Greater Boston area fans only

locked

Some folks don't understand all the bitching and moaning about one show in Worcester but I am firmly in this camp.

Eddie has said in many stage comments from1994 to the present what a huge fanbase the greater Boston area has been to this band. Not to mention its concentration of colleges.

I'm not suggesting the band "owes" us anything. They don't.

But no one in band management should be surprised when this Worcester date sells out in minutes, and long time "faithful" are forced to either but a single seat or face huge mark ups on stub hub (with single tickets starting at $220).

The demand is even more frantic since the band last played a single show in boston over three years ago.

Again, I want to stress.. The band owes us nothing.

And other regions (Seattle ) have just as much to gripe about..

I just question who maps out the tour schedule and sees the greater Boston area as a one show region.

This is the home of the three night "experiment"..

tinz.

There is a Hartford show within driving distance from Boston man c'mon.. Everyon needs to stop complaining

Wilds

Eddie says that shit in every city.


I think the logistics didn't work so well this time.


Phish is scheduled, there is a circus in town I think.


Just the fact that they are going to Worcester says something. And to space out over a week between Hartford and Worcester is strange.

I think there were some scheduling challenges.

Just my guess.

It_Wasnt_My_Surface

I think that Hartford plays a huge part in this. It's quite apparent now that Hartford is going to be a staple stop. This allows them to spread out New Enlgand a little wider. My wife loves the one show thing cause it means I'm only spending money on 2 shows (Worcester, Hartford), and not 3.

LloydXmas

Mansfield = 44 minutes away from Boston garden

Worcester = 47 minutes away from Boston garden


All this bitching for for 3 minutes

JimmyV

I think there is only a single show scheduled because they plan to play Fallon or Letterman the night before or after. Probably SNL too the night after Hartford.

Please prove me wrong and add a second night!

Poncier

Its apparent the promoter (Livaneation) most likely doesn't feel there's enough demand to justify a second Worcester show. I'm sure they can sell their allotment of fan club tix easily, and most 10clubbers going to the 15th would go to a show on the 16th, but the question is would they sell out (or close to it)? They won't sell a show if they expect 70% of tix to be sold, we're fanatics, but not sure the non fan club level PJ fans are fanatic enough to go twice.

CantKeepmedown

I don't think the OP is whining or bitching, just stating some facts. And as he said, there are other cities that could have the same gripe.

However, from pretty much 1994 to 2008, the played multiple nights when they came to Mass. I'm not sure why they stopped all of the sudden. But the Worcester show sold out pretty fast (2 seats left as of now, in the upper corners of the venue). My friend works for the guy that owns tickets unlimited here in Southern Maine. He said that the demand for this show is as big as he's ever seen. People were calling him weeks before the tix went on sale.

So I think the demand is there. For some reason, they are only keeping it to 1 show. And my checking account is thankful.

marc34

As a Bostonian I think this is more to do with the band now. I am guessing as they get older and family situations they don't want to be on the road as much. They probably sit down and say we are playing X amount of shows and thats it. I think the 72 show tours are a thing of the past for the band. Would I like multiple Mass shows like the old days, of course. But I can understand if they are tapering back on the number of overall shows

In regards to the "casual" fan- I don't think many would go to 2 nights of PJ. They are used to bands who tour with the same set list every night for 50 nights. I think if they knew PJ switches up the setlist every night and only plays a few duplicates on a two night stand they would think differently. Then again the casual fan also probably wants to here Alive, Jeremy, and the rest of Ten.

Vedder Vitamins

all good comments. my gut tells me they will add another show in/around here. always have minus 2008

mcriecken

I've lived in Boston for the past 3 years and I am stoked that they are playing in Worcester and Hartford (both easily within driving distance). I was looking forward to 2-3 shows IN Boston... but this is nearly as good. Although, I'm originally from Indiana, so maybe I'm just used to having to travel to see them.

WindowPaine

you do realize that bottom line is if the show sells out...THEY DO NOT CARE WHO IS IN THE BUILDING. sure more hardcore fans the better but these days with how much tickets cost and the quickness with which they sell out, either way most of the crowd will be big time fans no matter what.
come on think about. who knows why they aren't playing IN boston or why it's only one show. but as much as I have loved this band for 20+ years you really have to think about it. why are shows $75+? to make money, duh. so this whole 'caring about the fans', while they do care more than most rock bands, $$$ is still the bottom line. they could play 4 nights in every city and ticket prices could be $20 (yes they could be). but that wouldn't cover the lavish lifestyle these guys have risen to.

hypocrisy has always been my one issue with the band. eddie always said (or wanted to be) one thing but then their actions proved the opposite. all the way back to '91/92, 'I just want to play clubs' to 'ticket prices affordable to the fans, we'll fight ticket master'. well then just play clubs and you can definitely tour w/o ticketmaster. it's just that doing both of those things wouldn't have made the band into millionaires. I have no issue at all with that, just don't say one thing and do another. they always have.

I don't know why I went off into a rant, kind of off topic, I apologize. just having my say

mikerl

i feel the same as the OP.

i know its selfish, and its not a complaint... more of a reflection of the past, and sadness that an era around here has ended, to a degree.

whenever "pearl jam season" came around, my family and friends pretty much knew that they could find me in Mansfield for a few days.. then it went to the garden for a couple years.. which i dont like as much, whatever, back to Mansfield in 2008, and then the ONE show in 2010...

i remember when there was only one show in 2010 being very worried that it was the start of something new.. and i guess i was right. this worcester show will be amazing, cant wait.

the big deal at greatwoods (mansfield) for me, was the party. for the 1998-2004 and then 2008 shows, i arrived around noon for most of then, and made a day of it.. the tailgating there is the best in new england.

Vedder Vitamins

i remember those days myself at great woods. so much fun. not only pj, but petty, those wbcn concerts, etc..

havent been down there in quite some time but last time i was there werent they really against the tailgating thing?

pats games are the only thing that potentially rivals those days now....

mikerl

Vedder Vitamins wrote:

i remember those days myself at great woods. so much fun. not only pj, but petty, those wbcn concerts, etc..

havent been down there in quite some time but last time i was there werent they really against the tailgating thing?

pats games are the only thing that potentially rivals those days now....

the last time i was there was the second 2008 PJ show, and the tailgating was in full swing.. and at that time they had supposedly already "cracked down" on it. not sure if it has gotten any tighter, but at that time you could still have a blast as long as you weren't stupid about it. those days were epic.

PS, i also saw petty there a couple times.. also a great show/tailgate

Indi4ence

I believe neither shows hartford or worcester completely sold out. You can still get single tix online.

mikerl

worcester seems to be sold out...

i have checked a couple times and all day its been saying there were none avail.. then one came up behind the stage.. then it went away..

i know that its crazy for me to be checking, since i already have tickets.. just trying to monitor the second show sitch.

Rossum20

The tailgating scene I remember at Mansfield from when I was there in 2003 was one where people were attempting to tailgate, yet the cops were unbelievably aggressive and were writing all sorts of tickets. I remember pounding the few beers we had inside our car and then heading in to avoid it.

Now Hartford in 2008, that was a different story! My god, that parking lot scene before the show was ridiculous!


Maybe Mansfield has changed with how it handles tailgating since I went, that could certainly be.

mikerl

yea, your right about the cops at mansfield..

it always seemed strange to me that the cops were everywhere, and constantly riding by us (at every show) but that they never stopped.. we were drinking and smoking as much as anyone! but i would bring my small ford ranger pickup, and a small charcoal grill and be out there all damn day... great memories.

youngster

For Mansfield, as long as your not acting like a complete dick with a beer in your hand, the cops dont seem to bother you. Then again, I was in the VIP section. They might crack down more in the free lot. I would love to be seeing Pearl Jam in Mansfield, I think it is the best venue to see any band. But I am happy they are making a few stops in New England. No bitching here.

PillowPants

mansfield in 08 was a nightmare - night 1 - drinking was not allowed in the free lots no matter what the age and cops were being quite stern about it ... no one around wanted to test them... we pretty much stood there baffled

i actually asked a cop why the sudden change in policy.... he told me there were 15 rapes at the dave matthews concert

which is bullshit... 15 rapes wouldn't make the local news??

it was at that point i realized there was no reason for it and they were assuming things about PJ fans... sadly

PillowPants

as for this thread

my guess is also along the lines of a sellout... they don't feel they can do it... I think they're wrong....

but I also seem to remember the fleet center in 2010 having some space in the balcony??



it sucks ... that much is true

mikerl

fleet in 06 or in 2010? no show in 2008, both at mansfield.

i went to one of the 06 shows, and the 2010 show.. both seemed pretty packed to me... but who knows.

i think they are wrong too. pearl jam has sold 2 and 3 nights easily in this area, even well past their height of fame.

PillowPants

mikerl wrote:

fleet in 06 or in 2010? no show in 2008, both at mansfield.

i went to one of the 06 shows, and the 2010 show.. both seemed pretty packed to me... but who knows.

i think they are wrong too. pearl jam has sold 2 and 3 nights easily in this area, even well past their height of fame.

good catch... it's been so long i added 2 years

i meant 2010

morgie2

If NY gets 2, and Philly gets 2, Boston area (Mansfield, Worcester, or Mansfield) should. We'd sell it out, there is time in the schedule, so please do it. I am very happy going to both Worcester & Hartford, so there is no "anger", that would be silly. Just wondering why 2 shows is no longer a given? Perhaps we will get another.

jethrojam420

PillowPants wrote:

mansfield in 08 was a nightmare - night 1 - drinking was not allowed in the free lots no matter what the age and cops were being quite stern about it ... no one around wanted to test them... we pretty much stood there baffled

i actually asked a cop why the sudden change in policy.... he told me there were 15 rapes at the dave matthews concert

which is bullshit... 15 rapes wouldn't make the local news??

it was at that point i realized there was no reason for it and they were assuming things about PJ fans... sadly

i don't remember exactly what happened but there was a wave of problems in the mid 2000's leading up to the drinking issues. I really don't drink anymore nowadays but I used to go to the pregames of many concerts every year at great woods and it was never a problem until about 2008 - in fact I think Pearl Jam was the first crack down.

that being said, there was never 15 rapes at any concert. That news would be worldwide. I think the average is 1 per year (1 too many) but certainly not 15.

jethrojam420

morgie2 wrote:

If NY gets 2, and Philly gets 2, Boston area (Mansfield, Worcester, or Mansfield) should. We'd sell it out, there is time in the schedule, so please do it. I am very happy going to both Worcester & Hartford, so there is no "anger", that would be silly. Just wondering why 2 shows is no longer a given? Perhaps we will get another.

I am under the impression that it has more to do with the age/family stuff/etc of the band to not want the gruel of a world tour They don't need the money so they are just trying their best to be semi retired yet making some music/appearances as they deem necessary

Fastrichie

There were still tix available Sunday. Actually you can still buy right now Monday at 5:14. Not sold out yet.

jethrojam420

to DCU? sold out as of 4pm on my computer...

Poncier

PillowPants wrote:

mansfield in 08 was a nightmare - night 1 - drinking was not allowed in the free lots no matter what the age and cops were being quite stern about it ... no one around wanted to test them... we pretty much stood there baffled

i actually asked a cop why the sudden change in policy.... he told me there were 15 rapes at the dave matthews concert

which is bullshit... 15 rapes wouldn't make the local news??

it was at that point i realized there was no reason for it and they were assuming things about PJ fans... sadly

Actually I remember that there was a lot of trouble (underage drinking/arrests, no rapes) the week prior at a Tom Petty show in 2008 at Great Woods, that made the news and there was a big crackdown put into effect, just happened to coincide with PJ playing there a few days later.

JimmyV

I don't think it has anything to do with a sellout. The logic that because a handful of garbage tickets don't sell for one show means that the majority of tickets won't sell for a second show to me doesn't make much sense. I still bet we will see a TV appearance on Monday or Wednesday and that is why only one show has been scheduled. They wanted to play two in 2010 but could not book the garden because of NBA and NHL holds.