Didn't mean to hijack your thread Paul. Very sorry man. Just that of all my year's collecting Pearl Jam stuff, and I've been collecting A LOT of rare PJ merch since '91, this is the only item that I'm still shocked about @ it's value. Everything else, I'm cool with. This one, still get's to me every single time.
No probs man, I cant say i understand - but we are all entitled to our opinions.
But do let me know if you want it LOL
seriously i DO understand the frustration though. There have been countless test presses on ebay the last few year that I would really love to jump on, and we have to ask the same question - how do test presses get out there? I can never afford them but i sure would love to and if i could I would. The limited items are always a nightmare and regularly outside my budget, and being the compulsive guy i am I always want each item. I guess I have to live with the fact that its just not possible and sometimes I cant have it.
Same as me man. So many sweet Pearl Jam items out there I can't get a reach for. Would love that Pearl Jam ATA Road Case Used by Members of Pearl Jam .. that's on eBay right now. But you gotta live in Texas to pick it up. Those vinyl test pressings also go over a grand. And true, not possible to own every single Pearl Jam related item that's out there. Would be sweet though.
C'mon guys...No need to be calling each other out...Life is to short...You all need to step away from the keyboard, take a deep breath, have a drink and rock some Jam... >-
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Don't ever see that happening, i don't think they ever got out of the pressing plant and with it being cancelled - its about as likely as them suddenly selling the giveway and the missing link posters.
the GITD and coloured PJ20's were different as they were official released promos
So this is not an official Pearl Jam promo release? If not, then why hasn't Kat and Sea here shut down this offer on this release? Wouldn't this be, illegal? Just wondering because if it's not an official Pearl Jam promo item, and the band co. terminated this, how is it spreading? Have they charged the one's who took these copies and selling them? I just find it weird this is selling for over $1500+ when it was only pressed a few years ago? Given away, for free?
I just hope Pearl Jam Co. & the 10club presses more of these and releasing them, for under 50 bucks. But that's never gonna happen. But you never know.
For someone who is so heavily invested in the trading and distribution of bootlegs of this band, I'm surprised you'd question whether an official item sanctioned by management and the label was "legal"?
You obviously know better than that.
Wrong Eric. What I do is trade & distribute LIVE bootlegs, freely & "legal". I don't make a dime. For fans, by fans. The only thing that I've invested is my time to hook up my friends, freely. Nothing more. Nothing less. Talk to those that do make a profit and sell. Not me.
What exactly is wrong about my statement? Your reply only confirmed what I stated: that you trade and distribute bootlegs, correct? So you know the difference between a bootleg and an official release, correct? And you know the items being offered up by Paul's source are in fact official and not a bootleg, correct? Which is to say you shouldn't be questioning whether something being offered here is "illegal" when you know it's not, correct?
Be more careful with your words is all I'm suggesting. You've seen what has happened in the past when you've made "assumptions" only to be proven wrong.
Well off course this item is official. It say's Sony all over it. What I'm trying to say is if this item isn't supposed to be out there in the hands of the fan's, why is it then? Who is this one selling a 2nd copy & probably more here? It's OK to sell this product here that shouldn't be? THAT's what i'm trying to say. And the fact that it's value is high.
the GITD and coloured PJ20's were different as they were official released promos
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You were proven wrong back in Philly '09. So don't you dare point any fingers at me. OK?
I'm confused: was the above statement directed at me? Lol
If so, could you kindly elaborate on what you're talking about? I'm at a complete loss. The only interaction you and I had back at the '09 Philly shows was when I spotted you at the airport after the shows and unexpectedly handed you one of Mike's picks from the last show. So I really don't know where you're coming from.
And no fingers were pointed, virtually or otherwise. If was clear before you even posted your apology to Paul that you resented the value the item in question commands. And you were clearly calling into question its' value and authenticity for no other respectable reason (read: of no advancement in discussions about said item).
Relax. No need to get defensive. Just elaborate on that last comment.
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Perspective... Someone currently has only the clear one listed for $500 on the bay. Even at that to have all of them would cost you $2500. Btw there are bids on it
Whilst I hate to dwell on this - it's worth pointing out the only difference between the Gitd and this set is distribution. We have no idea why that is
I sure don't buy the argument that the sales shouldn't take place when a giveaway sale here is never taken down
Lets let it lie. Many people want the set and the intention was to just help those people out or give them the chance. Nothing more nothing less. Certainly didn't expect this shit storm.
I can remove it no problem if that makes things easier. No big deal.
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I get nothing from these sales, the only reason I even post them here is to try and make sure that real fans get a chance at them, and at a very realistic way under market price, and to keep them away from finding ebay in the future and to be available to only those with the very deep pockets. I just know that these sell for way more than this - and this just gives friends and fans the chance to get a great rarity for their collection at what I hoped would prove a cheap price.
I don't have the moola for this kind of thing, but I appreciate that you do this all the same
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I get nothing from these sales, the only reason I even post them here is to try and make sure that real fans get a chance at them, and at a very realistic way under market price, and to keep them away from finding ebay in the future and to be available to only those with the very deep pockets. I just know that these sell for way more than this - and this just gives friends and fans the chance to get a great rarity for their collection at what I hoped would prove a cheap price.
I don't have the moola for this kind of thing, but I appreciate that you do this all the same
Keep posting this stuff up paul. Without these threads many of us collectors have no chance. Cheers dude
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IMHO Paul is a great guy. He doesn't know me from a hole in the wall and has always given me honest prices about pj merch. I don't see any reason to question anything this man puts on the boards. He s just trying to make sure real fans get superior items for at market or under market value.
Interesting item. I see that it was going to be a promo for the 2009 Ten release. Kind of shocked the 10c didn't do one of their crazy ltd ed flash sales with this item. I wonder how many they have lying around?
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Interesting item. I see that it was going to be a promo for the 2009 Ten release. Kind of shocked the 10c didn't do one of their crazy ltd ed flash sales with this item. I wonder how many they have lying around?
no matter what... DO NOT try the cream cheese bagles. totally not worth the risk.
Didn't mean to hijack your thread Paul. Very sorry man. Just that of all my year's collecting Pearl Jam stuff, and I've been collecting A LOT of rare PJ merch since '91, this is the only item that I'm still shocked about @ it's value. Everything else, I'm cool with. This one, still get's to me every single time.
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If so, could you kindly elaborate on what you're talking about? I'm at a complete loss. The only interaction you and I had back at the '09 Philly shows was when I spotted you at the airport after the shows and unexpectedly handed you one of Mike's picks from the last show. So I really don't know where you're coming from.
And no fingers were pointed, virtually or otherwise. If was clear before you even posted your apology to Paul that you resented the value the item in question commands. And you were clearly calling into question its' value and authenticity for no other respectable reason (read: of no advancement in discussions about said item).
Relax. No need to get defensive. Just elaborate on that last comment.
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I sure don't buy the argument that the sales shouldn't take place when a giveaway sale here is never taken down
Lets let it lie. Many people want the set and the intention was to just help those people out or give them the chance. Nothing more nothing less. Certainly didn't expect this shit storm.
I can remove it no problem if that makes things easier. No big deal.
This could get very very silly
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Maybe it was acquired through the backdoor? Who knows. If it's available in 2 months I'll buy it Paul! $1500 is a steal!
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