Take Responsibility

QuarterToTen

for your actions. Why is this concept so hard for so many to comprehend?

When very clearly stated rules are not followed, please do not blame everyone else and then claim oppression or discrimination.

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I am truly sorry this young girl's prom night was ruined. But she, nor her parents, should blame anyone but themselves.

Cosmo

QuarterToTen wrote:

for your actions. Why is this concept so hard for so many to comprehend?

When very clearly stated rules are not followed, please do not blame everyone else and then claim oppression or discrimination.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/0 ... ostpopular

I am truly sorry this young girl's prom night was ruined. But she, nor her parents, should blame anyone but themselves.

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Welcome to America.
We think that rules are made for other people and the priority for me is always centered on being about me.
She read the rules... she was told to cover up... she DID cover up... she stayed for an hour... and SHE DECIDED to leave. She wasn't kicked out of the prom... she CHOSE to leave because her super massive mammalian fun bags weren't free to distract the hormone raging teenaged boys from her face.

PJ_Soul

QuarterToTen wrote:

for your actions. Why is this concept so hard for so many to comprehend?

When very clearly stated rules are not followed, please do not blame everyone else and then claim oppression or discrimination.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/0 ... ostpopular

I am truly sorry this young girl's prom night was ruined. But she, nor her parents, should blame anyone but themselves.

What?? Blame themselves for what?? That girl is wearing a perfectly normal dress, and her boobs are particularly huge, due to no fault of her own or her parents'. Are you saying that huge-chested women should be held to different standards than smaller chested women?? Because I guarantee you that a lot of other girls at the prom wore dresses with exactly the same cut and fit. They simply didn't have a lot of boob. There is no way to look any different than she did unless she wore a dress that is less revealing than what every other girl there was wearing. Do you know how hard it is to find a nice dress with a high bust line?? Almost impossible. And if the other didn't have to cover up their chests, then this girl shouldn't have had to, as though large breasts are obscene compared to smaller ones. I'm disgusted that a school would have done this to a student. It is CLEARLY discriminatory (not to mention painfully prudish!!).

Signed,
A woman with huge boobs and necessarily more cleavage than most of my counterparts while wearing normal clothes.

Cosmo

PJ_Soul wrote:

What?? Blame themselves for what?? That girl is wearing a perfectly normal dress, and her boobs are particularly huge, due to no fault of her own or her parents'. Are you saying that huge-chested women should be held to different standards than smaller chested women?? Because I guarantee you that a lot of other girls at the prom wore dresses with exactly the same cut and fit. They simply didn't have a lot of boob. There is no way to look any different than she did unless she wore a dress that is less revealing than what every other girl there was wearing. Do you know how hard it is to find a nice dress with a high bust line?? Almost impossible. And if the other didn't have to cover up their chests, then this girl shouldn't have had to, as though large breasts are obscene compared to smaller ones. I'm disgusted that a school would have done this to a student. It is CLEARLY discriminatory (not to mention painfully prudish!!).

Signed,
A woman with huge boobs

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The thing is... there was a dress code that stated excessive cleavage should be covered up. The people at the prom advised her that she needed to cover her cleavage with a shawl... to which, she complied and entered. She stayed at the prom for an hour and chose to leave. She was not asked to leave or forcibly ejected from the building. She made the decision to leave.
And whose to say she was singled out. There is no information about other girls bustlines in attendance. For all we know, there were other girls at the prom with large breasts, but wore dresses that conformed to the dress code.
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Note: I am not defending the school. i am just saying, the dress code was in place and this gal should have read them. I'm not saying she needs to wear a burlap sack, just something that would have conformed with the dress code.

PJ_Soul

Cosmo wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

What?? Blame themselves for what?? That girl is wearing a perfectly normal dress, and her boobs are particularly huge, due to no fault of her own or her parents'. Are you saying that huge-chested women should be held to different standards than smaller chested women?? Because I guarantee you that a lot of other girls at the prom wore dresses with exactly the same cut and fit. They simply didn't have a lot of boob. There is no way to look any different than she did unless she wore a dress that is less revealing than what every other girl there was wearing. Do you know how hard it is to find a nice dress with a high bust line?? Almost impossible. And if the other didn't have to cover up their chests, then this girl shouldn't have had to, as though large breasts are obscene compared to smaller ones. I'm disgusted that a school would have done this to a student. It is CLEARLY discriminatory (not to mention painfully prudish!!).

Signed,
A woman with huge boobs

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The thing is... there was a dress code that stated excessive cleavage should be covered up. The people at the prom advised her that she needed to cover her cleavage with a shawl... to which, she complied and entered. She stayed at the prom for an hour and chose to leave. She was not asked to leave or forcibly ejected from the building. She made the decision to leave.
And whose to say she was singled out. There is no information about other girls bustlines in attendance. For all we know, there were other girls at the prom with large breasts, but wore dresses that conformed to the dress code.
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Note: I am not defending the school. i am just saying, the dress code was in place and this gal should have read them. I'm not saying she needs to wear a burlap sack, just something that would have conformed with the dress code.

Yeah, she made the decision to leave, fine... she must have really hated how a blanket wrapped around her prom dress looked, and one can't blame her for that. But the school made a rule that she couldn't possibly comply with and still be equally compared to other students, and then enforced that rule. There is where the problem lies. It was a discriminatory rule that didn't take physiology vs appropriate clothing into account, and once they had a chance to take it into account, they chose not to. Not right IMO. Because other students there would have been wearing the same cut of dress, yet did not need to cover up just by virtue of their body shape, is what creates the problem. Someone with massive breasts just can't wear a normal ball gown with a normal neckline without a lot of cleavage showing. It's like banning a guy because he's got such a huge penis you can see it running down his pants leg. Hell, I'm wearing a regular Old Navy tank top right now, and I'm pretty sure the cleavage I've got showing right now would have had me banned for that school's prom.

rollings

QuarterToTen wrote:

for your actions. Why is this concept so hard for so many to comprehend?

When very clearly stated rules are not followed, please do not blame everyone else and then claim oppression or discrimination.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/0 ... ostpopular

I am truly sorry this young girl's prom night was ruined. But she, nor her parents, should blame anyone but themselves.

I agree!

if only all young girls with cleavage would just take responsbility for their cleavage already!

the world would be a much better place indeed without all them young girls with cleavage blaming everybody the hell else for their own damn fault of promly oppression

Cosmo

PJ_Soul wrote:

Yeah, she made the decision to leave, fine... she must have really hated how a blanket wrapped around her prom dress looked, and one can't blame her for that. But the school made a rule that she couldn't possibly comply with and still be equally compared to other students, and then enforced that rule. There is where the problem lies. It was a discriminatory rule that didn't take physiology vs appropriate clothing into account, and once they had a chance to take it into account, they chose not to. Not right IMO. Because other students there would have been wearing the same cut of dress, yet did not need to cover up just by virtue of their body shape, is what creates the problem. Someone with massive breasts just can't wear a normal ball gown with a normal neckline without a lot of cleavage showing. It's like banning a guy because he's got such a huge penis you can see it running down his pants leg. Hell, I'm wearing a regular Old Navy tank top right now, and I'm pretty sure the cleavage I've got showing right now would have had me banned for that school's prom.

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The dress code stated that sleeveless dresses are permitted as long as it covers up cleavage. A shawl must be worn if cleavage is shown. She clearly violated the dress code.
Now, maybe another girl with small breasts wore the same dress, but was not asked to cover up because no cleavage was showing. It is not discrimination because that girl was in compliance with the stated dress code.
There's also a dress code for the boys. The 'no shorts at the prom' rule would probably have him covered.

PJ_Soul

Cosmo wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

Yeah, she made the decision to leave, fine... she must have really hated how a blanket wrapped around her prom dress looked, and one can't blame her for that. But the school made a rule that she couldn't possibly comply with and still be equally compared to other students, and then enforced that rule. There is where the problem lies. It was a discriminatory rule that didn't take physiology vs appropriate clothing into account, and once they had a chance to take it into account, they chose not to. Not right IMO. Because other students there would have been wearing the same cut of dress, yet did not need to cover up just by virtue of their body shape, is what creates the problem. Someone with massive breasts just can't wear a normal ball gown with a normal neckline without a lot of cleavage showing. It's like banning a guy because he's got such a huge penis you can see it running down his pants leg. Hell, I'm wearing a regular Old Navy tank top right now, and I'm pretty sure the cleavage I've got showing right now would have had me banned for that school's prom.

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The dress code stated that sleeveless dresses are permitted as long as it covers up cleavage. A shawl must be worn if cleavage is shown. She clearly violated the dress code.
Now, maybe another girl with small breasts wore the same dress, but was not asked to cover up because no cleavage was showing. It is not discrimination because that girl was in compliance with the stated dress code.
There's also a dress code for the boys. The 'no shorts at the prom' rule would probably have him covered.

Well, that's my point. It is discriminatory to ask her to cover her cleavage. It puts an unfair burden on her (in that it would be close to impossible to find a prom dress that could cover her cleavage, and therefore forcing her to wear an extra piece of clothing that is not mandatory because of the shape of her body. meanwhile, most girts that age don't even HAVE cleavage), and forces her to wear different clothes than other people because of the shape of her body.
(and discrimination set aside, no fucking cleavage in a prom dress??? That's absolutely ridiculous in any case, unless there is an "unusually high neck line" store in town where everyone can shop?). Anyway, that's the perspective of someone with the same issue. I find it offensive.

Cosmo

PJ_Soul wrote:

Well, that's my point. It is discriminatory to ask her to cover her cleavage. It puts an unfair burden on her (in that it would be close to impossible to find a prom dress that could cover her cleavage, and therefore forcing her to wear an extra piece of clothing that is not mandatory because of the shape of her body), and forces her to wear different clothes than other people because of the shape of her body.
(and discrimination set aside, no fucking cleavage in a prom dress??? That's absolutely ridiculous in any case, unless there is an "unusually high neck line" store in town where everyone can shop?)

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i still don't see it as Discriminatory because it applies to all of the girls. Even the C cup girls have to comply.
I am guessing that the dress code is in place because of past occurances. Sort of like the 'Bra must be worn as an undergarment, not a shirt' rule because of the Madonna days. And the 'Boys must pull your fucking pants because you look like a fucking fool.. and besides, how are you going to run away from the cops' rule because of guys wearing their pants at the bottom of their asses.

PJ_Soul

Cosmo wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

Well, that's my point. It is discriminatory to ask her to cover her cleavage. It puts an unfair burden on her (in that it would be close to impossible to find a prom dress that could cover her cleavage, and therefore forcing her to wear an extra piece of clothing that is not mandatory because of the shape of her body), and forces her to wear different clothes than other people because of the shape of her body.
(and discrimination set aside, no fucking cleavage in a prom dress??? That's absolutely ridiculous in any case, unless there is an "unusually high neck line" store in town where everyone can shop?)

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i still don't see it as Discriminatory because it applies to all of the girls. Even the C cup girls have to comply.
I am guessing that the dress code is in place because of past occurances. Sort of like the 'Bra must be worn as an undergarment, not a shirt' rule because of the Madonna days. And the 'Boys must pull your fucking pants because you look like a fucking fool.. and besides, how are you going to run away from the cops' rule because of guys wearing their pants at the bottom of their asses.

If all girls' dresses had a higher neckline I'd agree with you. But I can guarantee you that that isn't the case. They made a rule that would have forced this student to dress differently than others, and I don't think that's fair. (and that is no C cup... more like E cup ).

Cosmo

PJ_Soul wrote:

If all girls' dresses had a higher neckline I'd agree with you. But I can guarantee you that that isn't the case. They made a rule that would have forced this student to dress differently than others, and I don't think that's fair. (and that is no C cup... more like E cup ).

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But, I'm pretty sure she could find a nice dress that fulfilled the requirments. She chose not to comply and is now demanding an apology.
That is the thing that bothers me. And the parents, too. I don't blame them for being ignorant to the dress code prior to the event... but, after reading the clearly stated requirements, they should have seen that the dress did not comply.
The whole thing sounds like a show to gain publicity. And that is what i take issue with... everyone wanting some sort of 'celebrity' theses days. The easiest way is the claim to be a victim of something.
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Also, i'm pretty good with cup sizes... I would have guessed hers to be in the Elemenopy (LMNOP) range. They are pretty massive... I wouldn't be surprised if there were moons orbiting them.

PJ_Soul

Cosmo wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

If all girls' dresses had a higher neckline I'd agree with you. But I can guarantee you that that isn't the case. They made a rule that would have forced this student to dress differently than others, and I don't think that's fair. (and that is no C cup... more like E cup ).

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But, I'm pretty sure she could find a nice dress that fulfilled the requirments. She chose not to comply and is now demanding an apology.
That is the thing that bothers me. And the parents, too. I don't blame them for being ignorant to the dress code prior to the event... but, after reading the clearly stated requirements, they should have seen that the dress did not comply.
The whole thing sounds like a show to gain publicity. And that is what i take issue with... everyone wanting some sort of 'celebrity' theses days. The easiest way is the claim to be a victim of something.
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Also, i'm pretty good with cup sizes... I would have guessed hers to be in the Elemenopy (LMNOP) range. They are pretty massive... I wouldn't be surprised if there were moons orbiting them.

Well, all I know is that girls with small boobs don't even have any cleavage. Therefore, their dress code (no cleavage allowed) discriminated against large-breasted/cleavage-having girls. The flatter chested girls could wear low-cut because they don't have cleavage, and the larger breasted girls couldn't. That, to me, is discrimination. That the girl decided to break the dress code is really neither here nor there. It's the rule that pisses me off.

Cosmo

PJ_Soul wrote:

Well, all I know is that girls with small boobs don't even have any cleavage. Therefore, their dress code (no cleavage allowed) discriminated against large-breasted/cleavage-having girls. The flatter chested girls could wear low-cut because they don't have cleavage, and the larger breasted girls couldn't. That, to me, is discrimination. That the girl decided to break the dress code is really neither here nor there. It's the rule that pisses me off.

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I still think the rule is in place because girls in the past had tits flying all akimbo on the dance floor. With teen aged boys in the room.. probably not a good mix.

PJ_Soul

Cosmo wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

Well, all I know is that girls with small boobs don't even have any cleavage. Therefore, their dress code (no cleavage allowed) discriminated against large-breasted/cleavage-having girls. The flatter chested girls could wear low-cut because they don't have cleavage, and the larger breasted girls couldn't. That, to me, is discrimination. That the girl decided to break the dress code is really neither here nor there. It's the rule that pisses me off.

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I still think the rule is in place because girls in the past had tits flying all akimbo on the dance floor. With teen aged boys in the room.. probably not a good mix.

Yeah, the dances probably turned into mass orgies because of tits flying all akimbo.

JBii

fuck its cleavage :fp: dumb

riotgrl

Gotta say, I'm a bit torn on this subject. First, have you been to a high school lately? These girls dress like trash with anything and everything hanging out. Somehow that's sexy, I suppose. It's a school dance not a club and the school is responsible for anything and everything that happens there which is the reason there is such strict control over dress code. I chaperoned a prom 2 years ago at the school I teach at and I'm not real keen to do it again anytime soon. You have groups of kids that will surround another couple so they can fuck on the dance floor - true story - try having to be the one to stop that :evil: I know how difficult it can be to find a dress that covers up a fair amount of cleavage but really part of her problem was an ill fit. When you have such large breasts you need a decent bra and good alterations and she clearly had neither. It is unfortunate that large breasted and/or heavy women have to alter clothes or make concessions because we don't conform to the typical sizes located at a store but it is a fact of life. These kids know the rules and part of being a teenager is constantly pushing the rules to see what they can get away with and she chose to leave because she didn't want to abide by the rules. The dress code at my high school is really strict and I tell the kids all the time they CHOOSE (and yes in my district my school is a choice, they can transfer out anytime) to go here therefore you choose to follow the rules or suffer the consequences.

brianlux

riotgrl wrote:

Gotta say, I'm a bit torn on this subject. First, have you been to a high school lately? These girls dress like trash with anything and everything hanging out. Somehow that's sexy, I suppose. It's a school dance not a club and the school is responsible for anything and everything that happens there which is the reason there is such strict control over dress code. I chaperoned a prom 2 years ago at the school I teach at and I'm not real keen to do it again anytime soon. You have groups of kids that will surround another couple so they can fuck on the dance floor - true story - try having to be the one to stop that :evil: I know how difficult it can be to find a dress that covers up a fair amount of cleavage but really part of her problem was an ill fit. When you have such large breasts you need a decent bra and good alterations and she clearly had neither. It is unfortunate that large breasted and/or heavy women have to alter clothes or make concessions because we don't conform to the typical sizes located at a store but it is a fact of life. These kids know the rules and part of being a teenager is constantly pushing the rules to see what they can get away with and she chose to leave because she didn't want to abide by the rules. The dress code at my high school is really strict and I tell the kids all the time they CHOOSE (and yes in my district my school is a choice, they can transfer out anytime) to go here therefore you choose to follow the rules or suffer the consequences.

Yeah, that seems right to me, riotgrl. When I taught middle and high school kids some of the girls seemed confused about the difference between looking (or even acting) sexy vs. trashy made more trouble for themselves than good pursuing either one.

That said, I can see arguments for both sides but basically it's like the "Annoy a Cop, Go to Prison" thing- if you do what is acceptable, you'll more often get what you want and if what you want is to buck the rules, be wild, express you inner anarchist, let you boobs hang out, wear sandals*, or what ever, I say go for it but within reason, do harm to no one, and accept what comes. I think that goes back to the thread title, "Take Responsibility".

*This is no joke: when I was in middle school boys were not allowed to wear sandals. The latest craze was to wear huaraches on your feet. If it was cool out and you were super cool inside you wore huaraches over surfer sox with two stripes across the top. But huaraches were against school rules and only the most daring pre-hippie surfers wore the sandals to school... and got sent home. As far as boobs hanging out, we boys only imagined it, never actually saw it and probably would just have acted stupid if we had.

callen

:fp:

Hugh Freaking Dillon

PJ_Soul wrote:

Well, all I know is that girls with small boobs don't even have any cleavage. Therefore, their dress code (no cleavage allowed) discriminated against large-breasted/cleavage-having girls. The flatter chested girls could wear low-cut because they don't have cleavage, and the larger breasted girls couldn't. That, to me, is discrimination. That the girl decided to break the dress code is really neither here nor there. It's the rule that pisses me off.

I can't believe you are arguing against this ruling. it's not discrimination of any kind. it's called wearing clothing that is appropriate for your body type. it would be no more acceptable for a smaller chested woman to wear this girl's dress and be able to see all of her cleavage, no matter how little she has.

this is ridiculous. wear clothes that fit you and there's no problem. women with very large breasts have many tasteful options available to them. strapless ain't one of them.

there was a dress code in place, which to me is awesome, she went against it, they helped her alter what she was wearing so it complied, and she took a fit.

the fault rests squarely on this girl, not to mention her parents for thinking this dress was appropriate, knowing the rules.

PJ_Soul

Well look at it another way - if a guy undid his shirt a couple of buttons would have been kicked out? As someone who lives in a place where it is discriminatory to make women being topless in public, I think it's the same issue here. If anyone else was showing the same area of their body as this girl was (and we know they were) then this is discriminatory. (Not to say that the girl looked good, because clearly that dress looked terrible on her - that isn't the point). Simply, any rule that specifically bans cleavage is. If they didn't want to be discriminatory, they should have said in the dress code that necklines had to be a maximum of 6 inches from the neck or something like that.

rollings

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

Well, all I know is that girls with small boobs don't even have any cleavage. Therefore, their dress code (no cleavage allowed) discriminated against large-breasted/cleavage-having girls. The flatter chested girls could wear low-cut because they don't have cleavage, and the larger breasted girls couldn't. That, to me, is discrimination. That the girl decided to break the dress code is really neither here nor there. It's the rule that pisses me off.

I can't believe you are arguing against this ruling. it's not discrimination of any kind. it's called wearing clothing that is appropriate for your body type. it would be no more acceptable for a smaller chested woman to wear this girl's dress and be able to see all of her cleavage, no matter how little she has.

this is ridiculous. wear clothes that fit you and there's no problem. women with very large breasts have many tasteful options available to them. strapless ain't one of them.

there was a dress code in place, which to me is awesome, she went against it, they helped her alter what she was wearing so it complied, and she took a fit.

the fault rests squarely on this girl, not to mention her parents for thinking this dress was appropriate, knowing the rules.

and you know where

Hugh Freaking Dillon

PJ_Soul wrote:

Well look at it another way - if a guy undid his shirt a couple of buttons would have been kicked out? As someone who lives in a place where it is discriminatory to make women being topless in public, I think it's the same issue here. If anyone else was showing the same area of their body as this girl was (and we know they were) then this is discriminatory. (Not to say that the girl looked good, because clearly that dress looked terrible on her - that isn't the point). Simply, any rule that specifically bans cleavage is. If they didn't want to be discriminatory, they should have said in the dress code that necklines had to be a maximum of 6 inches from the neck or something like that.

seriously. seriously. comparing a guy's chest with a woman's. seriously. it's a HIGH SCHOOL with TEENAGERS, not a folk festival.

the girls has a lot of cleavage. and showing it off is against the dress code. how is that discriminatory? if I was wearing skin tight bike shorts to school, they probably wouldn't complain. but if one of my, heh hem, overly blessed friends were wearing the same thing, the librarian would have fainted. discriminatory? NOPE. it's called dressing appropriately for your body type.

PJ_Soul

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

Well look at it another way - if a guy undid his shirt a couple of buttons would have been kicked out? As someone who lives in a place where it is discriminatory to make women being topless in public, I think it's the same issue here. If anyone else was showing the same area of their body as this girl was (and we know they were) then this is discriminatory. (Not to say that the girl looked good, because clearly that dress looked terrible on her - that isn't the point). Simply, any rule that specifically bans cleavage is. If they didn't want to be discriminatory, they should have said in the dress code that necklines had to be a maximum of 6 inches from the neck or something like that.

seriously. seriously. comparing a guy's chest with a woman's. seriously. it's a HIGH SCHOOL with TEENAGERS, not a folk festival.

the girls has a lot of cleavage. and showing it off is against the dress code. how is that discriminatory? if I was wearing skin tight bike shorts to school, they probably wouldn't complain. but if one of my, heh hem, overly blessed friends were wearing the same thing, the librarian would have fainted. discriminatory? NOPE. it's called dressing appropriately for your body type.

Seriously, seriously. It is LAW that men and women's chests are comparable where I live, and if anyone is interested in complete equality, that is how it must be for equality to exist. Our courts have figured that out, and others will have to follow eventually. So I am not sure why find it so hard to comprehend or why you are talking about folk festivals.
Making rules that are subject to having a particular body type and not others is pretty much the definition of discrimination. Now I can't believe that you're not understanding that. What you're saying is like making a rule that skinny girls can wear skirts that stop 3 inches above the knee, but fat girls have to wear them 3 inches below the knee, because shorter skirts aren't appropriate for their body type. That is discriminatory. You are thinking like a fashion consultant or the high school modesty police, when I think one should be looking at this issue like a lawyer.

Also, I am really sick of the onus being on women to dress in a way that guys can "handle". That's the same kind of thinking that brought around the existence of bhurkas for crying out loud. Breasts are actually for feeding babies, and I think the idea that cleavage is considered inappropriate or objectionable is offensive. If men get turned on or distracted by some cleavage that's their problem. The responsibility should not be layed on women with cleavage. You're talking as though we're discussing a girl who showed up with her nipples poking through two holes she cut in her dress. It's just cleavage. Again, if they seriously don't want it, then the rule should be no neck lines more than 5 inches from the neck. Singling put those with cleavage is discriminatory.

Also, I can't believe you could think that your spandex scenario is reasonable. If one guy can wear them, then all guys can, no matter what their penis size is. Anything else would also be discriminatory (and honeatly, a guy with a tiny penis in bike shorts is much more objectionable that a guy with a large penia in bike shorts IMHO, har har har ).

JonnyPistachio

PJ_Soul wrote:

Signed,
A woman with huge boobs and necessarily more cleavage than most of my counterparts while wearing normal clothes.

Well hello there.

hedonist

I don't think this really is about big tits, body type, penii in spandex...

It's about - least from what I've read - agreeing to abide by certain guidelines.

Not meant to sound harsh, but if one can't abide by them? Then don't agree to them.

Simple as that.

(this, too, from a chick with perhaps not-huge-boobs, but noticable ones. I didn't do my prom thing but if I did? Would deal with it)

PJ_Soul

hedonist wrote:

I don't think this really is about big tits, body type, penii in spandex...

It's about - least from what I've read - agreeing to abide by certain guidelines.

Not meant to sound harsh, but if one can't abide by them? Then don't agree to them.

Simple as that.

(this, too, from a chick with perhaps not-huge-boobs, but noticable ones. I didn't do my prom thing but if I did? Would deal with it)

I would too. And I don't walk around with most of my tits hanging out either. I'm modest. But I also think that any rules that a school comes up with can't be discriminatory in any way, and I think their particular dress code is. I don't think it's about whether or not someone follows the rules, but about the rule itself.

PJ_Soul

JonnyPistachio wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

Signed,
A woman with huge boobs and necessarily more cleavage than most of my counterparts while wearing normal clothes.

Well hello there.

:wave:

aerial

hedonist wrote:

I don't think this really is about big tits, body type, penii in spandex...

It's about - least from what I've read - agreeing to abide by certain guidelines.

Not meant to sound harsh, but if one can't abide by them? Then don't agree to them.

Simple as that.

(this, too, from a chick with perhaps not-huge-boobs, but noticable ones. I didn't do my prom thing but if I did? Would deal with it)

Huge boobs compared to noticeable ones are apples and cantaloupes.... a life of carrying around two cantaloupes on your chest is not much fun............ someone suggested altering the dress but that doesn't work...how can you alter something when the fabric is not there to alter?.....
P. J. is right it is vary hard to find tops or dresses that cover up the whole boob when you are a large as she is...I agree it is a form of discrimination.....and boys NEED to learn to control themselves.....and act like gentlemen...

aerial

aerial wrote:

hedonist wrote:

I don't think this really is about big tits, body type, penii in spandex...

It's about - least from what I've read - agreeing to abide by certain guidelines.

Not meant to sound harsh, but if one can't abide by them? Then don't agree to them.

Simple as that.

(this, too, from a chick with perhaps not-huge-boobs, but noticable ones. I didn't do my prom thing but if I did? Would deal with it)

Huge boobs compared to noticeable ones are apples and cantaloupes.... a life of carrying around two cantaloupes on your chest is not much fun............ someone suggested altering the dress but that doesn't work...how can you alter something when the fabric is not there to alter?.....
P. J. is right it is very hard to find tops or dresses that cover up the whole boob when you are as large as she is...I agree it is a form of discrimination.....and boys NEED to learn to control themselves.....and act like gentlemen...

Cosmo

hedonist wrote:

I don't think this really is about big tits, body type, penii in spandex...

It's about - least from what I've read - agreeing to abide by certain guidelines.

Not meant to sound harsh, but if one can't abide by them? Then don't agree to them.

Simple as that.

(this, too, from a chick with perhaps not-huge-boobs, but noticable ones. I didn't do my prom thing but if I did? Would deal with it)

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That is the bottom line... the dress code was in place before the Prom.
The girls was not turned away from entry to the Prom.
The Prom staff assisted the girl in compliance with the dress code.
The girl was allowed into the Prom.
She stayed at the Prom of an hour.
She DECIDED to leave the Prom... she was not ejected from it.
...
She wants an apology for HER reaction... for HER decision to leave.
Her parents are fucking assholes and should take on the role as parents and welcome her to life.... with the rest of us by telling her that the Dress Code was being enforced and she is not above the rules... for whatever excuse she comes up with.

PJ_Soul

Cosmo wrote:

hedonist wrote:

I don't think this really is about big tits, body type, penii in spandex...

It's about - least from what I've read - agreeing to abide by certain guidelines.

Not meant to sound harsh, but if one can't abide by them? Then don't agree to them.

Simple as that.

(this, too, from a chick with perhaps not-huge-boobs, but noticable ones. I didn't do my prom thing but if I did? Would deal with it)

...
That is the bottom line... the dress code was in place before the Prom.
The girls was not turned away from entry to the Prom.
The Prom staff assisted the girl in compliance with the dress code.
The girl was allowed into the Prom.
She stayed at the Prom of an hour.
She DECIDED to leave the Prom... she was not ejected from it.
...
She wants an apology for HER reaction... for HER decision to leave.
Her parents are fucking assholes and should take on the role as parents and welcome her to life.... with the rest of us by telling her that the Dress Code was being enforced and she is not above the rules... for whatever excuse she comes up with.

But again, all of that is totally besides the point. I personally don't give a flying fuck about whether or not this chick enjoyed her prom or whether or not she disobeyed the dress code. It's the rule - the dress code itself - and the attitude behind that particular rule that bother me.