oh shit, i thought we were talking about real pain meds
i'm sorry weed hasn't worked on your pain allie, but for me and millions of others it's the only thing keeping us going...and if can help dogs or cats then they should have it too...as for the "hallucinations" well, i've seen my dog on "legal" pain meds and just by looking at him, i don't think the weed would be any different
I understand that it does work for some. I believe it works for some because those people get high and are "feeling no pain" so to speak, and perhaps it has an actual chemical effect on people's pain receptors. But not mine, and not millions of others I'm sure. So while it works for many, which is great, it also doesn't work for many. To me, that means it's not what the medical community can really call effective pain medication. It simply isn't reliable enough for them to call it that. I don't mean to say that if it does work for someone they shouldn't use it. They absolutely should, and I support medical marijuana programs - luckily, the side effects of weed are negligible at worst, so unlike with other medications, there is no reason to restrict this one just because it doesn't work on a lot of people or makes a lot of people feel uncomfortable. However, since we have NO idea how it affects individual animals or their pain, and no good way of finding out, I think right now it's irresponsible to be giving weed to pets.
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advil, tylenol, hell Vicodin doesn't work for me...should we stop giving it to the people it works for?
oh and this
those people get high and are "feeling no pain" so to speak
is complete bullshit...i still feel the pain but it's overwhelmed by "good feeling" that comes from the "high"
seriously, not everybody who smokes pot is jeff spicoli
and how do vets know how the current meds affect dogs? since as you claim they can't know how pot affects dogs?
But advil and vicodin does generally work for particular levels of pain is the point. For me, local anesthetic isn't very effective - they have to use 3 times more for me than most people. But I still consider it and the way it's normally administered a legit pain killer, because I'm in a small minority there.
I have no idea why you seem to be getting mad (and yeah, I smoke pot, and I'm not Jeff Spicoli either, and acknowledged that it may well inhibit pain receptors), since I spoke in support of using weed as pain medication and programs that support it. I'm arguing against using it for pets.
I'm not making an argument FOR other meds for pets. I'm just saying it seem irresponsible to just start giving weed to your dog simply because people use it. I would say the same thing if we were talking about feeding Advil or Vicodin to dogs too, BTW. Just because you don't go giving drugs to pets just because people take them. There is no scientific research to suggest that weed is okay for pets or that it helps them for pain. For other pet meds, research has been done, studies carried out. Not so for weed. Marijuana falls under the category of alternative medicine. It's herbal. It shouldn't even be prescribed by doctors (I mean, for the time being it has to be because of the law, but that should not be the case). That's the first step to the fucking prescription drug companies getting in on it, and god knows no one wants that, so it would serve people who use it for pain to not try and insist that weed is a legit pain medicine for use in the mainstream medical profession IMHO. Next thing you know, it will cost $40 a gram.
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i don't understand why studies take 10 years. they should have been studying this for animals when they began studying the effects on humans.
dogs can not tell you when they are in pain. you can observe them and objectively know when they are in pain. my dog had hip dysplasia and arthritis. he took an anti inflammatory called duralactin, and if he missed a day or two of that he would lie around and limp around. when he took it he would run and jump around like nothing was wrong. it had side effects of gi upset and diarrhea so he had a lot of accidents in the house the last 8 months or so. he also had the dog equivalent of celebrex, which also helped, but at $90 for 20 pills it was not very cost effective. i would not have been opposed to trying the cannabis oil to be put on his skin. it would not have hurt anything. then again, i have patients that smoke medical marijuana every day with good results and no negative side effects.
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pretty much :(
advil, tylenol, hell Vicodin doesn't work for me...should we stop giving it to the people it works for?
oh and this
is complete bullshit...i still feel the pain but it's overwhelmed by "good feeling" that comes from the "high"
seriously, not everybody who smokes pot is jeff spicoli
and how do vets know how the current meds affect dogs? since as you claim they can't know how pot affects dogs?
I have no idea why you seem to be getting mad (and yeah, I smoke pot, and I'm not Jeff Spicoli either, and acknowledged that it may well inhibit pain receptors), since I spoke in support of using weed as pain medication and programs that support it. I'm arguing against using it for pets.
I'm not making an argument FOR other meds for pets. I'm just saying it seem irresponsible to just start giving weed to your dog simply because people use it. I would say the same thing if we were talking about feeding Advil or Vicodin to dogs too, BTW. Just because you don't go giving drugs to pets just because people take them. There is no scientific research to suggest that weed is okay for pets or that it helps them for pain. For other pet meds, research has been done, studies carried out. Not so for weed. Marijuana falls under the category of alternative medicine. It's herbal. It shouldn't even be prescribed by doctors (I mean, for the time being it has to be because of the law, but that should not be the case). That's the first step to the fucking prescription drug companies getting in on it, and god knows no one wants that, so it would serve people who use it for pain to not try and insist that weed is a legit pain medicine for use in the mainstream medical profession IMHO. Next thing you know, it will cost $40 a gram.
dogs can not tell you when they are in pain. you can observe them and objectively know when they are in pain. my dog had hip dysplasia and arthritis. he took an anti inflammatory called duralactin, and if he missed a day or two of that he would lie around and limp around. when he took it he would run and jump around like nothing was wrong. it had side effects of gi upset and diarrhea so he had a lot of accidents in the house the last 8 months or so. he also had the dog equivalent of celebrex, which also helped, but at $90 for 20 pills it was not very cost effective. i would not have been opposed to trying the cannabis oil to be put on his skin. it would not have hurt anything. then again, i have patients that smoke medical marijuana every day with good results and no negative side effects.
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