Why does Obama make people comfy with the federal govt

otter

Who wants the federal government having a database of everybody's medical info? I don't get this at all.

How can anyone support a federal government taking more control of our lives?

Obama is the worst thing that has ever happened to the United States of America because his cult of personality is transforming the last place for freedom into the last place where people were free.

brianlux

Cult of Personality: A cult of personality arises when an individual uses mass media, propaganda, or other methods, to create an idealized, heroic, and, at times god-like public image, often through unquestioning flattery and praise.

Hyperbole: Hyperbole is the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally.

Yes? No?

lando

Ignorance is bliss

unsung

Agree with OP. Some of you want govt to control your every step.

Obama wants people to depend on govt because that equals votes.

ajedigecko

unsung wrote:

Agree with OP. Some of you want govt to control your every step.

Obama wants people to depend on govt because that equals votes.

Well said.


And i will add...many want to be viewed as an individual , while having our federal gov't set the choice to be made.

Prince Of Dorkness

unsung wrote:

Agree with OP. Some of you want govt to control your every step.

Obama wants people to depend on govt because that equals votes.

Votes for what?

He's never going to run for office again.

Honestly... It's been 5 years and he hasn't eaten a single baby and he hasn't started one death panel.

At what point are you going to admit your fur brained paranoia is just that?

Prince Of Dorkness

otter wrote:

Who wants the federal government having a database of everybody's medical info? I don't get this at all.

How can anyone support a federal government taking more control of our lives?

Obama is the worst thing that has ever happened to the United States of America because his cult of personality is transforming the last place for freedom into the last place where people were free.

Can you tell us more about this "federal government database of everybody's medical info?"

The one that doesn't exist!

Prince Of Dorkness

ajedigecko wrote:

Well said.

And i will add...many want to be viewed as an individual , while having our federal gov't set the choice to be made.

I'm still an individual.

And the federal government will not be making any of your healthcare choices. You and your doctor will do that.

As opposed to your health insurance company which does it now.

unsung

I don't believe that there's a person here who would say the system didn't need work, however adding MORE bureaucrats and federal government control is not the solution.

unsung

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Votes for what?

He's never going to run for office again.

Honestly... It's been 5 years and he hasn't eaten a single baby and he hasn't started one death panel.

At what point are you going to admit your fur brained paranoia is just that?

Democrats.

I'm actually one for NOT impeaching this idiot, even though he has numerous constitutional violations, because I know it wouldn't make a difference on how things are going.

aerial

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

ajedigecko wrote:

Well said.

And i will add...many want to be viewed as an individual , while having our federal gov't set the choice to be made.

I'm still an individual.

And the federal government will not be making any of your healthcare choices. You and your doctor will do that.

As opposed to your health insurance company which does it now.

Delusional :roll:

chadwick

im pretty sure all presidents have done there things to make us comfy w/ the fed govt. again, the president is a scapegoat & puppet.

look behind or in front of the president & you will see a huge engine gearing up or down, twisting & contorting truths, hiding dark secrets & raising false flags

no one is truly comfy w/ any government & if they are, they are out of their minds, corrupt & or they are them

chadwick

is dick cheney comfy w/ the fed govt? deep done... heck no he isn't. he knows what the fed govt is capable of.

Godfather.

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

otter wrote:

Who wants the federal government having a database of everybody's medical info? I don't get this at all.

How can anyone support a federal government taking more control of our lives?

Obama is the worst thing that has ever happened to the United States of America because his cult of personality is transforming the last place for freedom into the last place where people were free.

Can you tell us more about this "federal government database of everybody's medical info?"

The one that doesn't exist!

ahhhh dude take off the blinders...NSA,IRS,Bingahzi,failing obama care...the guy is a friggin momo with no clue on how to run a country and a big fat ZERO in military experiance but he sure likes sending guns and money to the middle east and our troops.

Godfather.

Go Beavers

Godfather. wrote:

ahhhh dude take off the blinders...NSA,IRS,Bingahzi,failing obama care...the guy is a friggin momo with no clue on how to run a country and a big fat ZERO in military experiance but he sure likes sending guns and money to the middle east and our troops.

Godfather.

The Affordable Care Act has already been declared a failure? I must be behind on my news.

I'd rather have a president with no military experience. What were the others? Bush was in the reserves and he really made great military decisions.

Gern Blansten

I am so glad Obama was re-elected. I can't wait for Hillary to serve 8 years after him.

The Faux News/Rush/Hannity/Levin/Paul consortium will continue to fade into the grave where their ideas belong.

Smellyman

aerial wrote:

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

ajedigecko wrote:

Well said.

And i will add...many want to be viewed as an individual , while having our federal gov't set the choice to be made.

I'm still an individual.

And the federal government will not be making any of your healthcare choices. You and your doctor will do that.

As opposed to your health insurance company which does it now.

Delusional :roll:

hahahahahahahahahahahaaha

Godfather.

Go Beavers wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

ahhhh dude take off the blinders...NSA,IRS,Bingahzi,failing obama care...the guy is a friggin momo with no clue on how to run a country and a big fat ZERO in military experiance but he sure likes sending guns and money to the middle east and our troops.

Godfather.

The Affordable Care Act has already been declared a failure? I must be behind on my news.

I'd rather have a president with no military experience. What were the others? Bush was in the reserves and he really made great military decisions.

always the Bush comebacks,like obama has made things better sense Bush left ?

Godfather.

Go Beavers

Godfather. wrote:

always the Bush comebacks,like obama has made things better sense Bush left ?

Godfather.

My bad. Kennedy was in the military and he didn't make the best decisions, either. I'd say things are better since Bush left.

redpoint

The thing that is scary to me is that many people seem to root for either Democrats or Republicans like they're sports teams. Even family and friends seem to want align their identity with one or the other and seem to be blinded by their party from looking at things from an objective angle. The two party system is really weakening the country, IMO.

In my opinion, Bush's administration was pretty bad and created a lot of turmoil for the country. Unfortunately I have the same sentiment towards Obama's admin. Some things have improved, some have worsened, but overall my personal feeling is that we've continued to slide backwards.

One of the biggest things that doesn't sit right with me is the Obama admin's military policies. After listening to his campaign speeches I would have thought we wouldn't be where we are now, with the number of troops committed to Afghanistan, Yemen, etc. Not to mention the ridiculous drone strikes. It was obvious that he was going to push for healthcare to change and alternative fuels - we saw that coming; but the military, spending, economy, welfare, and debt categories are pretty rough.
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BinFrog

otter wrote:

Who wants the federal government having a database of everybody's medical info?

If you take off the tin foil hat and actually, you know, look into the ACA, you will see that this is not the case at all. If you are going to troll, at least have some idea what you are talking about.

Cliffy6745

Godfather. wrote:

Go Beavers wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

ahhhh dude take off the blinders...NSA,IRS,Bingahzi,failing obama care...the guy is a friggin momo with no clue on how to run a country and a big fat ZERO in military experiance but he sure likes sending guns and money to the middle east and our troops.

Godfather.

The Affordable Care Act has already been declared a failure? I must be behind on my news.

I'd rather have a president with no military experience. What were the others? Bush was in the reserves and he really made great military decisions.

always the Bush comebacks,like obama has made things better sense Bush left ?

Godfather.

Things are not better than they were in 2008? Do tell.

otter

BinFrog wrote:

otter wrote:

Who wants the federal government having a database of everybody's medical info?

If you take off the tin foil hat and actually, you know, look into the ACA, you will see that this is not the case at all. If you are going to troll, at least have some idea what you are talking about.

One of the selling points of this law was that it would immediately employ 25,000 people to enter American's paper medical records into a computer data base.

The only way anyone could possibly support this terrible thing is if they squeeze their eyes shut real tight and stick their fingers in their ears and repeat..."O...BA...MA.....O...BA...MA" "Hope and change...hope and change...hope and change" "Bush bad...Bush bad...Bush bad"

Thanks BinFrog for reinforcing the ignorance of the Obama worshipers. You didn't even choose between mocking or name calling you did both.

BinFrog

otter wrote:

BinFrog wrote:

otter wrote:

Who wants the federal government having a database of everybody's medical info?

If you take off the tin foil hat and actually, you know, look into the ACA, you will see that this is not the case at all. If you are going to troll, at least have some idea what you are talking about.

One of the selling points of this law was that it would immediately employ 25,000 people to enter American's paper medical records into a computer data base.

The only way anyone could possibly support this terrible thing is if they squeeze their eyes shut real tight and stick their fingers in their ears and repeat..."O...BA...MA.....O...BA...MA" "Hope and change...hope and change...hope and change" "Bush bad...Bush bad...Bush bad"

Thanks BinFrog for reinforcing the ignorance of the Obama worshipers. You didn't even choose between mocking or name calling you did both.

Oh I'm sorry, I work in healthcare and I deal with this stuff on a daily basis. What are your credentials for this topic? Please tell me why I should take anything you have posted seriously?

Employing people to enter paper records into EMRs does not equate to centralizing them into a gov't database.

Call me an Obama supporter. I voted for him but am a registered independent, so I really don't care what you think of me. You are wrong, firing off nonsense and I'm calling you out.

thank you for pointing out your true colors. I didn't mock or name call. The whole premise of your "thought provoking" initial post in this thread was so inconceivably wrong that I don't even know where to begin. You are trying to call me out for ignorance? Oh the irony.

Gern Blansten

Thank you binfrog.

The ACA is a conservative idea patterned off of Romney's plan in Mass. There is so much disinformation from the GOP that people don't even think rationally any more.

Gern Blansten

otter wrote:

BinFrog wrote:

otter wrote:

Who wants the federal government having a database of everybody's medical info?

If you take off the tin foil hat and actually, you know, look into the ACA, you will see that this is not the case at all. If you are going to troll, at least have some idea what you are talking about.

One of the selling points of this law was that it would immediately employ 25,000 people to enter American's paper medical records into a computer data base.

The only way anyone could possibly support this terrible thing is if they squeeze their eyes shut real tight and stick their fingers in their ears and repeat..."O...BA...MA.....O...BA...MA" "Hope and change...hope and change...hope and change" "Bush bad...Bush bad...Bush bad"

Thanks BinFrog for reinforcing the ignorance of the Obama worshipers. You didn't even choose between mocking or name calling you did both.

The left wanted universal/single payer. The route the ACA took is the conservative plan....do you really not understand that?

otter

The question is: why are otherwise sensible people, because of Obama now trust, respect, and support an oppressive, gigantic beuracracy, run by a ruling class of elitests? I think that is a fair and reasonable question.

Actual 1960's radical hippies have made a complete 180 and are all in for a more powerful federal government. The only and I mean ONLY difference is the emergence of one man Barack Obama.

This I cannot understand. What is it about Obama? Aside from the media only reporting stuff that reinforces the imaginary genius and his pop-culture persona.

These people I am referring to do not agree with Obama's ideas and ideals because no sane American would.

What am I missing?

BinFrog

otter wrote:

The question is: why are otherwise sensible people, because of Obama now trust, respect, and support an oppressive, gigantic beuracracy, run by a ruling class of elitests? I think that is a fair and reasonable question.

Actual 1960's radical hippies have made a complete 180 and are all in for a more powerful federal government. The only and I mean ONLY difference is the emergence of one man Barack Obama.

This I cannot understand. What is it about Obama? Aside from the media only reporting stuff that reinforces the imaginary genius and his pop-culture persona.

These people I am referring to do not agree with Obama's ideas and ideals because no sane American would.

What am I missing?

Punctuation and coherency.

otter

BinFrog wrote:

otter wrote:

The question is: why are otherwise sensible people, because of Obama now trust, respect, and support an oppressive, gigantic beuracracy, run by a ruling class of elitests? I think that is a fair and reasonable question.

Actual 1960's radical hippies have made a complete 180 and are all in for a more powerful federal government. The only and I mean ONLY difference is the emergence of one man Barack Obama.

This I cannot understand. What is it about Obama? Aside from the media only reporting stuff that reinforces the imaginary genius and his pop-culture persona.

These people I am referring to do not agree with Obama's ideas and ideals because no sane American would.

What am I missing?

Punctuation and coherency.

Sorry I write above your reading level. Try slowing down and concentrating on each word then group the words to form sentences. After that try to comprehend the thought being expressed.

I think you can do it. Don't give up buddy.

Abuskedti

There are far too many people in the world.. People that can steal or harm or terrorize us.. this world can not be managed without a large unified presence - which is what government is... the same people that complain about too much government also complain when the government can not support them when they need it.

we have to learn to see the big picture in all of our thoughts, which is difficult when the television pretends to know things - and bombards us with fears...

there are billions of people... billions..... and we need food and hospitals and learnin... withoug learnin we can't survive.. without BIG government we can't survive..

so we shrink the poplulation significantly, or work on a better government with the understanding that big government is here to stay and thank God for that

Go Beavers

otter wrote:

BinFrog wrote:

otter wrote:

The question is: why are otherwise sensible people, because of Obama now trust, respect, and support an oppressive, gigantic beuracracy, run by a ruling class of elitests? I think that is a fair and reasonable question.

Actual 1960's radical hippies have made a complete 180 and are all in for a more powerful federal government. The only and I mean ONLY difference is the emergence of one man Barack Obama.

This I cannot understand. What is it about Obama? Aside from the media only reporting stuff that reinforces the imaginary genius and his pop-culture persona.

These people I am referring to do not agree with Obama's ideas and ideals because no sane American would.

What am I missing?

Punctuation and coherency.

Sorry I write above your reading level. Try slowing down and concentrating on each word then group the words to form sentences. After that try to comprehend the thought being expressed.

I think you can do it. Don't give up buddy.

Sorry otter, but your point isn't very clear. What oppressive, giant bureaucracy are people supporting? Which people? Which 60's radicals are in favor of a more powerful government? Are you talking about the Affordable care act, or something else? Then you said they don't agree with Obama's ideals after saying earlier in the post that they do. Keep in mind that you started a thread the other day about liberals not being able to make a good argument.