part of being a fan is constructive criticism. there's so much i love about this band and i'm fairly vocal about it(binaural tour is the greatest thing that ever happened to recorded music) but, if there's something i don't like (future days and the merch situation at wrigley), i should be allowed to speak my mind without an internet tongue lashing from noobs like you.
Exactly. While there is a lot of negativity around here, there is also respectful criticism. There are way too many people that jump all over anyone who would dare say something negative about PJ or 10c. People are going to have many different opinions about many different things....it's crazy that some people just can't accept that.
true..i think especially the thread of the old time member and his seat location at Wrigley was so fuckin great post!and has a good conversation,except an idiot who try trolling..
i believe evereyone posting respectful always get noticed and a good needed conversation happpens..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I wish we would have discussed this face to face! Ole is a good song.. if you like that kind of stuff..
me, I like that kind of stuff..
it isn't like the band can do no wrong to me, but Ole isnt wrong if you like that kind of stuff..
my personal least fav.. Last kiss
one they wrote.. supersonic
I wish we'd talked about it too! I am right there with you on last kiss and supersonic... I just think ole is even worse.
I hope MYM can get you in touch with the little punk rocker in your heart.. The memories of your first babysitter listening to Dead Milkmen and Black Flag.. I think I dig the punky shit.. punky brewster!!
I love punk! I think MYM is fantastic and my second favorite band is Fugazi. It's not the style - just that individual song. For the most part I really love the punk-influenced PJ. Can't win em all I guess! Right, meat head? :fp: I did not get that comment at all, did you?
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Have to admit it took me hearing MYM live to really dig it. It sounded good live.
i agree
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
It's funny no one likes the ballads, last few records, punk songs(which aren't punk songs really) etc
Just the generic merch that is uninspired crap for the most part literally risk their health to wait in a line for hours in excessive heat. I don't get it
I love them all.. all of us here on this crazy ride.. I got time for everybody..
No meat head marries Leezestar. :P
Anyway, back to the topic, I don't mind people voicing opinions about songs they don't care for and stuff, or legitimate probs they have with processes in 10c... It's the whining that becomes hard to take, or the disdain some people express, as though they're MAD when they don't like something. It's the anger that's tough to take, not the opinions behind it.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
, I don't mind people voicing opinions about songs they don't care for and stuff, or legitimate probs they have with processes in 10c... It's the whining that becomes hard to take, or the disdain some people express, as though they're MAD when they don't like something. It's the anger that's tough to take, not the opinions behind it.
oh yeah
hello there.. :wave:
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
It's funny no one likes the ballads, last few records, punk songs(which aren't punk songs really) etc
Just the generic merch that is uninspired crap for the most part literally risk their health to wait in a line for hours in excessive heat. I don't get it
Way to show em
Well, there are all minds of people with all kinds of tastes. Many love ballads, many love punk inspired (you're right - punk-inspired, not punk.... And actually MYM sounds like rock to me), some like neither I guess.... But I think that most people are pretty open minded and love all the different styles PJ brings. I certainly do. There are just a few songs that I don't like, and that is so okay with me. Doesn't matter. I fucking love Pearl Jam and they do not make me angry, ever! Not even during the grunge era.... I was not full of angst as a teen.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
, I don't mind people voicing opinions about songs they don't care for and stuff, or legitimate probs they have with processes in 10c... It's the whining that becomes hard to take, or the disdain some people express, as though they're MAD when they don't like something. It's the anger that's tough to take, not the opinions behind it.
oh yeah
hello there.. :wave:
:wave: :wave: Hello my friend!
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
, I don't mind people voicing opinions about songs they don't care for and stuff, or legitimate probs they have with processes in 10c... It's the whining that becomes hard to take, or the disdain some people express, as though they're MAD when they don't like something. It's the anger that's tough to take, not the opinions behind it.
oh yeah
hello there.. :wave:
:wave: :wave: Hello my friend!
i had the most relaxed time of my whole trip with you!!lets do that soon!!!
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I love them all.. all of us here on this crazy ride.. I got time for everybody..
No meat head marries Leezestar. :P
Anyway, back to the topic, I don't mind people voicing opinions about songs they don't care for and stuff, or legitimate probs they have with processes in 10c... It's the whining that becomes hard to take, or the disdain some people express, as though they're MAD when they don't like something. It's the anger that's tough to take, not the opinions behind it.
I hear ya.. and true, Leeze is too good to marry some meat head...
the double standard is what kills me..
cat writes a thread about being positive..
calls somebody (i dont think it was me) meat head..
completely ruins all of the good shit in the original post..
over and over again.. and over again..
"i dont mean to bitch, but"
"i am a loyal fan, but"
"i love everyone, but"
pee-wee said it best..
"everyone has a big but"
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None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe that they are free.
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It's funny no one likes the ballads, last few records, punk songs(which aren't punk songs really) etc
Just the generic merch that is uninspired crap for the most part literally risk their health to wait in a line for hours in excessive heat. I don't get it
Way to show em
I think this merchandise was a little different. I know myself, I just wanted a shirt and poster cause its Wrigley Field. Coming from Cleveland it was a big deal. Wrigley, Fenway, Old yankee stadium, there kinda like the roman coliseum. It was a big deal for me. And I'm still posterless
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It's funny no one likes the ballads, last few records, punk songs(which aren't punk songs really) etc
Just the generic merch that is uninspired crap for the most part literally risk their health to wait in a line for hours in excessive heat. I don't get it
Way to show em
I think this merchandise was a little different. I know myself, I just wanted a shirt and poster cause its Wrigley Field. Coming from Cleveland it was a big deal. Wrigley, Fenway, Old yankee stadium, there kinda like the roman coliseum. It was a big deal for me. And I'm still posterless
It's funny no one likes the ballads, last few records, punk songs(which aren't punk songs really) etc
Just the generic merch that is uninspired crap for the most part literally risk their health to wait in a line for hours in excessive heat. I don't get it
Way to show em
I think this merchandise was a little different. I know myself, I just wanted a shirt and poster cause its Wrigley Field. Coming from Cleveland it was a big deal. Wrigley, Fenway, Old yankee stadium, there kinda like the roman coliseum. It was a big deal for me. And I'm still posterless
Poster is art.... T shirts are generic
I could have put Wrigley on a used rubber.....
I hear that.. I think i saw that shit on ebay.. $18.95.. hmmmm..
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe that they are free.
Abrn Hlls '98 - Clarkston 2 '03 - Grd Rpds '06 - Abrn Hlls '06 - Clvd '10 - PJ20 - Berlin 1+2 '12 - Wrigley '13 - Pitt '13- buff '13- Philly 1+2 '13 - Seattle '13
It's funny no one likes the ballads, last few records, punk songs(which aren't punk songs really) etc
Just the generic merch that is uninspired crap for the most part literally risk their health to wait in a line for hours in excessive heat. I don't get it
Way to show em
I think this merchandise was a little different. I know myself, I just wanted a shirt and poster cause its Wrigley Field. Coming from Cleveland it was a big deal. Wrigley, Fenway, Old yankee stadium, there kinda like the roman coliseum. It was a big deal for me. And I'm still posterless
Poster is art.... T shirts are generic
I could have put Wrigley on a used rubber.....
I don't think the word Wrigley would have fit on your used rubber
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Chicago EV 08 11 13
Cleveland 94 98 03 06 10
Cincinatti 06
Columbus 00 03 10
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Grand Rapids 06
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Jacksonville EV 12
Moline 14
Montreal 05
Milwaukee EV 08
Nobelsville 03
Ottawa 05
Pittsburgh 06 13
Toledo 96 04
A) 10c will prop sell some stuff I'd rather pay a lil extra than wait hours for something that will fade, shrink, rip
C) I usually buy some merch, nothing was "must have"
Posters I'm 99% sure 10c will carry later and at worst secondary market will drop
4 posters..... Like thousands of each in circulation
A) 10c will prop sell some stuff I'd rather pay a lil extra than wait hours for something that will fade, shrink, rip
C) I usually buy some merch, nothing was "must have"
Posters I'm 99% sure 10c will carry later and at worst secondary market will drop
4 posters..... Like thousands of each in circulation
No need to panic and overspend
I hope....I have small kids I can't justify paying crazy money. But I sure want the cracker jack poster
Brooklyn 1,2 13
Chicago EV 08 11 13
Cleveland 94 98 03 06 10
Cincinatti 06
Columbus 00 03 10
Detroit 06 EV 11 14
Grand Rapids 06
Hershey 03
Jacksonville EV 12
Moline 14
Montreal 05
Milwaukee EV 08
Nobelsville 03
Ottawa 05
Pittsburgh 06 13
Toledo 96 04
I love them all.. all of us here on this crazy ride.. I got time for everybody..
No meat head marries Leezestar. :P
Anyway, back to the topic, I don't mind people voicing opinions about songs they don't care for and stuff, or legitimate probs they have with processes in 10c... It's the whining that becomes hard to take, or the disdain some people express, as though they're MAD when they don't like something. It's the anger that's tough to take, not the opinions behind it.
I hear ya.. and true, Leeze is too good to marry some meat head...
the double standard is what kills me..
cat writes a thread about being positive..
calls somebody (i dont think it was me) meat head..
completely ruins all of the good shit in the original post..
over and over again.. and over again..
"i dont mean to bitch, but"
"i am a loyal fan, but"
"i love everyone, but"
pee-wee said it best..
"everyone has a big but"
Right on! Ha ha!
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
This is a forum to discuss Pearl Jam, the good and the bad. (Although mostly it's a forum to discuss tickets at the minute )
They've been my favourite band for 15 years, but I haven't liked every single song they've ever released and I'm not going to pretend to, or be made to feel like I'm a 'negative' fan.
If Lightening Bolt isn't up to much, I'm going to say so.
I'm also a massive Dylan fan, yet he's released some right guff in his career.
Yeah, I'mokay with one terrible song. If I didn't really hate at least one I'd be worried that I'm overly biased.... Like I would love a song about tying a shoe played on a tin can and sung only in falsetto. That wouldn't be healthy. This way I know I'm basically okay. So hating ole = sanity. Big positive!
I wish we would have discussed this face to face! Ole is a good song.. if you like that kind of stuff..
me, I like that kind of stuff..
it isn't like the band can do no wrong to me, but Ole isnt wrong if you like that kind of stuff..
my personal least fav.. Last kiss
one they wrote.. supersonic
I wish we'd talked about it too! I am right there with you on last kiss and supersonic... I just think ole is even worse. Although I do like that kind of song generally.... I think it's him yelling Ole!! Ole!! Seems really stupid to me. But to each their own!
I think the trash compacter at wrigley was a good way to spend a much needed break.. great people near there..
Was it the one on the detention level?
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I'm sorry were you talking to me? I wasn't paying attention since I was riding my unicorn and going rainbow jumping in Candyland on the way to Fantasy Island. Perhaps you caught some of my positive vibe.
Oh I see you there now in that place called a "forum". You know the one where divergent people get together to have conversations. Strange place though....some people don't agree with me. Any way, I've got a meeting with Puff the Magic Dragons so I"ll be moving on.
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I'm sorry were you talking to me? I wasn't paying attention since I was riding my unicorn and going rainbow jumping in Candyland on the way to Fantasy Island. Perhaps you caught some of my positive vibe.
Oh I see you there now in that place called a "forum". You know the one where divergent people get together to have conversations. Strange place though....some people don't agree with me. Any way, I've got a meeting with Puff the Magic Dragons so I"ll be moving on.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I'm so sick of all this complaining about negativity on the porch that im going to do my part in trying to squash it. Here on out im gonna be straight up 100% positive, my positivity chip has been engaged, its the dawning of a beautiful new day!
Some people act like little sissy babies when it comes to voicing their opinions on something but I think some concerns are very valid. How else is the 10c supposed to make improvements without hearing members grievances?
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i believe evereyone posting respectful always get noticed and a good needed conversation happpens..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I love them all..
Abrn Hlls '98 - Clarkston 2 '03 - Grd Rpds '06 - Abrn Hlls '06 - Clvd '10 - PJ20 - Berlin 1+2 '12 - Wrigley '13 - Pitt '13- buff '13- Philly 1+2 '13 - Seattle '13
Chicago EV 08 11 13
Cleveland 94 98 03 06 10
Cincinatti 06
Columbus 00 03 10
Detroit 06 EV 11 14
Grand Rapids 06
Hershey 03
Jacksonville EV 12
Moline 14
Montreal 05
Milwaukee EV 08
Nobelsville 03
Ottawa 05
Pittsburgh 06 13
Toledo 96 04
WRIGLEY 13
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Just the generic merch that is uninspired crap for the most part
Way to show em
Anyway, back to the topic, I don't mind people voicing opinions about songs they don't care for and stuff, or legitimate probs they have with processes in 10c... It's the whining that becomes hard to take, or the disdain some people express, as though they're MAD when they don't like something. It's the anger that's tough to take, not the opinions behind it.
hello there.. :wave:
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
the double standard is what kills me..
cat writes a thread about being positive..
calls somebody (i dont think it was me) meat head..
completely ruins all of the good shit in the original post..
over and over again.. and over again..
"i dont mean to bitch, but"
"i am a loyal fan, but"
"i love everyone, but"
pee-wee said it best..
"everyone has a big but"
Abrn Hlls '98 - Clarkston 2 '03 - Grd Rpds '06 - Abrn Hlls '06 - Clvd '10 - PJ20 - Berlin 1+2 '12 - Wrigley '13 - Pitt '13- buff '13- Philly 1+2 '13 - Seattle '13
Chicago EV 08 11 13
Cleveland 94 98 03 06 10
Cincinatti 06
Columbus 00 03 10
Detroit 06 EV 11 14
Grand Rapids 06
Hershey 03
Jacksonville EV 12
Moline 14
Montreal 05
Milwaukee EV 08
Nobelsville 03
Ottawa 05
Pittsburgh 06 13
Toledo 96 04
WRIGLEY 13
but shit, this is a discussion board of a rock band. get a grip.
Poster is art.... T shirts are generic
I could have put Wrigley on a used rubber.....
Abrn Hlls '98 - Clarkston 2 '03 - Grd Rpds '06 - Abrn Hlls '06 - Clvd '10 - PJ20 - Berlin 1+2 '12 - Wrigley '13 - Pitt '13- buff '13- Philly 1+2 '13 - Seattle '13
I don't think the word Wrigley would have fit on your used rubber
Chicago EV 08 11 13
Cleveland 94 98 03 06 10
Cincinatti 06
Columbus 00 03 10
Detroit 06 EV 11 14
Grand Rapids 06
Hershey 03
Jacksonville EV 12
Moline 14
Montreal 05
Milwaukee EV 08
Nobelsville 03
Ottawa 05
Pittsburgh 06 13
Toledo 96 04
WRIGLEY 13
If it makes people happy that's cool
A) 10c will prop sell some stuff
C) I usually buy some merch, nothing was "must have"
Posters I'm 99% sure 10c will carry later and at worst secondary market will drop
4 posters..... Like thousands of each in circulation
No need to panic and overspend
Chicago EV 08 11 13
Cleveland 94 98 03 06 10
Cincinatti 06
Columbus 00 03 10
Detroit 06 EV 11 14
Grand Rapids 06
Hershey 03
Jacksonville EV 12
Moline 14
Montreal 05
Milwaukee EV 08
Nobelsville 03
Ottawa 05
Pittsburgh 06 13
Toledo 96 04
WRIGLEY 13
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This is a forum to discuss Pearl Jam, the good and the bad. (Although mostly it's a forum to discuss tickets at the minute
They've been my favourite band for 15 years, but I haven't liked every single song they've ever released and I'm not going to pretend to, or be made to feel like I'm a 'negative' fan.
If Lightening Bolt isn't up to much, I'm going to say so.
I'm also a massive Dylan fan, yet he's released some right guff in his career.
Was it the one on the detention level?
Oh I see you there now in that place called a "forum". You know the one where divergent people get together to have conversations. Strange place though....some people don't agree with me. Any way, I've got a meeting with Puff the Magic Dragons so I"ll be moving on.
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