Cops: they're not all bad.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

dignin wrote:

Imagine you in this situation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7zYKgDTuDA

Brutal.

I don't know where Dekalb County is, but I can tell you that here in the interior of BC... our RCMP officers are great. It's likely because of the fact that our population of is peaceful- with rare incidents generating tension or requiring excessive force.

But that video is awful. I can't say enough how poorly those officers acted and how I might be distrustful of them given incidents such as these. The one cop was a sergeant too. Leadership. Yikes.

dignin

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

dignin wrote:

Imagine you in this situation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7zYKgDTuDA

Brutal.

I don't know where Dekalb County is, but I can tell you that here in the interior of BC... our RCMP officers are great. It's likely because of the fact that our population of is peaceful- with rare incidents generating tension or requiring excessive force.

But that video is awful. I can't say enough how poorly those officers acted and how I might be distrustful of them given incidents such as these. The one cop was a sergeant too. Leadership. Yikes.

Apparently this is around Atlanta. I don't scare easy but that is some scary shit. Obvious police intimidation.

I also have had mostly positive encounters with the RCMP as apposed to the contact I have had and seen with local cops (although limited). Maybe because its much harder to become an RCMP and they are better trained. I don't really know, just speculating.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

dignin wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

dignin wrote:

Imagine you in this situation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7zYKgDTuDA

Brutal.

I don't know where Dekalb County is, but I can tell you that here in the interior of BC... our RCMP officers are great. It's likely because of the fact that our population of is peaceful- with rare incidents generating tension or requiring excessive force.

But that video is awful. I can't say enough how poorly those officers acted and how I might be distrustful of them given incidents such as these. The one cop was a sergeant too. Leadership. Yikes.

Apparently this is around Atlanta. I don't scare easy but that is some scary shit. Obvious police intimidation.

I also have had mostly positive encounters with the RCMP as apposed to the contact I have had and seen with local cops (although limited). Maybe because its much harder to become an RCMP and they are better trained. I don't really know, just speculating.

You might be speculating, but you're not far from the truth. RCMP used to have standards that few could meet. They were paid well and received great benefits and an awesome pension after 20 years of service.

We have cheaped out in recent decades and their standard of living is not what it used to be; therefore, we don't attract the people we would like to have protecting us. It's not horrible, but it isn't what it used to be either.

You get what you pay for. If people do not want to pony up and pay the profession very well... then they cannot expect a tip-top product. If you're paying $1.99... you're getting a Big Mac- not a sirloin.

Solution? Make the profession attractive so that you can recruit instead of accept.

brianlux

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

We have cheaped out in recent decades and their standard of living is not what it used to be; therefore, we don't attract the people we would like to have protecting us. It's not horrible, but it isn't what it used to be either.

You get what you pay for. If people do not want to pony up and pay the profession very well... then they cannot expect a tip-top product. If you're paying $1.99... you're getting a Big Mac- not a sirloin.

Solution? Make the profession attractive so that you can recruit instead of accept.

Good point, Thirty Bills. The point I was trying to make with this thread was that not all cops are bad (as others here would seem to imply) but making some suggestions as to how to improve chances of have a better police force is useful as well. Good post, TBU.

rollings

hedonist wrote:

So, where I live/work in West Hollywood, there are a number of homeless people with various degrees of mental illness. One fellow used to repeatedly hang out in the alley behind our building - screaming, exposing himself, and then some.

He showed up this morning after an absence of several months. On his back, pleasuring himself (and yelling). I called the sheriffs because much as I feel for this guy, it's a business here.

So two sheriffs show up, we talk, they get their batons in hand and approach him - but with...hmmm...I guess "gentleness" would be the appropriate word.

They ask him if he's OK, does he want some cold water? Dude says no, cops give him a thumbs up, he grabs his blanket, walks away. No more screaming, no more exposed dick.

All's OK.

These guys fucking rock.

:wtf:

hedonist

rollings wrote:

hedonist wrote:

So, where I live/work in West Hollywood, there are a number of homeless people with various degrees of mental illness. One fellow used to repeatedly hang out in the alley behind our building - screaming, exposing himself, and then some.

He showed up this morning after an absence of several months. On his back, pleasuring himself (and yelling). I called the sheriffs because much as I feel for this guy, it's a business here.

So two sheriffs show up, we talk, they get their batons in hand and approach him - but with...hmmm...I guess "gentleness" would be the appropriate word.

They ask him if he's OK, does he want some cold water? Dude says no, cops give him a thumbs up, he grabs his blanket, walks away. No more screaming, no more exposed dick.

All's OK.

These guys fucking rock.

:wtf:

I'm guessing the face is for the parts you bolded? If so, please to elaborate

I do have compassion for him, feel sorry for his situation and his loss of grip on reality.

The guy is (at least most every time I've seen him) a screaming, genital rubbing/exposing loose cannon. He once threw a jar from the dumpster at the car of one of our employees, causing damage. I think our police did a fine job. No harm to anyone involved.

rollings

hedonist wrote:

rollings wrote:

hedonist wrote:

So, where I live/work in West Hollywood, there are a number of homeless people with various degrees of mental illness. One fellow used to repeatedly hang out in the alley behind our building - screaming, exposing himself, and then some.

He showed up this morning after an absence of several months. On his back, pleasuring himself (and yelling). I called the sheriffs because much as I feel for this guy, it's a business here.

So two sheriffs show up, we talk, they get their batons in hand and approach him - but with...hmmm...I guess "gentleness" would be the appropriate word.

They ask him if he's OK, does he want some cold water? Dude says no, cops give him a thumbs up, he grabs his blanket, walks away. No more screaming, no more exposed dick.

All's OK.

These guys fucking rock.

:wtf:

I'm guessing the face is for the parts you bolded? If so, please to elaborate

I do have compassion for him, feel sorry for his situation and his loss of grip on reality.

The guy is (at least most every time I've seen him) a screaming, genital rubbing/exposing loose cannon. He once threw a jar from the dumpster at the car of one of our employees, causing damage. I think our police did a fine job. No harm to anyone involved.

I'm sorry. I knew and understood what you meant. I was making bad jokes with a little play on words, I guess

hedonist

rollings wrote:

I'm sorry. I knew and understood what you meant. I was making bad jokes with a little play on words, I guess

Ahhh, now I get it. No apology necessary

Thirty Bills Unpaid

brianlux wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

We have cheaped out in recent decades and their standard of living is not what it used to be; therefore, we don't attract the people we would like to have protecting us. It's not horrible, but it isn't what it used to be either.

You get what you pay for. If people do not want to pony up and pay the profession very well... then they cannot expect a tip-top product. If you're paying $1.99... you're getting a Big Mac- not a sirloin.

Solution? Make the profession attractive so that you can recruit instead of accept.

Good point, Thirty Bills. The point I was trying to make with this thread was that not all cops are bad (as others here would seem to imply) but making some suggestions as to how to improve chances of have a better police force is useful as well. Good post, TBU.

Thanks, Brian.

I feel badly for police officers. In some people's eyes... they can do no good. For example, in yet another thread designed at 'educating the sheep'... officers of the law were called to a case where someone had a bat and machete and people were threatened. A second person of interest who had, according to accounts, wielded a firearm, was identified. At this person's residence, police discover an upside down bucket with a footprint on it leading to an open window. The police try knocking and get no response.

Dilemma. Suspicion abounds. Decisions to make. An already tense situation has become tenser.

1. If they drive away and innocent people were inside the home and they are harmed... and the bucket was a clear indicator that an intruder had entered the home through the window... these cops look like idiots and people accuse them of incompetence.

2. If they enter the home to ensure nobody is being harmed, they run the risk of being accused of violating people's rights.

Where to error?

They chose option 2 and, wouldn't you know it... 2 large dogs naturally become aggressive. One dog is killed and another is injured.

How can they win?