Pope: who am i to judge?

Last-12-Exit

Jason P wrote:

Vatican Quickly Performs Damage Control On Pope’s Tolerant Remarks

VATICAN CITY—Following Pope Francis’ tolerant remarks Sunday about homosexuals and the Catholic Church, Vatican officials reportedly went into crisis mode, announcing that the Pope’s thoughtful message of understanding was clearly taken out of context. “It is not the official stance of the Pope or the Catholic Church that all people of good will who seek the Lord, especially gay people, should be accepted by Christ,” a visibly nervous Vatican spokesman told reporters, adding that the Holy Father was clearly tired after his long trip to Brazil and never meant for his comments to sound caring or realistic. “Homosexuality is a disorder. And this in no way means that, going forward, the Catholic Church will be an open-minded, more sensible organization. I assure you we are just as prejudiced and backward today as we were yesterday. Thank you.” According to an anonymous source close to the Vatican, the Pope is currently being yelled at by Church officials, who are telling him, “You don’t just go off script like that. Who the fuck do you think you are?”

http://www.theonion.com/articles/vatican-quickly-performs-damage-control-on-popes-t,33292/

Especially gay people?

That's ridiculous.

Smellyman

Last-12-Exit wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Vatican Quickly Performs Damage Control On Pope’s Tolerant Remarks

VATICAN CITY—Following Pope Francis’ tolerant remarks Sunday about homosexuals and the Catholic Church, Vatican officials reportedly went into crisis mode, announcing that the Pope’s thoughtful message of understanding was clearly taken out of context. “It is not the official stance of the Pope or the Catholic Church that all people of good will who seek the Lord, especially gay people, should be accepted by Christ,” a visibly nervous Vatican spokesman told reporters, adding that the Holy Father was clearly tired after his long trip to Brazil and never meant for his comments to sound caring or realistic. “Homosexuality is a disorder. And this in no way means that, going forward, the Catholic Church will be an open-minded, more sensible organization. I assure you we are just as prejudiced and backward today as we were yesterday. Thank you.” According to an anonymous source close to the Vatican, the Pope is currently being yelled at by Church officials, who are telling him, “You don’t just go off script like that. Who the fuck do you think you are?”

http://www.theonion.com/articles/vatican-quickly-performs-damage-control-on-popes-t,33292/

Especially gay people?

That's ridiculous.

Last-12-Exit

Smellyman wrote:

Last-12-Exit wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Vatican Quickly Performs Damage Control On Pope’s Tolerant Remarks

VATICAN CITY—Following Pope Francis’ tolerant remarks Sunday about homosexuals and the Catholic Church, Vatican officials reportedly went into crisis mode, announcing that the Pope’s thoughtful message of understanding was clearly taken out of context. “It is not the official stance of the Pope or the Catholic Church that all people of good will who seek the Lord, especially gay people, should be accepted by Christ,” a visibly nervous Vatican spokesman told reporters, adding that the Holy Father was clearly tired after his long trip to Brazil and never meant for his comments to sound caring or realistic. “Homosexuality is a disorder. And this in no way means that, going forward, the Catholic Church will be an open-minded, more sensible organization. I assure you we are just as prejudiced and backward today as we were yesterday. Thank you.” According to an anonymous source close to the Vatican, the Pope is currently being yelled at by Church officials, who are telling him, “You don’t just go off script like that. Who the fuck do you think you are?”

http://www.theonion.com/articles/vatican-quickly-performs-damage-control-on-popes-t,33292/

Especially gay people?

That's ridiculous.

Im of the opinion that the onion is more reliable than CNN or fox.

Pjzepp67

Jason P wrote:

Vatican Quickly Performs Damage Control On Pope’s Tolerant Remarks

VATICAN CITY—Following Pope Francis’ tolerant remarks Sunday about homosexuals and the Catholic Church, Vatican officials reportedly went into crisis mode, announcing that the Pope’s thoughtful message of understanding was clearly taken out of context. “It is not the official stance of the Pope or the Catholic Church that all people of good will who seek the Lord, especially gay people, should be accepted by Christ,” a visibly nervous Vatican spokesman told reporters, adding that the Holy Father was clearly tired after his long trip to Brazil and never meant for his comments to sound caring or realistic. “Homosexuality is a disorder. And this in no way means that, going forward, the Catholic Church will be an open-minded, more sensible organization. I assure you we are just as prejudiced and backward today as we were yesterday. Thank you.” According to an anonymous source close to the Vatican, the Pope is currently being yelled at by Church officials, who are telling him, “You don’t just go off script like that. Who the fuck do you think you are?”

http://www.theonion.com/articles/vatican-quickly-performs-damage-control-on-popes-t,33292/

Vile...if true...but the pesentation of the statemets does come across as dubious in the least :fp:

kenny olav

subtext of he said: God will do the judging/punishing

MotoDC

Pjzepp67 wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Vatican Quickly Performs Damage Control On Pope’s Tolerant Remarks

VATICAN CITY—Following Pope Francis’ tolerant remarks Sunday about homosexuals and the Catholic Church, Vatican officials reportedly went into crisis mode, announcing that the Pope’s thoughtful message of understanding was clearly taken out of context. “It is not the official stance of the Pope or the Catholic Church that all people of good will who seek the Lord, especially gay people, should be accepted by Christ,” a visibly nervous Vatican spokesman told reporters, adding that the Holy Father was clearly tired after his long trip to Brazil and never meant for his comments to sound caring or realistic. “Homosexuality is a disorder. And this in no way means that, going forward, the Catholic Church will be an open-minded, more sensible organization. I assure you we are just as prejudiced and backward today as we were yesterday. Thank you.” According to an anonymous source close to the Vatican, the Pope is currently being yelled at by Church officials, who are telling him, “You don’t just go off script like that. Who the fuck do you think you are?”

http://www.theonion.com/articles/vatican-quickly-performs-damage-control-on-popes-t,33292/

Vile...if true...but the pesentation of the statemets does come across as dubious in the least :fp:

It's The Onion. Tongue-in-cheek and all that. Cheers.

fife

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

callen wrote:

The church knows it has to evolve to survive. Plus he knows 80 % of his priests are gay.

Well no.... about that many are pedophiles.

Not nearly as many as you might think are gay.

I don't want to jump on you but these are both assumptions. I am not even close to a fan of the church (any church/religion) but i also suspect that many of the people involved in the church are actually not the devil.

Pjzepp67

MotoDC wrote:

Pjzepp67 wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Vatican Quickly Performs Damage Control On Pope’s Tolerant Remarks

VATICAN CITY—Following Pope Francis’ tolerant remarks Sunday about homosexuals and the Catholic Church, Vatican officials reportedly went into crisis mode, announcing that the Pope’s thoughtful message of understanding was clearly taken out of context. “It is not the official stance of the Pope or the Catholic Church that all people of good will who seek the Lord, especially gay people, should be accepted by Christ,” a visibly nervous Vatican spokesman told reporters, adding that the Holy Father was clearly tired after his long trip to Brazil and never meant for his comments to sound caring or realistic. “Homosexuality is a disorder. And this in no way means that, going forward, the Catholic Church will be an open-minded, more sensible organization. I assure you we are just as prejudiced and backward today as we were yesterday. Thank you.” According to an anonymous source close to the Vatican, the Pope is currently being yelled at by Church officials, who are telling him, “You don’t just go off script like that. Who the fuck do you think you are?”

http://www.theonion.com/articles/vatican-quickly-performs-damage-control-on-popes-t,33292/

Vile...if true...but the pesentation of the statemets does come across as dubious in the least :fp:

It's The Onion. Tongue-in-cheek and all that. Cheers.

I think I'll start tuning into The Onion on a regular basis...the real news is gettin' far too boring...

moretonbayfig

Absolute gold! 'Who am I to judge the Pope, says gay man':

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/soci ... 3073077345

Jason P

Pjzepp67 wrote:

I think I'll start tuning into The Onion on a regular basis...the real news is gettin' far too boring...

Checkout their undercover reporting on Super Monkey Colliders ...

:shock:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/super-monkey-collider-loses-funding,1113/

vant0037

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

here is my question.

my belief system has changed several times in my 38 years.

can't god evolve his postions from the books written a couple of thousand years ago, or is he bound to what is written? i mean he IS god, so can't he adapt and evolve like everyone else??

I used to have a theory somewhere that if God is omnipotent (in the Christian sense: all-powerful, all-seeing, without equal etc), then he/she must also be beyond comparison and therefore indescribable, as our language is, by nature, limiting and finite in it's application. And if God is indescribable, then our words about him/her are meaningless. I played around with this as a way to attack religion when it's used as a weapon against others.

I'm not sure if the theory makes any sense, but I used to kick it around a lot. Then I got bored with it.

vant0037

By the way, hi Rod. Sorry I missed you in Chicago. Still recovering.

Pjzepp67

Jason P wrote:

Pjzepp67 wrote:

I think I'll start tuning into The Onion on a regular basis...the real news is gettin' far too boring...

Checkout their undercover reporting on Super Monkey Colliders ...

:shock:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/super-monkey-collider-loses-funding,1113/

Yeaaaaah fuck it...the Onion is now my news source of choice...Dick van Dyke, you absolute bastard...whodathunkit

Jason P

Check out the new / old popemobile ...

callen

mysticweed wrote:

Last-12-Exit wrote:

Just heard in CNN that the pope said that if someone is gay, and accepts god, and has good will; who am I to judge?

I'm in no way religious, but good for him.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video ... c=americas

i feel the same
he's been pretty cool as popes go

This was forced by evolution. All religions will adjust their stands in order to survive but in the end all will become extinct.

callen

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Or, in more colorful POD language...

I am supposed to be grateful because now they JUST call me a sinner and not an abomination or the cause for the downfall of civilization?

The pope/head child molester/whatever Frannie Fanny wants to call herself can eat shit as far as I'm concerned. Sell the Vatican. Give the money to their victims. Jail the people you find inside.

Poetry. Love it pod.

fife

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/1 ... _inthenews

interesting article

know1

vant0037 wrote:

I used to have a theory somewhere that if God is omnipotent (in the Christian sense: all-powerful, all-seeing, without equal etc), then he/she must also be beyond comparison and therefore indescribable, as our language is, by nature, limiting and finite in it's application. And if God is indescribable, then our words about him/her are meaningless. I played around with this as a way to attack religion when it's used as a weapon against others.

I'm not sure if the theory makes any sense, but I used to kick it around a lot. Then I got bored with it.

Actually, I get what you're saying and tend to agree (and I'm religious).

I particularly think it's true when people try to rationalize why God doesn't exist or make sense. I always wonder why, if there really was an Omnipotent, Omniscient God, why would anyone think it logical to disprove God's existence utilizing our extremely limited human knowledge, experience or logic.

It would be like getting a millisecond view of a scenario and then saying exactly what was happening. You couldn't have any real confidence as to your own theory.

backseatLover12

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/franc ... y-marriage

Francis Dumps U.S. Cardinal Who Is Outspoken Critic Of Abortion, Gay Marriage

chadwick

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

here is my question.

my belief system has changed several times in my 38 years.

can't god evolve his postions from the books written a couple of thousand years ago, or is he bound to what is written? i mean he IS god, so can't he adapt and evolve like everyone else??

god is evolution, god is all positions far & wide, inside out, overlapped & overwhelming
god would be those thousands of years you asked about with the writings of some books. god is bound to only self
i'd think god is all time, past, present & future
every episode, star birthed, solar flare or fire ant colony thriving in whatever jungle
4278 trillion light years further ahead & behind at once is dead center for merely that split second

we each are squared up dead center w/ one another, nature & natural elements