you are thinking of leaving 10c becuase you didnt score tm tkts during the public onsale? sorry, but thats not 10c's fault. Hey I hate the lottery too, but im under no misconceptions in thinking im guarenteed tkts through tenc. in fact they make it perfectly clear that tkts arent guarenteed. I admit i would be super bummed too
it's largely due to eddie that i liked to jump off of things as a child...
Foo Fighters (which I think are similiar in popularity) will tour for two years straight and they can still sell out show everywhere. How bad would there ticket demand be if they only did a 30 show tour every 3 or 4 years.... ouch!
Just from judging the crowd in Atlanta last year the Foo Fighters might not have as crazy fans. When the Foo Fighters played Friday night it was packed you could walk around and enjoy the park. When PJ played Saturday night it was packed nut's to butt's.
Not saying the Foo Fighters are not as great because they are. But maybe your right they tour so much that their fans don't have to rush to a city here or there just to get to see them once every two years.
What I don't get is why not a big tour PJ you're putting out a new album and yet you're not even touring 50% of the country.
Most of the problems are outside the 10c's control. Most venues of Arena/Stadium size have exclusive contracts with ticketing agencies (ticketmaster, livenation, or maybe regional one). Those ticket agencies have caps on how many tickets they will allow fan clubs to have. TM put a 10% of the venue rule in about 10 years ago. 10c used to get flexibility, but not so much anymore.
So a legit question: What does the venue/TM care if say TC had 100% of all the tickets? They'd still sell out the venues, right?
Because TM/Live Nation/Stub Hub/Scalpers are all in bed together. Live Nation makes tons of money on the resale of tickets.
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Maybe I haven't been a member the longest, maybe I haven't been listening to the band the longest, maybe I haven't been to the most shows, maybe I haven't been a part of the best shows, maybe I don't have the lowest number, maybe I wanted to go to several shows this tour, maybe I long for the PJ concert experience.......
None of it matters because I got a hot unlubrictaed shaft straight up my bum for all shows I tried for. Then I had to sit here like an ass trying to buy tickets on a shithole third party vendors' (which, the band themselves decided to bring to court at one point) website in hopes I would score something.
I got dicked, as I am sure many of you also did.
I'm not livid. I'm not tossing out colorful language or beating me computer into submission. I'm not ready to sell my first born or spare kidney to the highest bidder so I can get some decent seats on Stubhub.
I am disappointed.
I am feeling a bit betrayed by what is referred to as a fan club.
We support you and you failed us.
I am ashamed of you now.
Regretfully Yours,
10c Member xxxxxxx Whom Will (possibly) NOT be Renewing
Why is the band not selling the tix?
I think a fanclub must give the members the chance to buy tix.PJ should change the selling policy.Why are they selling everytime pairs of tix?
I think I will not renew my membership!!
I didn`t get fanclub - tickets the last years when I would go to the shows.
I sent 10C mails this week that comcasttix and other compannies didn`t work for people outside the US.
I haven`t got any answer.
I asked them why can I buy tix from scalpers when 10C only sold tix-No answer.
10C is a joke!
It´s the worst fanclub that I know!
i need a triple espresso after the last comment of our non american friend here..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Why is the band not selling the tix?
I think a fanclub must give the members the chance to buy tix.PJ should change the selling policy.Why are they selling everytime pairs of tix?
I think I will not renew my membership!!
I didn`t get fanclub - tickets the last years when I would go to the shows.
I sent 10C mails this week that comcasttix and other compannies didn`t work for people outside the US.
I haven`t got any answer.
I asked them why can I buy tix from scalpers when 10C only sold tix-No answer.
10C is a joke!
It´s the worst fanclub that I know!
10c can only get so many tickets from the vendors. In North America ticket agencies have monopolies to distribute tickets for all the large venues (ticketmaster and livenation being the larger ones). There really aren't any other venues to play. Ticket Agencies like TM will only allocate so many tickets to fan clubs.
10c can't walk up to ticketmaster and say give me all the tickets. 10c/PJ don't own the venues and they don't control the ticketing for those venues. No artists do. The only diff between PJ and other fan clubs is probably the size.
I don't understand why people think 10c/PJ has this magical leverage that then can access all the tickets in a venue. It's pretty obvious to me that little to no leverage.
Most of the problems are outside the 10c's control. Most venues of Arena/Stadium size have exclusive contracts with ticketing agencies (ticketmaster, livenation, or maybe regional one). Those ticket agencies have caps on how many tickets they will allow fan clubs to have. TM put a 10% of the venue rule in about 10 years ago. 10c used to get flexibility, but not so much anymore.
TM has all the power. You don't like it? play somewhere else? Except there is no where else. PJ barely pulled off that tour in '95 (and it fell apart) using non TM venues. I imagine a number of those venues now have monopoly run box offices.
For me it comes down to PJ not playing enough shows. There's considerable demand to see them live and the tours aren't big enough to alleviate it. You've got fans travelling from everywhere to see the small tours they do.
Foo Fighters (which I think are similiar in popularity) will tour for two years straight and they can still sell out show everywhere. How bad would there ticket demand be if they only did a 30 show tour every 3 or 4 years.... ouch!
I don't think you can really call what the Foos did a two year tour. There was a US tour in 2011, but the rest was either warm up club shows in LA before the record came out, or festival appearances. Europe didn't get a proper tour last time. As far as general public demand goes, they might even be more popular than PJ, cause they've been in the public eye more over the last years.
I just like the comparison of the two because FF fans are always bitching that there's no fanclub...saying how bad they want something like 10c. And honestly, I agree. As much as I love both bands, I think they cater for different crowds nowadays, and they know - just look at the issue of setlists. Despite tickets and all, I think there being a fanclub provides for a much more closely knit community, which I really like. And it makes it highly unlikely that front row next to me are two girls with their backs turned to the band, taking selfies with their bunny-eared iphone.
When I'm done... no one will know. I will just be gone.
But, from where I am today... the Fan Club will probably disappear before I leave it.
...
Good luck, to y'all.
i need a triple espresso after the last comment of our non american friend here..
make that 2... to go please
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Although I am not as upset as this member, I did feel the same dissapointment. I took off work yesterday to try and get Pearl Jam tickets for the Pittsburgh show when they went on sale at 10:00 am. The only results I got from the very beginning looking for two tickets "Best Available" was behind the stage in the 200 level. After rejecting these tickets several times, ticketmaster completely locked me out of their site. Just seemed odd that starting the same time tickets went on sale, the only results period were behind the stage. Although I really want to go, I'm not going to pay double or more for the original ticket price, got higher priorities in life.
they could play more shows to ease the demand or play the same setlist with a bigger light show/pyrotechnics then there would be no need to go to more than 1 show
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they could play more shows to ease the demand or play the same setlist with a bigger light show/pyrotechnics then there would be no need to go to more than 1 show
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"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I don't give a flying f**k! ... if you will remain a 10c member or not. This band is WAY to good for you! WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?
I can't wait for negative people like you to quit ... and leave us alone. I also can't wait for your single/and or album to be released ... so we can all bow down to your greatness.
"Had my eyes peeled both wide open, and I got a glimpse...of my innocense, got back my inner sence, baby got it...still got it"
None of it matters because I got a hot unlubrictaed shaft straight up my bum
Did you go to the doctors for that?
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Although I am not as upset as this member, I did feel the same dissapointment. I took off work yesterday to try and get Pearl Jam tickets for the Pittsburgh show when they went on sale at 10:00 am. The only results I got from the very beginning looking for two tickets "Best Available" was behind the stage in the 200 level. After rejecting these tickets several times, ticketmaster completely locked me out of their site. Just seemed odd that starting the same time tickets went on sale, the only results period were behind the stage. Although I really want to go, I'm not going to pay double or more for the original ticket price, got higher priorities in life.
I had the same experience with Pittsburgh tix yesterday. I tried at 10, only got offered in the 200's behind the stage. After I threw these back several times, TM locked me out of their site too. They finally let me back on late this morning,but by now, it's too late to score any decent tix. :(
What is wrong with the new system is that people who just joined are able to get GA tix when getting good seats up front was the ENTIRE reason of being a long time member was about. When I get locked out of getting ANY tickets, yet a friend who just signed up 2 weeks ago gets GA to not one, but two shows? Yeah, this relationship With the club is on shaky ground. If they wanted to be fair, give everyone ONE win. No more, no less.
And TM and their sister scalping companies can go suck it. :twisted:
My 10C number is 492,XXX.....I signed up Christmas Eve of last year....I got shut out of 10c tix for this tour....7 months of being a loyal 10clubber down the drain...i am owed good tickets in exchange for my loyalty..I'm not gonna renew at the end of this year.....
Really? Get a grip....just because you're part of a bands fan club doesn't entitle you to shit...unfuckingbelievable....some ppl on here sound like whiny little bitches....anyways, there's a lot of cool ppl on here that actually have a grip on reality and hope to meet them on 10/18 and 10/19....see ya in Brooklyn!
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Please know that you are not alone in your major disappointment. Many others did not get 10C tickets, including myself. Tons of similar complaints have been posted here.
This is the first time that I have failed to get 10C tix and I have been a member since '99.
Do I like the lottery system? No. It fails to reward long-term loyalty to the fan club and the extra money spent to retain a lower #. Seniority counts only if you're lucky enough to be randomly chosen.
But remember that obtaining PJ 10C tix is a privilege extended to us, not a right.
I've been so spoiled and was convinced I would get them. Had to choke it down.
I was very upset when I was unable to get tix. But after the initial shock, I had to accept it....and start working on Plan B, C, D....all the way to TM :fp:
Was very lucky to score tix and will be happy to be in the house!
We'll be rocking out whether in row A or ZZZZ
Love of PJ's music and message shouldn't be dictated by the seats you may or may not get.
Please know that you are not alone in your major disappointment. Many others did not get 10C tickets, including myself. Tons of similar complaints have been posted here.
This is the first time that I have failed to get 10C tix and I have been a member since '99.
Do I like the lottery system? No. It fails to reward long-term loyalty to the fan club and the extra money spent to retain a lower #. Seniority counts only if you're lucky enough to be randomly chosen.
But remember that obtaining PJ 10C tix is a privilege extended to us, not a right.
I've been so spoiled and was convinced I would get them. Had to choke it down.
I was very upset when I was unable to get tix. But after the initial shock, I had to accept it....and start working on Plan B, C, D....all the way to TM :fp:
Was very lucky to score tix and will be happy to be in the house!
We'll be rocking out whether in row A or ZZZZ
Love of PJ's music and message shouldn't be dictated by the seats you may or may not get.
thank God some people even they dont like something put logic and realise how things are..
and the last part you wrote is the biggest truth ever...
much respect to you..it would be an honor to shake your hand one day
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
He's expressing a negative feeling towards a company and you're insulting him as a person.
I'd feel shitty if I missed on tickets too.
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I'm with ya OP on this. Disappointment sucks. Betrayal sucks. We have been faithful fans 20+ years
it's not easy to take what has happened to us either. But life goes on and fulfillment and happiness is found elsewhere. We got some great travel planned to see other favorite artists. Making new friends, meeting new fans. Pearl Jam can be replaced when your heart is broken and that is exactly what happened to us.
That what you fear the most could meet you halfway
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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Just from judging the crowd in Atlanta last year the Foo Fighters might not have as crazy fans. When the Foo Fighters played Friday night it was packed you could walk around and enjoy the park. When PJ played Saturday night it was packed nut's to butt's.
Not saying the Foo Fighters are not as great because they are. But maybe your right they tour so much that their fans don't have to rush to a city here or there just to get to see them once every two years.
What I don't get is why not a big tour PJ you're putting out a new album and yet you're not even touring 50% of the country.
Because TM/Live Nation/Stub Hub/Scalpers are all in bed together. Live Nation makes tons of money on the resale of tickets.
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I think a fanclub must give the members the chance to buy tix.PJ should change the selling policy.Why are they selling everytime pairs of tix?
I think I will not renew my membership!!
I didn`t get fanclub - tickets the last years when I would go to the shows.
I sent 10C mails this week that comcasttix and other compannies didn`t work for people outside the US.
I haven`t got any answer.
I asked them why can I buy tix from scalpers when 10C only sold tix-No answer.
10C is a joke!
It´s the worst fanclub that I know!
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
10c can only get so many tickets from the vendors. In North America ticket agencies have monopolies to distribute tickets for all the large venues (ticketmaster and livenation being the larger ones). There really aren't any other venues to play. Ticket Agencies like TM will only allocate so many tickets to fan clubs.
10c can't walk up to ticketmaster and say give me all the tickets. 10c/PJ don't own the venues and they don't control the ticketing for those venues. No artists do. The only diff between PJ and other fan clubs is probably the size.
I don't understand why people think 10c/PJ has this magical leverage that then can access all the tickets in a venue. It's pretty obvious to me that little to no leverage.
I don't think you can really call what the Foos did a two year tour. There was a US tour in 2011, but the rest was either warm up club shows in LA before the record came out, or festival appearances. Europe didn't get a proper tour last time. As far as general public demand goes, they might even be more popular than PJ, cause they've been in the public eye more over the last years.
I just like the comparison of the two because FF fans are always bitching that there's no fanclub...saying how bad they want something like 10c.
What he said
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Seattle
Longtime ghost
make that 2... to go please
Werchter/A'dam1/Werchter/EVA'dam2/EVLondon1/Portland/Spokane/Calgary/Vancouver/
Seattle
Longtime ghost
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I don't give a flying f**k! ... if you will remain a 10c member or not. This band is WAY to good for you! WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?
I can't wait for negative people like you to quit ... and leave us alone. I also can't wait for your single/and or album to be released ... so we can all bow down to your greatness.
Did you go to the doctors for that?
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I had the same experience with Pittsburgh tix yesterday. I tried at 10, only got offered in the 200's behind the stage. After I threw these back several times, TM locked me out of their site too. They finally let me back on late this morning,but by now, it's too late to score any decent tix. :(
And TM and their sister scalping companies can go suck it. :twisted:
I didn't want to read all the pages and kind of want to know the answer.
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Really? Get a grip....just because you're part of a bands fan club doesn't entitle you to shit...unfuckingbelievable....some ppl on here sound like whiny little bitches....anyways, there's a lot of cool ppl on here that actually have a grip on reality and hope to meet them on 10/18 and 10/19....see ya in Brooklyn!
This is the first time that I have failed to get 10C tix and I have been a member since '99.
Do I like the lottery system? No. It fails to reward long-term loyalty to the fan club and the extra money spent to retain a lower #. Seniority counts only if you're lucky enough to be randomly chosen.
But remember that obtaining PJ 10C tix is a privilege extended to us, not a right.
I've been so spoiled and was convinced I would get them. Had to choke it down.
I was very upset when I was unable to get tix. But after the initial shock, I had to accept it....and start working on Plan B, C, D....all the way to TM :fp:
Was very lucky to score tix and will be happy to be in the house!
We'll be rocking out whether in row A or ZZZZ
Love of PJ's music and message shouldn't be dictated by the seats you may or may not get.
and the last part you wrote is the biggest truth ever...
much respect to you..it would be an honor to shake your hand one day
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
If the OP has a gripe... let him vent.
No need to jump all over him.
He's expressing a negative feeling towards a company and you're insulting him as a person.
I'd feel shitty if I missed on tickets too.
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it's not easy to take what has happened to us either. But life goes on and fulfillment and happiness is found elsewhere. We got some great travel planned to see other favorite artists. Making new friends, meeting new fans. Pearl Jam can be replaced when your heart is broken and that is exactly what happened to us.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
This person has a right to express his disappointment without being slammed by fellow fans.