Pope: who am i to judge?

Last-12-Exit

Just heard in CNN that the pope said that if someone is gay, and accepts god, and has good will; who am I to judge?

I'm in no way religious, but good for him.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video ... c=americas

mysticweed

Last-12-Exit wrote:

Just heard in CNN that the pope said that if someone is gay, and accepts god, and has good will; who am I to judge?

I'm in no way religious, but good for him.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video ... c=americas

i feel the same
he's been pretty cool as popes go

Pjzepp67

Last-12-Exit wrote:

Just heard in CNN that the pope said that if someone is gay, and accepts god, and has good will; who am I to judge?

I'm in no way religious, but good for him.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video ... c=americas

A tad two-faced considering his oft aired negative views on homosexuality in the near past...but hey-ho progress is progress...now, will some one rid us of these turbulent priests :corn:

Last-12-Exit

Pjzepp67 wrote:

Last-12-Exit wrote:

Just heard in CNN that the pope said that if someone is gay, and accepts god, and has good will; who am I to judge?

I'm in no way religious, but good for him.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video ... c=americas

A tad two-faced considering his oft aired negative views on homosexuality in the near past...but hey-ho progress is progress...now, will some one rid us of these turbulent priests :corn:

Lol. Who am I to judge the hypocrisy of religion. Hopefully the top dog catholic will be able to sway the opinions of those that think otherwise.

hedonist

Last-12-Exit wrote:

Just heard in CNN that the pope said that if someone is gay, and accepts god, and has good will; who am I to judge?

I'm in no way religious, but good for him.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video ... c=americas

This fella seems OK for the most part to me; certainly more accepting / open than others.

But, imagine if that lack of judgment also removed the "accepts god" part. I mean, if someone has goodwill, if they live by the basic tenets of compassion, generosity and kindness, is (the acceptance of) god necessary?

Those traits in and of themselves should be enough.

For me, they are.

(then again, I'm no pope!)

Pjzepp67

hedonist wrote:

Last-12-Exit wrote:

Just heard in CNN that the pope said that if someone is gay, and accepts god, and has good will; who am I to judge?

I'm in no way religious, but good for him.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video ... c=americas

This fella seems OK for the most part to me; certainly more accepting / open than others.

But, imagine if that lack of judgment also removed the "accepts god" part. I mean, if someone has goodwill, if they live by the basic tenets of compassion, generosity and kindness, is (the acceptance of) god necessary?

Those traits in and of themselves should be enough.

For me, they are.

(then again, I'm no pope!)

Female, Hedonist, Pope...hmmm, have we come that far :twisted:

hedonist

Pjzepp67 wrote:

Female, Hedonist, Pope...hmmm, have we come that far :twisted:

I'd probably be booted post-haste

gimmesometruth27

who wants to bet that this pope just got himself into some serious trouble??

gimmesometruth27

here is my question.

my belief system has changed several times in my 38 years.

can't god evolve his postions from the books written a couple of thousand years ago, or is he bound to what is written? i mean he IS god, so can't he adapt and evolve like everyone else??

hedonist

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

here is my question.

my belief system has changed several times in my 38 years.

can't god evolve his postions from the books written a couple of thousand years ago, or is he bound to what is written? i mean he IS god, so can't he adapt and evolve like everyone else??

Valid question.

If there is a god, I think it'd realize the times, they are (and have been) a'changin.



-- and upon further reflection, I have no bloody clue

brianlux

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

here is my question.

my belief system has changed several times in my 38 years.

can't god evolve his postions from the books written a couple of thousand years ago, or is he bound to what is written? i mean he IS god, so can't he adapt and evolve like everyone else??

God has a clever plan for us, good man: At the beginning of our afterlives we travel many times between several after-life vacation spots including Heaven, Purgatory, Hell, Nirvana, The Happy Hunting Ground, Limbo, The Cedar Forest, The Summerland, Asphodel Meadows and even The Rainbow Bridge and then we get to choose one! But we need not be in a hurry, of course.

Last-12-Exit

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

here is my question.

my belief system has changed several times in my 38 years.

can't god evolve his postions from the books written a couple of thousand years ago, or is he bound to what is written? i mean he IS god, so can't he adapt and evolve like everyone else??

Shouldn't god have seen this coming?

Prince Of Dorkness

For fucks sake people.... Stop dancing in the streets.

He isn't ok with gays.

He's ok with gay priests who choose to remain celebrate. Because that's always worked out so well for the Catholic Church.

:fp:

He still hates me and says I'm going to his made-up hell and he's still a swine.

Prince Of Dorkness

Or, in more colorful POD language...

I am supposed to be grateful because now they JUST call me a sinner and not an abomination or the cause for the downfall of civilization?

The pope/head child molester/whatever Frannie Fanny wants to call herself can eat shit as far as I'm concerned. Sell the Vatican. Give the money to their victims. Jail the people you find inside.

Digital Twilight

http://www.newslo.com/pope-criminalizes ... ex-crimes/

Byrnzie

brianlux wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

here is my question.

my belief system has changed several times in my 38 years.

can't god evolve his postions from the books written a couple of thousand years ago, or is he bound to what is written? i mean he IS god, so can't he adapt and evolve like everyone else??

God has a clever plan for us, good man: At the beginning of our afterlives we travel many times between several after-life vacation spots including Heaven, Purgatory, Hell, Nirvana, The Happy Hunting Ground, Limbo, The Cedar Forest, The Summerland, Asphodel Meadows and even The Rainbow Bridge and then we get to choose one! But we need not be in a hurry, of course.

You forgot Elizium.

MotoDC

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

here is my question.

my belief system has changed several times in my 38 years.

can't god evolve his postions from the books written a couple of thousand years ago, or is he bound to what is written? i mean he IS god, so can't he adapt and evolve like everyone else??

That's just a fancier version of the old cliche "Can God microwave a burrito so that it's too hot for even Him to eat?"

gimmesometruth27

MotoDC wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

here is my question.

my belief system has changed several times in my 38 years.

can't god evolve his postions from the books written a couple of thousand years ago, or is he bound to what is written? i mean he IS god, so can't he adapt and evolve like everyone else??

That's just a fancier version of the old cliche "Can God microwave a burrito so that it's too hot for even Him to eat?"

you sir, just blew my mind

callen

Last-12-Exit wrote:

Just heard in CNN that the pope said that if someone is gay, and accepts god, and has good will; who am I to judge?

I'm in no way religious, but good for him.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video ... c=americas

The church knows it has to evolve to survive. Plus he knows 80 % of his priests are gay.

Prince Of Dorkness

callen wrote:

The church knows it has to evolve to survive. Plus he knows 80 % of his priests are gay.

Well no.... about that many are pedophiles.

Not nearly as many as you might think are gay.

Jason P

Vatican Quickly Performs Damage Control On Pope’s Tolerant Remarks

VATICAN CITY—Following Pope Francis’ tolerant remarks Sunday about homosexuals and the Catholic Church, Vatican officials reportedly went into crisis mode, announcing that the Pope’s thoughtful message of understanding was clearly taken out of context. “It is not the official stance of the Pope or the Catholic Church that all people of good will who seek the Lord, especially gay people, should be accepted by Christ,” a visibly nervous Vatican spokesman told reporters, adding that the Holy Father was clearly tired after his long trip to Brazil and never meant for his comments to sound caring or realistic. “Homosexuality is a disorder. And this in no way means that, going forward, the Catholic Church will be an open-minded, more sensible organization. I assure you we are just as prejudiced and backward today as we were yesterday. Thank you.” According to an anonymous source close to the Vatican, the Pope is currently being yelled at by Church officials, who are telling him, “You don’t just go off script like that. Who the fuck do you think you are?”

http://www.theonion.com/articles/vatican-quickly-performs-damage-control-on-popes-t,33292/

Last-12-Exit

Jason P wrote:

Vatican Quickly Performs Damage Control On Pope’s Tolerant Remarks

VATICAN CITY—Following Pope Francis’ tolerant remarks Sunday about homosexuals and the Catholic Church, Vatican officials reportedly went into crisis mode, announcing that the Pope’s thoughtful message of understanding was clearly taken out of context. “It is not the official stance of the Pope or the Catholic Church that all people of good will who seek the Lord, especially gay people, should be accepted by Christ,” a visibly nervous Vatican spokesman told reporters, adding that the Holy Father was clearly tired after his long trip to Brazil and never meant for his comments to sound caring or realistic. “Homosexuality is a disorder. And this in no way means that, going forward, the Catholic Church will be an open-minded, more sensible organization. I assure you we are just as prejudiced and backward today as we were yesterday. Thank you.” According to an anonymous source close to the Vatican, the Pope is currently being yelled at by Church officials, who are telling him, “You don’t just go off script like that. Who the fuck do you think you are?”

http://www.theonion.com/articles/vatican-quickly-performs-damage-control-on-popes-t,33292/

Especially gay people?

That's ridiculous.

Smellyman

Last-12-Exit wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Vatican Quickly Performs Damage Control On Pope’s Tolerant Remarks

VATICAN CITY—Following Pope Francis’ tolerant remarks Sunday about homosexuals and the Catholic Church, Vatican officials reportedly went into crisis mode, announcing that the Pope’s thoughtful message of understanding was clearly taken out of context. “It is not the official stance of the Pope or the Catholic Church that all people of good will who seek the Lord, especially gay people, should be accepted by Christ,” a visibly nervous Vatican spokesman told reporters, adding that the Holy Father was clearly tired after his long trip to Brazil and never meant for his comments to sound caring or realistic. “Homosexuality is a disorder. And this in no way means that, going forward, the Catholic Church will be an open-minded, more sensible organization. I assure you we are just as prejudiced and backward today as we were yesterday. Thank you.” According to an anonymous source close to the Vatican, the Pope is currently being yelled at by Church officials, who are telling him, “You don’t just go off script like that. Who the fuck do you think you are?”

http://www.theonion.com/articles/vatican-quickly-performs-damage-control-on-popes-t,33292/

Especially gay people?

That's ridiculous.

Last-12-Exit

Smellyman wrote:

Last-12-Exit wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Vatican Quickly Performs Damage Control On Pope’s Tolerant Remarks

VATICAN CITY—Following Pope Francis’ tolerant remarks Sunday about homosexuals and the Catholic Church, Vatican officials reportedly went into crisis mode, announcing that the Pope’s thoughtful message of understanding was clearly taken out of context. “It is not the official stance of the Pope or the Catholic Church that all people of good will who seek the Lord, especially gay people, should be accepted by Christ,” a visibly nervous Vatican spokesman told reporters, adding that the Holy Father was clearly tired after his long trip to Brazil and never meant for his comments to sound caring or realistic. “Homosexuality is a disorder. And this in no way means that, going forward, the Catholic Church will be an open-minded, more sensible organization. I assure you we are just as prejudiced and backward today as we were yesterday. Thank you.” According to an anonymous source close to the Vatican, the Pope is currently being yelled at by Church officials, who are telling him, “You don’t just go off script like that. Who the fuck do you think you are?”

http://www.theonion.com/articles/vatican-quickly-performs-damage-control-on-popes-t,33292/

Especially gay people?

That's ridiculous.

Im of the opinion that the onion is more reliable than CNN or fox.

Pjzepp67

Jason P wrote:

Vatican Quickly Performs Damage Control On Pope’s Tolerant Remarks

VATICAN CITY—Following Pope Francis’ tolerant remarks Sunday about homosexuals and the Catholic Church, Vatican officials reportedly went into crisis mode, announcing that the Pope’s thoughtful message of understanding was clearly taken out of context. “It is not the official stance of the Pope or the Catholic Church that all people of good will who seek the Lord, especially gay people, should be accepted by Christ,” a visibly nervous Vatican spokesman told reporters, adding that the Holy Father was clearly tired after his long trip to Brazil and never meant for his comments to sound caring or realistic. “Homosexuality is a disorder. And this in no way means that, going forward, the Catholic Church will be an open-minded, more sensible organization. I assure you we are just as prejudiced and backward today as we were yesterday. Thank you.” According to an anonymous source close to the Vatican, the Pope is currently being yelled at by Church officials, who are telling him, “You don’t just go off script like that. Who the fuck do you think you are?”

http://www.theonion.com/articles/vatican-quickly-performs-damage-control-on-popes-t,33292/

Vile...if true...but the pesentation of the statemets does come across as dubious in the least :fp:

kenny olav

subtext of he said: God will do the judging/punishing

MotoDC

Pjzepp67 wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Vatican Quickly Performs Damage Control On Pope’s Tolerant Remarks

VATICAN CITY—Following Pope Francis’ tolerant remarks Sunday about homosexuals and the Catholic Church, Vatican officials reportedly went into crisis mode, announcing that the Pope’s thoughtful message of understanding was clearly taken out of context. “It is not the official stance of the Pope or the Catholic Church that all people of good will who seek the Lord, especially gay people, should be accepted by Christ,” a visibly nervous Vatican spokesman told reporters, adding that the Holy Father was clearly tired after his long trip to Brazil and never meant for his comments to sound caring or realistic. “Homosexuality is a disorder. And this in no way means that, going forward, the Catholic Church will be an open-minded, more sensible organization. I assure you we are just as prejudiced and backward today as we were yesterday. Thank you.” According to an anonymous source close to the Vatican, the Pope is currently being yelled at by Church officials, who are telling him, “You don’t just go off script like that. Who the fuck do you think you are?”

http://www.theonion.com/articles/vatican-quickly-performs-damage-control-on-popes-t,33292/

Vile...if true...but the pesentation of the statemets does come across as dubious in the least :fp:

It's The Onion. Tongue-in-cheek and all that. Cheers.

fife

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

callen wrote:

The church knows it has to evolve to survive. Plus he knows 80 % of his priests are gay.

Well no.... about that many are pedophiles.

Not nearly as many as you might think are gay.

I don't want to jump on you but these are both assumptions. I am not even close to a fan of the church (any church/religion) but i also suspect that many of the people involved in the church are actually not the devil.

Pjzepp67

MotoDC wrote:

Pjzepp67 wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Vatican Quickly Performs Damage Control On Pope’s Tolerant Remarks

VATICAN CITY—Following Pope Francis’ tolerant remarks Sunday about homosexuals and the Catholic Church, Vatican officials reportedly went into crisis mode, announcing that the Pope’s thoughtful message of understanding was clearly taken out of context. “It is not the official stance of the Pope or the Catholic Church that all people of good will who seek the Lord, especially gay people, should be accepted by Christ,” a visibly nervous Vatican spokesman told reporters, adding that the Holy Father was clearly tired after his long trip to Brazil and never meant for his comments to sound caring or realistic. “Homosexuality is a disorder. And this in no way means that, going forward, the Catholic Church will be an open-minded, more sensible organization. I assure you we are just as prejudiced and backward today as we were yesterday. Thank you.” According to an anonymous source close to the Vatican, the Pope is currently being yelled at by Church officials, who are telling him, “You don’t just go off script like that. Who the fuck do you think you are?”

http://www.theonion.com/articles/vatican-quickly-performs-damage-control-on-popes-t,33292/

Vile...if true...but the pesentation of the statemets does come across as dubious in the least :fp:

It's The Onion. Tongue-in-cheek and all that. Cheers.

I think I'll start tuning into The Onion on a regular basis...the real news is gettin' far too boring...

moretonbayfig

Absolute gold! 'Who am I to judge the Pope, says gay man':

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/soci ... 3073077345

Jason P

Pjzepp67 wrote:

I think I'll start tuning into The Onion on a regular basis...the real news is gettin' far too boring...

Checkout their undercover reporting on Super Monkey Colliders ...

:shock:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/super-monkey-collider-loses-funding,1113/