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  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    35 permanent jobs. As construction jobs are rarely permanent, this makes sense.
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    The pipeline will eventually be finished and probably sooner than you realize ... the world needs oil and thats not about to change anytime soon or even in my lifetime.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    So you have 1 job, as a construction worker, not 35 jobs, as 35 construction workers.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    lukin2006 wrote: »
    The pipeline will eventually be finished and probably sooner than you realize ... the world needs oil and thats not about to change anytime soon or even in my lifetime.

    Yes, the oil companies will always win and we will continue to destroy our environment and we will all crash and burn and die hallelujah!

    But I'll keep working against all that anyway because that's just how I am! :-D

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    brianlux wrote: »
    lukin2006 wrote: »
    The pipeline will eventually be finished and probably sooner than you realize ... the world needs oil and thats not about to change anytime soon or even in my lifetime.

    Yes, the oil companies will always win and we will continue to destroy our environment and we will all crash and burn and die hallelujah!

    But I'll keep working against all that anyway because that's just how I am! :-D

    Do you honestly think 1 single politician in YOUR or MY country gives a rat's ass about the environment. If thats the case why is hemp still illegal? Making nature illegal ... WTF. The only thing politicians care about is hoarding and greed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    lukin2006 wrote: »
    The only thing politicians care about is hoarding and greed.
    and danger.

    carlos-danger-name.jpg
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    lukin2006 wrote: »
    brianlux wrote: »
    lukin2006 wrote: »
    The pipeline will eventually be finished and probably sooner than you realize ... the world needs oil and thats not about to change anytime soon or even in my lifetime.

    Yes, the oil companies will always win and we will continue to destroy our environment and we will all crash and burn and die hallelujah!

    But I'll keep working against all that anyway because that's just how I am! :-D

    Do you honestly think 1 single politician in YOUR or MY country gives a rat's ass about the environment. If thats the case why is hemp still illegal? Making nature illegal ... WTF. The only thing politicians care about is hoarding and greed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp

    Yes, in all of America I think there is one politician in yours or my country who cares about the environment and when I find him or her I'm going to shake his or her hand. Meanwhile, it is just as much my and your responsibility to get the word out about doing the right thing, politicians be damned!

    And yes, let's work to get hemp legalized too! Good point, lukin2006!

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Dennis Kucinich is a straight up dude. I like him, he's still a politician so he makes compromises to stay in the game, but I really believe he cares.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    rgambs wrote: »
    Dennis Kucinich is a straight up dude. I like him, he's still a politician so he makes compromises to stay in the game, but I really believe he cares.

    I would shake his hand! :-D

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    We Canadians are very disappointed with President Obama. But if you believe in buying oil from dictators and monarchies in the Middle East and shipping it to North America in large oil tankers so be it.
    We will refine it ourselves and sell it to you.
    We are your friends and largest trading partner. I am pro-environment, but not anti-oil.
    Pipeline is the safest way to transport crude, compared to the alternatives of rail or sea.

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    1ThoughtKnown wrote: »
    We Canadians are very disappointed with President Obama. But if you believe in buying oil from dictators and monarchies in the Middle East and shipping it to North America in large oil tankers so be it.
    We will refine it ourselves and sell it to you.
    We are your friends and largest trading partner. I am pro-environment, but not anti-oil.
    Pipeline is the safest way to transport crude, compared to the alternatives of rail or sea.

    Surely you know this oil is not intended to be sold in the U.S.?

    Since you are pro-environment (and other than people with suicidal tendencies, who isn't?) I assume you are pro-clean alternative energy as well.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Mr Lux is correct, this oil is not intended for US consumption. It would change the debate for me a fair amount if it was, but alas...
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    brianlux wrote: »
    lukin2006 wrote: »
    brianlux wrote: »
    lukin2006 wrote: »
    The pipeline will eventually be finished and probably sooner than you realize ... the world needs oil and thats not about to change anytime soon or even in my lifetime.

    Yes, the oil companies will always win and we will continue to destroy our environment and we will all crash and burn and die hallelujah!

    But I'll keep working against all that anyway because that's just how I am! :-D

    Do you honestly think 1 single politician in YOUR or MY country gives a rat's ass about the environment. If thats the case why is hemp still illegal? Making nature illegal ... WTF. The only thing politicians care about is hoarding and greed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp

    Yes, in all of America I think there is one politician in yours or my country who cares about the environment and when I find him or her I'm going to shake his or her hand. Meanwhile, it is just as much my and your responsibility to get the word out about doing the right thing, politicians be damned!

    And yes, let's work to get hemp legalized too! Good point, lukin2006!

    Good luck, and I am of the belief that all politicians care about is getting elected then re-elected ... they tell the people what they want to hear to get votes, after they win they suddenly don't give a damn.

    I agree its the responsibility of individuals to do the right things within their means ...

    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    lukin2006 wrote: »
    brianlux wrote: »
    lukin2006 wrote: »
    brianlux wrote: »
    lukin2006 wrote: »
    The pipeline will eventually be finished and probably sooner than you realize ... the world needs oil and thats not about to change anytime soon or even in my lifetime.

    Yes, the oil companies will always win and we will continue to destroy our environment and we will all crash and burn and die hallelujah!

    But I'll keep working against all that anyway because that's just how I am! :-D

    Do you honestly think 1 single politician in YOUR or MY country gives a rat's ass about the environment. If thats the case why is hemp still illegal? Making nature illegal ... WTF. The only thing politicians care about is hoarding and greed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp

    Yes, in all of America I think there is one politician in yours or my country who cares about the environment and when I find him or her I'm going to shake his or her hand. Meanwhile, it is just as much my and your responsibility to get the word out about doing the right thing, politicians be damned!

    And yes, let's work to get hemp legalized too! Good point, lukin2006!

    Good luck, and I am of the belief that all politicians care about is getting elected then re-elected ... they tell the people what they want to hear to get votes, after they win they suddenly don't give a damn.

    I agree its the responsibility of individuals to do the right things within their means ...

    Fantastic, lukin2006! I would love to hear about how you are getting involved and what you think we can can do!

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    edited January 2015
    So what is your reference's that the oil flowing through keystone is for export. I have read many articles that state it's not for export ...

    Post edited by lukin2006 on
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Most construction jobs are temporary, individuals who work in this field know that ... they accept the fact that they go where the work is.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    brianlux wrote: »

    Fantastic, lukin2006! I would love to hear about how you are getting involved and what you think we can can do!

    Why? I do what I can, I'm definitely not anal about ... I'm realistic enough to know oil consumption will not end anytime soon.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    lukin2006 wrote: »
    brianlux wrote: »

    Fantastic, lukin2006! I would love to hear about how you are getting involved and what you think we can can do!

    Why? I do what I can, I'm definitely not anal about ... I'm realistic enough to know oil consumption will not end anytime soon.

    Do you really want me to list some things you can do?

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    It's kind of a stupid debate cause the Canucks aren't siting with their finger in their butt waiting on this legislation for the past six years. Tar sand retrieval is going full steam ahead whether or not their is a pipeline to Texas.
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    Oil is
    brianlux wrote: »
    1ThoughtKnown wrote: »
    We Canadians are very disappointed with President Obama. But if you believe in buying oil from dictators and monarchies in the Middle East and shipping it to North America in large oil tankers so be it.
    We will refine it ourselves and sell it to you.
    We are your friends and largest trading partner. I am pro-environment, but not anti-oil.
    Pipeline is the safest way to transport crude, compared to the alternatives of rail or sea.

    Surely you know this oil is not intended to be sold in the U.S.?

    Since you are pro-environment (and other than people with suicidal tendencies, who isn't?) I assume you are pro-clean alternative energy as well.

    These are moot points, all commodities are produced and sold on the world market. The United States produces commodities and ships them to China, which are then made into junk you buy at Target and Walmart.
    I just do not understand the logic. We have energy, the US needs energy. We are giving you a commodity which you can produce and create jobs with.
    Alternative energies are not always as effective as you would like to think. For instance an electric car being run from energy from a coal fired power plant?
    I believe in making more energy efficient vehicles, but life without oil is never going to happen.
    But as I said previously, we can refine the oil here and sell it on the world market, and I would actually prefer that. Only we have communist politicians in British Columbia who for some reason want to block that as well.

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