Mandela

unsung
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edited December 2013 in A Moving Train
Just heard reports that he has passed.
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  • Guitar92player
    Guitar92player Posts: 664
    I have seen no such reports
    ~Carter~

    You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
    or you can come to terms and realize
    you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
    makes much more sense to live in the present tense     - Present Tense
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,431
    i can't find that story either...

    i hope it is not true...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i can't find that story either...

    i hope it is not true...
    Me neither, on both points.

    But, it seems like it's looming...been looming.

    Nice to read today that - assuming it's accurate - he opened his eyes and smiled.

    Must've been sweet for him and his loved ones.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Looks like it was a false report, the website deleted the story.
  • Guitar92player
    Guitar92player Posts: 664
    He was put on life support today:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-575 ... e-support/
    ~Carter~

    You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
    or you can come to terms and realize
    you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
    makes much more sense to live in the present tense     - Present Tense
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,766
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i can't find that story either...

    i hope it is not true...
    I was actually hoping it was true. The man is suffering, and I hope he is out of his misery soon instead of it drawing out longer. :( He, of all people, deserves a dignified death.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    At almost midnight on the east coast in the US, I am about to go to sleep knowing full well that I will wake up to Nelson Mandela being dead. I truly hope the world understands what this man meant to our planet and he gets the respect he deserves. In my 30 years, I can think of no one else who deserves the respect he does.

    Thank you, for standing up to what's right. Thank you for showing courage in the face of a massive majority and thank you for showing this cold world what dignity and respect means.

    This is literally the first person aside from my old man that I will shed a tear for. Thank you. America can certainly take a lesson from your courage.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,675
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    At almost midnight on the east coast in the US, I am about to go to sleep knowing full well that I will wake up to Nelson Mandela being dead. I truly hope the world understands what this man meant to our planet and he gets the respect he deserves. In my 30 years, I can think of no one else who deserves the respect he does.

    Thank you, for standing up to what's right. Thank you for showing courage in the face of a massive majority and thank you for showing this cold world what dignity and respect means.

    This is literally the first person aside from my old man that I will shed a tear for. Thank you. America can certainly take a lesson from your courage.

    Those are heavy thoughts, well worth reflecting on and well said, Cliffy. Very moving. Thank you.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • lcusick
    lcusick Posts: 310
    brianlux wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    At almost midnight on the east coast in the US, I am about to go to sleep knowing full well that I will wake up to Nelson Mandela being dead. I truly hope the world understands what this man meant to our planet and he gets the respect he deserves. In my 30 years, I can think of no one else who deserves the respect he does.

    Thank you, for standing up to what's right. Thank you for showing courage in the face of a massive majority and thank you for showing this cold world what dignity and respect means.

    This is literally the first person aside from my old man that I will shed a tear for. Thank you. America can certainly take a lesson from your courage.

    Those are heavy thoughts, well worth reflecting on and well said, Cliffy. Very moving. Thank you.

    I agree- an amazing man!!!
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    Thank you Cliffy...

    A truly great man. He changed the world. I can't really think of anyone who had such an impact.

    May he slip away peacefully and with dignity.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Out of the night that covers me,
    Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
    I thank whatever gods may be
    For my unconquerable soul.

    In the fell clutch of circumstance
    I have not winced nor cried aloud.
    Under the bludgeonings of chance
    My head is bloody, but unbowed.

    Beyond this place of wrath and tears
    Looms but the Horror of the shade,
    And yet the menace of the years
    Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

    It matters not how strait the gate,
    How charged with punishments the scroll.
    I am the master of my fate:
    I am the captain of my soul.
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • Guitar92player
    Guitar92player Posts: 664
    I saw a headline saying he has improved a bit. He is in critical, but stable condition.
    ~Carter~

    You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
    or you can come to terms and realize
    you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
    makes much more sense to live in the present tense     - Present Tense
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Bittersweet:

    Meanwhile, Mandela's eldest daughter said he appeared to be able to hear family members.

    Speaking to SABC radio, Makaziwe Mandela said: "I won't lie, it doesn't look good. But as I say, if we speak to him, he responds and tries to open his eyes. He's still there. He might be waning off, but he's still there."

    By the way, that was a really nice post up there, Cliffy.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    brianlux wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    At almost midnight on the east coast in the US, I am about to go to sleep knowing full well that I will wake up to Nelson Mandela being dead. I truly hope the world understands what this man meant to our planet and he gets the respect he deserves. In my 30 years, I can think of no one else who deserves the respect he does.

    Thank you, for standing up to what's right. Thank you for showing courage in the face of a massive majority and thank you for showing this cold world what dignity and respect means.

    This is literally the first person aside from my old man that I will shed a tear for. Thank you. America can certainly take a lesson from your courage.

    Those are heavy thoughts, well worth reflecting on and well said, Cliffy. Very moving. Thank you.
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    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,675
    Lots of rumors going around but it appears he is still on life support. The rumors are disheartening- next thing you know the cheesy tabloids on the super market check out isles will have head lines like "Mandela Abducted by Aliens- Family Feuding Over Who Gets to Keep his Sox". :?

    A more likely-too-be-truthful report is this:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/0 ... 47441.html
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I don't really profess to know the history of him but when he was arrested wasn't he stockpiling over 200,000 grenades and land mines?

    I have been told he was asked to renounce violence but refused to do so.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    unsung wrote:
    I don't really profess to know the history of him but when he was arrested wasn't he stockpiling over 200,000 grenades and land mines?

    I have been told he was asked to renounce violence but refused to do so.


    who told you that?
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Well it's in the Rivonia trial transcripts...

    Also

    "The extent to which the National High Command plotted their policy of sabotage...can be gauged from their ‘production requirements’— a program which they planned to complete in six months. These requirements, as the documents prove, included 144 tons of ammonium nitrate, 21.6 tons of aluminium powder, and 15 tons of black powder. Without taking into account the explosives and detonators which the members of the sabotage squads throughout the country were enjoined by their leaders to steal from explosives magazines and various mines, the experts will say that the aforementioned ‘production requirements’ constituted sufficient to blow up a town as extensive as Johannesburg...."

    Mandela states, " I do not, however, deny that I planned sabotage. I did not plan it in a spirit of recklessness, nor because I have any love of violence. I planned it as a result of a calm and sober assessment of the political situation that had arisen after many years of tyranny, exploitation, and oppression of my people by the Whites."
  • guypjfreak
    guypjfreak Posts: 2,281
    soz didnt catch this thread but here my bit
    just seen on the news that hes been brain dead for 10 days and that the family are arguing over his body .
    his brother [ i hope ive got that right ] seems to want to start a Mandela theme park.....
    kids bodys are being dug up.....
    2 sisters have one brand of Mandela clothing while ....
    some aunts have started anther line of clothes ...
    theres even a wine you can buy.....


    the mans a legend that HAS changed the world WHY WHY WHY cant he be given the peace he never really got when he was well and alive ..

    the world and some people are vaulters ..

    just my thoughts

    cheers
  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    Very well said, Cliff

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