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  • vant0037vant0037 Posts: 6,116
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    here is my question.

    my belief system has changed several times in my 38 years.

    can't god evolve his postions from the books written a couple of thousand years ago, or is he bound to what is written? i mean he IS god, so can't he adapt and evolve like everyone else??

    I used to have a theory somewhere that if God is omnipotent (in the Christian sense: all-powerful, all-seeing, without equal etc), then he/she must also be beyond comparison and therefore indescribable, as our language is, by nature, limiting and finite in it's application. And if God is indescribable, then our words about him/her are meaningless. I played around with this as a way to attack religion when it's used as a weapon against others.

    I'm not sure if the theory makes any sense, but I used to kick it around a lot. Then I got bored with it. :lol:
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  • vant0037vant0037 Posts: 6,116
    By the way, hi Rod. Sorry I missed you in Chicago. Still recovering. :lol:
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  • Pjzepp67Pjzepp67 Posts: 445
    Jason P wrote:
    Pjzepp67 wrote:

    I think I'll start tuning into The Onion on a regular basis...the real news is gettin' far too boring... ;)
    Checkout their undercover reporting on Super Monkey Colliders ...

    :shock:

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/super-monkey-collider-loses-funding,1113/

    Yeaaaaah fuck it...the Onion is now my news source of choice...Dick van Dyke, you absolute bastard...whodathunkit :o
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Check out the new / old popemobile ...

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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    mysticweed wrote:
    Last-12-Exit wrote:
    Just heard in CNN that the pope said that if someone is gay, and accepts god, and has good will; who am I to judge?

    I'm in no way religious, but good for him.

    http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video ... c=americas


    i feel the same
    he's been pretty cool as popes go
    This was forced by evolution. All religions will adjust their stands in order to survive but in the end all will become extinct.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    Or, in more colorful POD language...

    I am supposed to be grateful because now they JUST call me a sinner and not an abomination or the cause for the downfall of civilization?

    The pope/head child molester/whatever Frannie Fanny wants to call herself can eat shit as far as I'm concerned. Sell the Vatican. Give the money to their victims. Jail the people you find inside.
    Poetry. Love it pod. :mrgreen::mrgreen:
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  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/1 ... _inthenews

    interesting article
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    vant0037 wrote:
    I used to have a theory somewhere that if God is omnipotent (in the Christian sense: all-powerful, all-seeing, without equal etc), then he/she must also be beyond comparison and therefore indescribable, as our language is, by nature, limiting and finite in it's application. And if God is indescribable, then our words about him/her are meaningless. I played around with this as a way to attack religion when it's used as a weapon against others.

    I'm not sure if the theory makes any sense, but I used to kick it around a lot. Then I got bored with it. :lol:

    Actually, I get what you're saying and tend to agree (and I'm religious).

    I particularly think it's true when people try to rationalize why God doesn't exist or make sense. I always wonder why, if there really was an Omnipotent, Omniscient God, why would anyone think it logical to disprove God's existence utilizing our extremely limited human knowledge, experience or logic.

    It would be like getting a millisecond view of a scenario and then saying exactly what was happening. You couldn't have any real confidence as to your own theory.
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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    here is my question.

    my belief system has changed several times in my 38 years.

    can't god evolve his postions from the books written a couple of thousand years ago, or is he bound to what is written? i mean he IS god, so can't he adapt and evolve like everyone else??

    god is evolution, god is all positions far & wide, inside out, overlapped & overwhelming
    god would be those thousands of years you asked about with the writings of some books. god is bound to only self
    i'd think god is all time, past, present & future
    every episode, star birthed, solar flare or fire ant colony thriving in whatever jungle
    4278 trillion light years further ahead & behind at once is dead center for merely that split second

    we each are squared up dead center w/ one another, nature & natural elements
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    the more i learn about this pope, the more i like him.

    i am worried that since he is more progressive, some hardliner might try to kill him.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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