Cops: they're not all bad.
brianlux
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Reading this forum lately, one would think all cops are bad. That's just not the case. For example:
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2013/obit ... -0419.html
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2013/obit ... -0419.html
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.
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I agree, if not for the actions of this police officer, this family would have never made 6.5 million in there lifetime.
Although i admit if they hadn't have tried to cover it up, the family probably wouldn't have received so much.
Sometimes you just get lucky
Fortunately, my direct / personal experiences with them have been positive, and immensely helpful & comforting.
Good to hear!
I was released from a hospital once under heavy medication and I was really out of it. The hospital staff just had me sign a paper and out I went... in socks and scrubs only... at night... with a twelve mile up-hill walk to my home at the 4,000 foot elevation. I got about a quarter mile when a local cop saw me stumbling down the street and inquired what was up with me. I told him my story and he said, "Hop in, I'll give you a ride home." That man was an angel in blue!
All the more reason to talk about and encourage the good ones and recognize the selfless, courageous and brave acts of the the good ones.
Not long back, one stopped my mothers car because her automatic headlights had not come on yet. In all fairness, dusk had only just started and it wasn't dark yet but fair enough he did it for safety reasons. Now he knew that my mothers model of car did put its lights on automatically and when she went to tell him that, he dismissed her saying "yes, yes, yes, I know that!". Very rudely.
Then he insisted on checking her car out and by this time, my little girl had had a big day. She starts crying and throwing a bit of a tanty and he comes over and shines his freaking torch straight into her face. Understandably, my little one gets even more upset so my Mum says "I don't mean to be rude but if I haven't done anything wrong can I please go because my little granddaughter is really upset" to which he says " I can keep you here all night if I have to" and starts to check all of her wheels???
He kept us there for about 20 minutes in total which was ridiculous. I understand him stopping us but why the attitude?
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I understand where your coming from, Loulou. I've had my my bad run in's as well. Many years ago in the "good old '70's") , I had a cop stop me and my girl friend for a half an hour because I had long hair, big wheels on my Malibu and was drinking a soda which he thought "looked like beer". It was total harassment and very vexing.
However, the point of the thread is to give a little balance to the slew of cop bashing threads with the idea that there are also very good cops doing brave work under dangerous conditions. I'm not giving the bad cops ANY slack, just acknowledging and encouraging the good ones.
I'm sorry to hear about what happened with you and your daughter and you Mom. That totally sucks and I can see where you would be pissed off about that incident! I surely hope you have some good cops to balance out the bad!
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Adelaide 2009
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Christchurch NZ 2009
Eddie Vedder, Adelaide 2011
PJ20 USA 2011 night 1
PJ20 USA 2011 night 2
Adelaide BIG DAY OUT 2014
This is true Snakeduck and I totally get that there are plenty of cases to substantiate what you're saying but the point of this thread is to give some perspective to the numerous recent threads that keep focusing only on bad cops as if to imply that none are good. I said, "Cops: they're not all bad" and I stand behind that. For example, a cop who was a member of my extended family was killed in the line of duty. This incident made national headlines. I never met the man but several people close to me who knew him intimately and describe him in terms that strongly illustrate that he was a good, fine, caring, loving family man who died violently in the line of duty.
This doesn't change the fact that some are rotten to the core and there's no reason to defend that type, but what I'm trying to point out here is simply this- they are not all bad and, in fact, many are good men and women doing good work as police officers.
This is really an eye opener.
"THE Rialto study began in February 2012 and will run until this July. The results from the first 12 months are striking. Even with only half of the 54 uniformed patrol officers wearing cameras at any given time, the department over all had an 88 percent decline in the number of complaints filed against officers, compared with the 12 months before the study, to 3 from 24."
"Rialto’s police officers also used force nearly 60 percent less often — in 25 instances, compared with 61. When force was used, it was twice as likely to have been applied by the officers who weren’t wearing cameras during that shift, the study found. And, lest skeptics think that the officers with cameras are selective about which encounters they record, Mr. Farrar noted that those officers who apply force while wearing a camera have always captured the incident on video."
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/07/busin ... =all&_r=1&
Met some arrogant ones...
And then there are cops abusing their power... corruption...
Detectives with informants are just kind of, well, creepy... to me, anyway.
He showed up this morning after an absence of several months. On his back, pleasuring himself (and yelling). I called the sheriffs because much as I feel for this guy, it's a business here.
So two sheriffs show up, we talk, they get their batons in hand and approach him - but with...hmmm...I guess "gentleness" would be the appropriate word.
They ask him if he's OK, does he want some cold water? Dude says no, cops give him a thumbs up, he grabs his blanket, walks away. No more screaming, no more exposed dick.
All's OK.
These guys fucking rock.
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In all fairness, I think most men are aware of the never touch another man while he is naked or masturbating unwritten law.
That is a crazy story though. Makes the "Florida" thread look tame. :P
I have to give them kudos. Not sure I could be so cool when "faced" with such activity.
We could definitely rival Florida - not sure if that's good or bad though
Sticky situation. I'd turn in my badge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7zYKgDTuDA
Brutal.
I don't know where Dekalb County is, but I can tell you that here in the interior of BC... our RCMP officers are great. It's likely because of the fact that our population of is peaceful- with rare incidents generating tension or requiring excessive force.
But that video is awful. I can't say enough how poorly those officers acted and how I might be distrustful of them given incidents such as these. The one cop was a sergeant too. Leadership. Yikes.
Apparently this is around Atlanta. I don't scare easy but that is some scary shit. Obvious police intimidation.
I also have had mostly positive encounters with the RCMP as apposed to the contact I have had and seen with local cops (although limited). Maybe because its much harder to become an RCMP and they are better trained. I don't really know, just speculating.
You might be speculating, but you're not far from the truth. RCMP used to have standards that few could meet. They were paid well and received great benefits and an awesome pension after 20 years of service.
We have cheaped out in recent decades and their standard of living is not what it used to be; therefore, we don't attract the people we would like to have protecting us. It's not horrible, but it isn't what it used to be either.
You get what you pay for. If people do not want to pony up and pay the profession very well... then they cannot expect a tip-top product. If you're paying $1.99... you're getting a Big Mac- not a sirloin.
Solution? Make the profession attractive so that you can recruit instead of accept.
Good point, Thirty Bills. The point I was trying to make with this thread was that not all cops are bad (as others here would seem to imply) but making some suggestions as to how to improve chances of have a better police force is useful as well. Good post, TBU.
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I do have compassion for him, feel sorry for his situation and his loss of grip on reality.
The guy is (at least most every time I've seen him) a screaming, genital rubbing/exposing loose cannon. He once threw a jar from the dumpster at the car of one of our employees, causing damage. I think our police did a fine job. No harm to anyone involved.
I'm sorry. I knew and understood what you meant. I was making bad jokes with a little play on words, I guess
Thanks, Brian.
I feel badly for police officers. In some people's eyes... they can do no good. For example, in yet another thread designed at 'educating the sheep'... officers of the law were called to a case where someone had a bat and machete and people were threatened. A second person of interest who had, according to accounts, wielded a firearm, was identified. At this person's residence, police discover an upside down bucket with a footprint on it leading to an open window. The police try knocking and get no response.
Dilemma. Suspicion abounds. Decisions to make. An already tense situation has become tenser.
1. If they drive away and innocent people were inside the home and they are harmed... and the bucket was a clear indicator that an intruder had entered the home through the window... these cops look like idiots and people accuse them of incompetence.
2. If they enter the home to ensure nobody is being harmed, they run the risk of being accused of violating people's rights.
Where to error?
They chose option 2 and, wouldn't you know it... 2 large dogs naturally become aggressive. One dog is killed and another is injured.
How can they win?