The first accusers father sued MJ, when MJ released his first album post trial. He demanded 60 million and wanted to make his own album, titled EVANStory. MJ's album of course was called HIStory.
He claimed it was a breach of confidentiality. Anyone who has listened to the album knows MJ was railing against his mistreatment and the trial. But nothing in the album mentions the accuser, his parents, or details about the case. In fact MJ's most angry song, maybe ever, DS, is an attack on the prosecutor, and never mentions the child or the parents.
Jackson's a joke in every way, shape or form ... I've long ago stopped figuring out why people defend this guy, just like I've long ago stopped trying to figure out why some people think OJ is innocent.
MJ said he paid them off because he didn't want to subject his family to a trial
Years ago, I settled with certain individuals because I was concerned about my family and the media scrutiny that would have ensued if I fought the matter in court.
How's that working out for your daughter these days MJ?
that is some shit right there. wow! mike was fucked up dude
I am not convinced yet that he abused anyone. I am however convinced that a fairly large group of people abused Michael, while the entire world watched and looked the other way. I appreciate Michael for all he has given to the world and mourn for all he has suffered.
i mourn for the nude & semi nude boys in his photographic & video collections as well as the boys he sexually assaulted
i personally find zero pleasure in reading his crimes nor do i find any sort of pleasure in discussing sick ass bullshit that mike had done
Add to all this something that cannot be disputed: Jackson (and his estate) bought the rights to Beatles songs and then sold off some of them for advertise products and in doing so, sold off their integrity- another form of perversion.
and refused to sell them to paul after having a bidding war with paul, mike had more cash & he rubbed the beatles song rights it in paul's face. mike is a solid turd
Add to all this something that cannot be disputed: Jackson (and his estate) bought the rights to Beatles songs and then sold off some of them for advertise products and in doing so, sold off their integrity- another form of perversion.
and refused to sell them to paul after having a bidding war with paul, mike had more cash & he rubbed the beatles song rights it in paul's face. mike is a solid turd
After recording with Paul, and living with Paul and Linda too.
Add to all this something that cannot be disputed: Jackson (and his estate) bought the rights to Beatles songs and then sold off some of them for advertise products and in doing so, sold off their integrity- another form of perversion.
and refused to sell them to paul after having a bidding war with paul, mike had more cash & he rubbed the beatles song rights it in paul's face. mike is a solid turd
After recording with Paul, and living with Paul and Linda too.
Add to all this something that cannot be disputed: Jackson (and his estate) bought the rights to Beatles songs and then sold off some of them for advertise products and in doing so, sold off their integrity- another form of perversion.
and refused to sell them to paul after having a bidding war with paul, mike had more cash & he rubbed the beatles song rights it in paul's face. mike is a solid turd
And the sad thing is, George Harrison was particularly bothered by these events and he couldn't reverse what happened either- and now he's gone. Sad.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Add to all this something that cannot be disputed: Jackson (and his estate) bought the rights to Beatles songs and then sold off some of them for advertise products and in doing so, sold off their integrity- another form of perversion.
and refused to sell them to paul after having a bidding war with paul, mike had more cash & he rubbed the beatles song rights it in paul's face. mike is a solid turd
And the sad thing is, George Harrison was particularly bothered by these events and he couldn't reverse what happened either- and now he's gone. Sad.
heartbreaking events completely caused by greed & a horrible self-centered attitude
MJ said he paid them off because he didn't want to subject his family to a trial
Years ago, I settled with certain individuals because I was concerned about my family and the media scrutiny that would have ensued if I fought the matter in court.
How's that working out for your daughter these days MJ?
that is some shit right there. wow! mike was fucked up dude
The majority of that stuff was thrown out. And never presented at trial. The prosecution obviously felt it wasnt an issue. The main book presented at trial with the inscription in it, was proven to have been a gift from a friend.
This is as the affidavit says-circumstantial evidence.
Im sorry but just because someone has books and magazines, that means nothing in terms of their actual committing of a crime. People own some wierd and strange books. Im sure you do too. But lets be clear just because someone has a book on Ted Bundy and they are accused of a crime, doesnt mean they are a serial killer.
Either the abuse happened or it didnt. But one thing is for sure, Janet Arvizo is crazy. And hallucinated and made up a whole slew of scenarios and told those under oath. Hot air balloons, held captive, MJ at neverland at times when he wasnt, these things never happened.
Leno, Tucker and Lopez all tesitified the Arvizo's tried to steal money or demanded money from them. Not sure why anyone would think the MJ situation was any different.
Anyone who can't see beyond the silly "hyperbaric chamber" gossip nonsense, is an absolute moron.
I get my facts from legitimate sources. Not supermarket tabloids
I guess O.J. was innocent too, right? Just because you're found innocent in court doesn't mean that you are!!
Money= the best lawyers or the ability to pay outrageous settlements.
Repeat, he was a diddler!! Too bad his death wasn't slow and extremely painful.
truly the greatest statement ever stated on this site
Interesting. So i guess celebrities are the only ones obsessed with wealth and money.
Read about the Arvizos and Evan Chandler. We have Janet Arvizo a proven liar and slanderer who makes up claims about sexual assault to get money. And Evan Chandler who vows to take MJ down so he can pay off his child support payments.
Anyone who takes a claim made while given Truth Serum as truth is out of their minds.
Again, Leno, Lopez and Tucker all claim the Arvizos did the same thing to them.
So the Arvizos met MJ and somehow they were "oh he's one of the most wealthy men on the planet, but, yeah we will treat him fairly, and not try to exploit or extort him like we did with those other 3 celebrities"?
only one of those books contained explicit imagery. Wade Robeson the guy who has now changed his mind, who in 2005 said MJ never did anything, now says he was abused. But anyways in 2005 Robeson said the main book presented at trial was not explicit, nor was it illicit.
Janet Arvizo consulted with a lawyer in Jan 2000, about suing MJ for molesting her son. This was months before MJ had met either the mom or the son.
only one of those books contained explicit imagery .
From the 93 search.
Book: Boys Will Be Boys, containing photographs of boys under the age of 14; full frontal nudity. This book was personally inscribed by Michael Jackson.
Book: In Search Of Young Beauty, containing photographs of children, both boys and girls; some nude.
Book: The Boy, A Photographic Essay, containing black and white photos of boys, some nude.
Photograph: A photograph of a boy, believed to be Jonathan Spence; fully nude.
Photograph: A photograph of a young boy holding an umbrella; wearing bikini bottoms, partly pulled down.
From 2003 search.
Dressed Up Playacys and Fantasies of Childhood: 1978 photo book. Contains three photos of teenage boys naked.
Robert Maxwell Photographs: old photos, some nude, some of young children (nude and dressed).
Taormina Wilhelm Von Gloeden: Nude photos of teenage boys from the late 1800.
The Golden Age Of Neglect: Photos of teenagers, some nude.
Room To Play: Photos of children that are altered, morphed head on older bodies, kids made to look sexualized. Some are nude photos of kids.
This fella had so many people accuse him of this, there must be an element of truth to it. It's funny, he's the only man I can think of that had so many sexual abuse accusations yet so many people are so fiercely protecting him. Very odd. :?
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That Wade guy was probably very reluctant to come forward because of the backlash from his million supporters.
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I wonder what all you guys would do if a band member from your favorite band was accused of something like this. Then we see why Jackson's fans support him and don't believe it. I know something freaked the hell out of Lisa Marie Presley and she wrote a great song about it. I always thought of Michael as being childlike even to the end.
But I agree he was never found guilty of crap, his kids are here to take all this shit though
so for them alone I'd say lay off. He's gone. What is the purpose? And those who have kids know kids break easy when it comes to talking shit about their parents... your mama crap.
Great point too about the parents who took money, parents want justice for an abused child unless they were only after money to begin with.
That what you fear the most could meet you halfway
That Wade guy was probably very reluctant to come forward because of the backlash from his million supporters.
No he wasnt. He was one of the star witnesses for the defense in 2005. Flat out said in affidavit and on stand nothing happenened when he was a kid and visited Neverland.
Its only in 2013 that he suddenly has changed his mind.
Not sure he's the most trust worthy of people.
He's demanding millions of dollars and suing the Jackson estate just like the Arvizos and Chandlers did
only one of those books contained explicit imagery .
From the 93 search.
Book: Boys Will Be Boys, containing photographs of boys under the age of 14; full frontal nudity. This book was personally inscribed by Michael Jackson.
Book: In Search Of Young Beauty, containing photographs of children, both boys and girls; some nude.
Book: The Boy, A Photographic Essay, containing black and white photos of boys, some nude.
Photograph: A photograph of a boy, believed to be Jonathan Spence; fully nude.
Photograph: A photograph of a young boy holding an umbrella; wearing bikini bottoms, partly pulled down.
From 2003 search.
Dressed Up Playacys and Fantasies of Childhood: 1978 photo book. Contains three photos of teenage boys naked.
Robert Maxwell Photographs: old photos, some nude, some of young children (nude and dressed).
Taormina Wilhelm Von Gloeden: Nude photos of teenage boys from the late 1800.
The Golden Age Of Neglect: Photos of teenagers, some nude.
Room To Play: Photos of children that are altered, morphed head on older bodies, kids made to look sexualized. Some are nude photos of kids.
Sure, thats the tabloid, ET version. Lots of art has nudity in it. The main and basically only book presented at 2005 trial was The Boy. Which as I said, was proven to have been a gift from a friend to MJ. It was an art book. The state made a big deal about it. Read the court transcripts. Its like presenting a list of items found in a suspects house and then saying "hey John, he did it, we found all this stuff". The trial transcripts show, and Wade Robeson and several other witnesses and friends backed the claim up, that the book wasn't explicit, that it was a gift, that MJ was a fan of art etc...
Your bullet list, or the "states" supposed finds, make no difference between art books and explicit books. Hell, take those massive 50 pound books you can find at the library, that list all the major art projects of the latest century. Theres some bizaare stuff in those too.
I wonder what all you guys would do if a band member from your favorite band was accused of something like this. Then we see why Jackson's fans support him and don't believe it. I know something freaked the hell out of Lisa Marie Presley and she wrote a great song about it. I always thought of Michael as being childlike even to the end.
But I agree he was never found guilty of crap, his kids are here to take all this shit though
so for them alone I'd say lay off. He's gone. What is the purpose? And those who have kids know kids break easy when it comes to talking shit about their parents... your mama crap.
Great point too about the parents who took money, parents want justice for an abused child unless they were only after money to begin with.
No I dont believe it, because I actually followed and researched the case. We all can make surface judgements based on Wacko Jacko and the media's portrayal of MJ. Or you can actually dig deep and research what happened. That entails finding out the public and basic history of the 2005 accusers family, that is just a simple Google search away. As is the truth serum confession by the 1993 accuser, as well as his dad's bizaare and sordid history.
The skin bleaching "he made himself white" claim is a perfect textbook example. Hounded for decades that he turned his back on his black heritidge and changed his skin to be white. He maintained for years he had vitiligo, which turned his skin white. After his death, it came out, he indeed had vitiligo.
Theres myth and facts. Hanging children out windows, having sleepovers with children. Those may not be looked at as acceptable, but theres a difference between that, and what he was accused of. Hanging a child out a window doesnt have squat to do with whether he molested children.
Its basic research 101. Before making a judgement you see both sides then come up with a conclusion. You can only do that once you see both sides.
Id wager 95 percent of this board and 95 percent of the public at large hasnt read about the basic infor about the accusers families.
MJ maintained he was the victim of a witchhunt from day 1, and that the PARENTS were out to extort money. I see nothing to suggest he wasnt totally correct.
I dont know why anyone would say otherwise-Lopez and Leno and Tucker all said the 2nd family tried to extort money from them. Why would anyone support that mother or believe an iota of what comes out of her mouth?
Sure, thats the tabloid, ET version. Lots of art has nudity in it. The main and basically only book presented at 2005 trial was The Boy. Which as I said, was proven to have been a gift from a friend to MJ. It was an art book. The state made a big deal about it. Read the court transcripts. Its like presenting a list of items found in a suspects house and then saying "hey John, he did it, we found all this stuff". The trial transcripts show, and Wade Robeson and several other witnesses and friends backed the claim up, that the book wasn't explicit, that it was a gift, that MJ was a fan of art etc...
Your bullet list, or the "states" supposed finds, make no difference between art books and explicit books. Hell, take those massive 50 pound books you can find at the library, that list all the major art projects of the latest century. Theres some bizaare stuff in those too.
You seem to want to dismiss everything that is presented to you as nothing more than 'small potatoes'. Take his Thriller poster off your wall and look at the situation for what it is.
You call books with naked children in it 'art'... I call them child pornography. People came forward against this freak and there is plenty of circumstantial evidence that point to a situation pretty difficult to deny. You can call all his accusers liars and frauds and you can also excuse his choice of tableside reading featuring naked boys as 'art' if you wish... but the people with an ounce of common sense don't wish to stick their heads in the sand and say that Michael Jackson was portrayed poorly in the press.
This weirdo loved prepubescent boys. So much that he tried to transform himself into one with the most obscene amount of cosmetic surgery one could ever hope to bear witness to. His money got him out of hot water. I would bet anything that attorneys advised their clients to take the money given that going to trial would not guarantee a conviction- especially with the amount of money they were stacked up against. He bought his 'innocence'.
And, to boot, his music is far from genius. It's pop music with dancing that appeals to the most simple tastes... in my opinion.
That Wade guy was probably very reluctant to come forward because of the backlash from his million supporters.
No he wasnt. He was one of the star witnesses for the defense in 2005. Flat out said in affidavit and on stand nothing happenened when he was a kid and visited Neverland.
Its only in 2013 that he suddenly has changed his mind.
Not sure he's the most trust worthy of people.
He's demanding millions of dollars and suing the Jackson estate just like the Arvizos and Chandlers did
I'm not saying that he's definitely telling the truth because I don't know either MJ or Wade. Just saying that if it were true, he may have only changed his mind now because he was scared of the backlash.
Wade actually says that once he had a child, it actually brought to light for him that what went on between them both was wrong. Just because he's seeking compensation doesn't automatically mean he's full of shit. If we thought like that, lots of genuine victims of abuse would never see (some form) of justice served.
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only one of those books contained explicit imagery. Wade Robeson the guy who has now changed his mind, who in 2005 said MJ never did anything, now says he was abused. But anyways in 2005 Robeson said the main book presented at trial was not explicit, nor was it illicit.
Janet Arvizo consulted with a lawyer in Jan 2000, about suing MJ for molesting her son. This was months before MJ had met either the mom or the son.
How can you attack tiger woods without lack of pure court / jury concluded evidence and then defend micheal Jackson so passionately?
Woods allegedly had a troop of legal women he had relations with. Jackson allegedly had a troop of underage boys he had relations with.
only one of those books contained explicit imagery. Wade Robeson the guy who has now changed his mind, who in 2005 said MJ never did anything, now says he was abused. But anyways in 2005 Robeson said the main book presented at trial was not explicit, nor was it illicit.
Janet Arvizo consulted with a lawyer in Jan 2000, about suing MJ for molesting her son. This was months before MJ had met either the mom or the son.
How can you attack tiger woods without lack of pure court / jury concluded evidence and then defend micheal Jackson so passionately?
Woods allegedly had a troop of legal women he had relations with. Jackson allegedly had a troop of underage boys he had relations with.
You condemn Woods yet give Jackson a pass.
If true ... Which is worse?
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I wanted to bring up this exact point so many times reading all his nonsense
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He claimed it was a breach of confidentiality. Anyone who has listened to the album knows MJ was railing against his mistreatment and the trial. But nothing in the album mentions the accuser, his parents, or details about the case. In fact MJ's most angry song, maybe ever, DS, is an attack on the prosecutor, and never mentions the child or the parents.
Not at all bothered ...
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"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
i personally find zero pleasure in reading his crimes nor do i find any sort of pleasure in discussing sick ass bullshit that mike had done
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
After recording with Paul, and living with Paul and Linda too.
Yeah
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
And the sad thing is, George Harrison was particularly bothered by these events and he couldn't reverse what happened either- and now he's gone. Sad.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
The majority of that stuff was thrown out. And never presented at trial. The prosecution obviously felt it wasnt an issue. The main book presented at trial with the inscription in it, was proven to have been a gift from a friend.
This is as the affidavit says-circumstantial evidence.
Im sorry but just because someone has books and magazines, that means nothing in terms of their actual committing of a crime. People own some wierd and strange books. Im sure you do too. But lets be clear just because someone has a book on Ted Bundy and they are accused of a crime, doesnt mean they are a serial killer.
Either the abuse happened or it didnt. But one thing is for sure, Janet Arvizo is crazy. And hallucinated and made up a whole slew of scenarios and told those under oath. Hot air balloons, held captive, MJ at neverland at times when he wasnt, these things never happened.
Leno, Tucker and Lopez all tesitified the Arvizo's tried to steal money or demanded money from them. Not sure why anyone would think the MJ situation was any different.
Anyone who can't see beyond the silly "hyperbaric chamber" gossip nonsense, is an absolute moron.
I get my facts from legitimate sources. Not supermarket tabloids
Interesting. So i guess celebrities are the only ones obsessed with wealth and money.
Read about the Arvizos and Evan Chandler. We have Janet Arvizo a proven liar and slanderer who makes up claims about sexual assault to get money. And Evan Chandler who vows to take MJ down so he can pay off his child support payments.
Anyone who takes a claim made while given Truth Serum as truth is out of their minds.
Again, Leno, Lopez and Tucker all claim the Arvizos did the same thing to them.
So the Arvizos met MJ and somehow they were "oh he's one of the most wealthy men on the planet, but, yeah we will treat him fairly, and not try to exploit or extort him like we did with those other 3 celebrities"?
Really?
Janet Arvizo consulted with a lawyer in Jan 2000, about suing MJ for molesting her son. This was months before MJ had met either the mom or the son.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
From the 93 search.
Book: Boys Will Be Boys, containing photographs of boys under the age of 14; full frontal nudity. This book was personally inscribed by Michael Jackson.
Book: In Search Of Young Beauty, containing photographs of children, both boys and girls; some nude.
Book: The Boy, A Photographic Essay, containing black and white photos of boys, some nude.
Photograph: A photograph of a boy, believed to be Jonathan Spence; fully nude.
Photograph: A photograph of a young boy holding an umbrella; wearing bikini bottoms, partly pulled down.
From 2003 search.
Dressed Up Playacys and Fantasies of Childhood: 1978 photo book. Contains three photos of teenage boys naked.
Robert Maxwell Photographs: old photos, some nude, some of young children (nude and dressed).
Taormina Wilhelm Von Gloeden: Nude photos of teenage boys from the late 1800.
The Golden Age Of Neglect: Photos of teenagers, some nude.
Room To Play: Photos of children that are altered, morphed head on older bodies, kids made to look sexualized. Some are nude photos of kids.
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But I agree he was never found guilty of crap, his kids are here to take all this shit though
so for them alone I'd say lay off. He's gone. What is the purpose? And those who have kids know kids break easy when it comes to talking shit about their parents... your mama crap.
Great point too about the parents who took money, parents want justice for an abused child unless they were only after money to begin with.
No he wasnt. He was one of the star witnesses for the defense in 2005. Flat out said in affidavit and on stand nothing happenened when he was a kid and visited Neverland.
Its only in 2013 that he suddenly has changed his mind.
Not sure he's the most trust worthy of people.
He's demanding millions of dollars and suing the Jackson estate just like the Arvizos and Chandlers did
Sure, thats the tabloid, ET version. Lots of art has nudity in it. The main and basically only book presented at 2005 trial was The Boy. Which as I said, was proven to have been a gift from a friend to MJ. It was an art book. The state made a big deal about it. Read the court transcripts. Its like presenting a list of items found in a suspects house and then saying "hey John, he did it, we found all this stuff". The trial transcripts show, and Wade Robeson and several other witnesses and friends backed the claim up, that the book wasn't explicit, that it was a gift, that MJ was a fan of art etc...
Your bullet list, or the "states" supposed finds, make no difference between art books and explicit books. Hell, take those massive 50 pound books you can find at the library, that list all the major art projects of the latest century. Theres some bizaare stuff in those too.
No I dont believe it, because I actually followed and researched the case. We all can make surface judgements based on Wacko Jacko and the media's portrayal of MJ. Or you can actually dig deep and research what happened. That entails finding out the public and basic history of the 2005 accusers family, that is just a simple Google search away. As is the truth serum confession by the 1993 accuser, as well as his dad's bizaare and sordid history.
The skin bleaching "he made himself white" claim is a perfect textbook example. Hounded for decades that he turned his back on his black heritidge and changed his skin to be white. He maintained for years he had vitiligo, which turned his skin white. After his death, it came out, he indeed had vitiligo.
Theres myth and facts. Hanging children out windows, having sleepovers with children. Those may not be looked at as acceptable, but theres a difference between that, and what he was accused of. Hanging a child out a window doesnt have squat to do with whether he molested children.
Its basic research 101. Before making a judgement you see both sides then come up with a conclusion. You can only do that once you see both sides.
Id wager 95 percent of this board and 95 percent of the public at large hasnt read about the basic infor about the accusers families.
MJ maintained he was the victim of a witchhunt from day 1, and that the PARENTS were out to extort money. I see nothing to suggest he wasnt totally correct.
I dont know why anyone would say otherwise-Lopez and Leno and Tucker all said the 2nd family tried to extort money from them. Why would anyone support that mother or believe an iota of what comes out of her mouth?
You seem to want to dismiss everything that is presented to you as nothing more than 'small potatoes'. Take his Thriller poster off your wall and look at the situation for what it is.
You call books with naked children in it 'art'... I call them child pornography. People came forward against this freak and there is plenty of circumstantial evidence that point to a situation pretty difficult to deny. You can call all his accusers liars and frauds and you can also excuse his choice of tableside reading featuring naked boys as 'art' if you wish... but the people with an ounce of common sense don't wish to stick their heads in the sand and say that Michael Jackson was portrayed poorly in the press.
This weirdo loved prepubescent boys. So much that he tried to transform himself into one with the most obscene amount of cosmetic surgery one could ever hope to bear witness to. His money got him out of hot water. I would bet anything that attorneys advised their clients to take the money given that going to trial would not guarantee a conviction- especially with the amount of money they were stacked up against. He bought his 'innocence'.
And, to boot, his music is far from genius. It's pop music with dancing that appeals to the most simple tastes... in my opinion.
End of thread.
Wade actually says that once he had a child, it actually brought to light for him that what went on between them both was wrong. Just because he's seeking compensation doesn't automatically mean he's full of shit. If we thought like that, lots of genuine victims of abuse would never see (some form) of justice served.
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Woods allegedly had a troop of legal women he had relations with. Jackson allegedly had a troop of underage boys he had relations with.
You condemn Woods yet give Jackson a pass.
If true ... Which is worse?
:corn:
I wanted to bring up this exact point so many times reading all his nonsense
Like how is this even a discussion?