't get over their music and performing any time soon.

Very interesting, cuz I came here to mention the NPR interview I heard yesterday I think which was Mike Mills and Michael Stipe talking about the reissue for Automatic for the People.  At the end the interviewer (who may have been Steve Inskeep, I can't remember) said "You all still get along so well, you have good relationships with each other, you seem to still feel strongly about the music... why not get together and record again or play again?"

And Mike Mills answered immediately and said "Because to keep all that true, we can't."  (Or maybe "We won't").  They laughed but yes, it was another shut down of the idea.  They also talked about how proud they are of the fact that they quit while they were in a good place and still very proud of their music and their performances.

I disagree though that it's because REM "got over the music and performing", Mills and Buck still make music and play quite a bit.  Not sure what Stipe is up to most of the time, although I bet he makes music, he just doesn't share it.  And we all know that my favorite member Bill Berry is a farmer mainly, and a dad, but I bet he makes music now and then too.  I think I read an article where his son plays some instruments, so maybe we'll get a great father-son act out of that LOL!  But I don't think they got over music and playing, they just decided to quit while they were ahead and not be pulled back for nostalgia.  And if they really want to jam, I'm sure they can and maybe they do, just not in front of an audience or recording equipment.

I meant were over performing REM tunes.  It just seems strange.  What is the harm in playing a few shows together unless they really don't like it?  Perhaps they don't think it is right to play shows without making new music.

mfc2006

2-feign-reluctance said:

The Automatic deluxe set is tops on my holiday list this year!

Same here!

JH6056

bootlegger10 said:

JH6056 said:

bootlegger10 said:

For a band that broke up they sure still do a lot of interviews (mostly about reissues).   It gives me hope that they still talk and get along but each interview I listen to they always slam the door on future shows and new music.  Oh well.  

I don't understand how they wouldn't want to play a few one off shows for fun each year.  Hopefully Pearl Jam doesn't get over their music and performing any time soon.

Very interesting, cuz I came here to mention the NPR interview I heard yesterday I think which was Mike Mills and Michael Stipe talking about the reissue for Automatic for the People.  At the end the interviewer (who may have been Steve Inskeep, I can't remember) said "You all still get along so well, you have good relationships with each other, you seem to still feel strongly about the music... why not get together and record again or play again?"

And Mike Mills answered immediately and said "Because to keep all that true, we can't."  (Or maybe "We won't").  They laughed but yes, it was another shut down of the idea.  They also talked about how proud they are of the fact that they quit while they were in a good place and still very proud of their music and their performances.

I disagree though that it's because REM "got over the music and performing", Mills and Buck still make music and play quite a bit.  Not sure what Stipe is up to most of the time, although I bet he makes music, he just doesn't share it.  And we all know that my favorite member Bill Berry is a farmer mainly, and a dad, but I bet he makes music now and then too.  I think I read an article where his son plays some instruments, so maybe we'll get a great father-son act out of that LOL!  But I don't think they got over music and playing, they just decided to quit while they were ahead and not be pulled back for nostalgia.  And if they really want to jam, I'm sure they can and maybe they do, just not in front of an audience or recording equipment.

I meant were over performing REM tunes.  It just seems strange.  What is the harm in playing a few shows together unless they really don't like it?  Perhaps they don't think it is right to play shows without making new music.

I think their point is bigger than that: I think they feel like they don't want to become a nostalgia act.  Think about how much money Coachella alone has probably offered them to reform.  But they feel like that chapter of their musical lives is over.  Still love making music (definitely half of them still love it), and seem to still be fond of each other and anxious to keep it that way.  I get it, even if it makes me sad.  Would LOVE to see them live again!

HughFreakingDillon

it must be maddening to be a fan and not understand why they broke up. how often do you hear of that in the music business? yes, we still like each other. yes, we're all still alive. yes, we still like making music. then why not reform? cuz we don't WANNA.