Alex Jones pushes tornado truther theory.....

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For all you government conspiracy theorists.....
Alex Jones pushes tornado truther theory: ‘There’s weather weapon stuff going on’


Conspiracy talk show host Alex Jones, increasingly a favorite of conservative media for his extremely vocal support of gun rights, outed himself Tuesday as a tornado truther by telling a caller on his show, “Of course there’s weather weapons stuff going on.”

Jones, a longtime proponent of the idea that the U.S. government can manipulate and even produce weather systems like tornadoes and hurricanes, went on to say that if people saw helicopters or small aircraft in the area, then “you better bet your bottom dollar they did this...”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/22/alex-jones-pushes-tornado-truther-theory-theres-weather-weapon-stuff-going-on/

:shock: :corn:

chadwick

HARRP out of Alaska. check it out.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

how this guy has a fucking radio/tv show and has a devoted following is VERY scarey.

Halifax2TheMax

Jump the shark, anyone?

Peace.

nothing_man_92

chadwick wrote:

HARRP out of Alaska. check it out.

Crazy stuff going on there

Halifax2TheMax

nothing_man_92 wrote:

chadwick wrote:

HARRP out of Alaska. check it out.

Crazy stuff going on there

What's crazy about it?

Peace.

even flow - question mark

What Jones thinks, he thinks. But if they've been able to cloud seed from at least the 70's....you don't think that they may not be able to pull something like this off.

Just remember........if you think your cell phone is cool and they let you have one of those. What does the military have.

Jason P

C.O.B.R.A. was able to pull this off in an old episode of GI Joe.

Seems plausable. Perhaps Obama is an X-men.

hedonist

Jason P wrote:

C.O.B.R.A. was able to pull this off in an old episode of GI Joe.

Seems plausable. Perhaps Obama is an X-men.

McCartney employed a similar (reverse?) technique when he played Red Square in 2004!

JimmyV

This is how Alex Jones makes money. His followers should remember that.

Cosmo

The lunatic is on the air.
The lunatic is on the air.
He'll raise the fear, tell you it is here,
He'll re-arrange truth 'till it's unclear.
You lock the door,
And lock and load your gun,
There's someone at the gates... no where to run.

And if the lies he tells ring truthful in your ear,
We shout, but you don't seem to hear.
And if your television sings a different tune,
I'll see you on the dark side of the Moon.

chadwick

Halifax2TheMax wrote:

nothing_man_92 wrote:

chadwick wrote:

HARRP out of Alaska. check it out.

Crazy stuff going on there

What's crazy about it?

Peace.

go do your research & tell us what the heck is not crazy about it. HAARP heats up the atmosphere way the fuck up there & they are fully capable of changing the weather & so much more. harrp can cause earth quakes, tsunamis, flooding, knock aircraft out of the sky, communicate with submarines, kill flocks of birds, and cause what appears to be the aurora borealis where there isn't or hasn't ever been a northern lights lightshow

Cosmo

chadwick wrote:

go do your research & tell us what the heck is not crazy about it. HAARP heats up the atmosphere way the fuck up there & they are fully capable of changing the weather & so much more. harrp can cause earth quakes, tsunamis, flooding, knock aircraft out of the sky, communicate with submarines, kill flocks of birds, and cause what appears to be the aurora borealis where there isn't or hasn't ever been a northern lights lightshow

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Just to calm your nerves...
The High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program, or HAARP—the 180-antenna array that became fully operational in 2007 when the defense-systems contractor BAE finished installing transmitters—is nothing more sinister than a research station. And now, 21 years after construction on the station began, HAARP’s managers are seeing what the fully powered system can do; most recently, they’ve begun zapping the moon with the hope of determining the composition of its soil. “It’s up, it runs, it performs beautifully,” says Ed Kennedy, the former HAARP program manager for the Naval Research Lab. “HAARP is a great example of a project that from start to finish stayed on schedule and on budget.”

HAARP’s purpose is to study the ionosphere (the section of the atmosphere beginning about 50 miles up in which ultraviolet radiation temporarily strips atoms of their electrons), the magnetosphere (the region in space above the ionosphere where the Earth’s magnetic field affects the behavior of charged particles) and the Van Allen radiation belts (bands of highly charged particles contained in the magnetosphere beginning some 400 miles up). Scientists are interested in the ionosphere because of its ability to affect radio signals; the Van Allen belt, because the radiation there damages satellites, and a better understanding of it could lead to ways to make satellites last longer. “It’s an open plasma-physics laboratory,” says Dennis Papadopoulos, a physics professor at the University of Maryland who helped conceive the idea for HAARP with the Naval Research Lab more than 30 years ago. “You test ideas and scientific theories. Then, if something’s important to the Department of Defense, you apply it.”

Side fact: Radio waves travel in straight lines, but the Earth isn’t flat, so sending radio signals to the other side of the world is tricky. HAARP’s findings could lead to ways to extend the range of radio signals by creating irregularities in the ionosphere that would bounce signals across long distances.

even flow - question mark

Cosmo wrote:

chadwick wrote:

go do your research & tell us what the heck is not crazy about it. HAARP heats up the atmosphere way the fuck up there & they are fully capable of changing the weather & so much more. harrp can cause earth quakes, tsunamis, flooding, knock aircraft out of the sky, communicate with submarines, kill flocks of birds, and cause what appears to be the aurora borealis where there isn't or hasn't ever been a northern lights lightshow

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Just to calm your nerves...
The High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program, or HAARP—the 180-antenna array that became fully operational in 2007 when the defense-systems contractor BAE finished installing transmitters—is nothing more sinister than a research station. And now, 21 years after construction on the station began, HAARP’s managers are seeing what the fully powered system can do; most recently, they’ve begun zapping the moon with the hope of determining the composition of its soil. “It’s up, it runs, it performs beautifully,” says Ed Kennedy, the former HAARP program manager for the Naval Research Lab. “HAARP is a great example of a project that from start to finish stayed on schedule and on budget.”

HAARP’s purpose is to study the ionosphere (the section of the atmosphere beginning about 50 miles up in which ultraviolet radiation temporarily strips atoms of their electrons), the magnetosphere (the region in space above the ionosphere where the Earth’s magnetic field affects the behavior of charged particles) and the Van Allen radiation belts (bands of highly charged particles contained in the magnetosphere beginning some 400 miles up). Scientists are interested in the ionosphere because of its ability to affect radio signals; the Van Allen belt, because the radiation there damages satellites, and a better understanding of it could lead to ways to make satellites last longer. “It’s an open plasma-physics laboratory,” says Dennis Papadopoulos, a physics professor at the University of Maryland who helped conceive the idea for HAARP with the Naval Research Lab more than 30 years ago. “You test ideas and scientific theories. Then, if something’s important to the Department of Defense, you apply it.”

Side fact: Radio waves travel in straight lines, but the Earth isn’t flat, so sending radio signals to the other side of the world is tricky. HAARP’s findings could lead to ways to extend the range of radio signals by creating irregularities in the ionosphere that would bounce signals across long distances.

And this dispels what?

Einstein's theory was peaceful until they decided to use it for different reasons!

chadwick

and when they fired it up one time there so happened to be a grounds worker or a scientist (or whoever he was) was under harrp antennas & it fried him like chicken

once more i'll say... i do not trust much of what the government says

have a beautiful day, sir

chadwick

even flow - question mark wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

chadwick wrote:

go do your research & tell us what the heck is not crazy about it. HAARP heats up the atmosphere way the fuck up there & they are fully capable of changing the weather & so much more. harrp can cause earth quakes, tsunamis, flooding, knock aircraft out of the sky, communicate with submarines, kill flocks of birds, and cause what appears to be the aurora borealis where there isn't or hasn't ever been a northern lights lightshow

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Just to calm your nerves...
The High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program, or HAARP—the 180-antenna array that became fully operational in 2007 when the defense-systems contractor BAE finished installing transmitters—is nothing more sinister than a research station. And now, 21 years after construction on the station began, HAARP’s managers are seeing what the fully powered system can do; most recently, they’ve begun zapping the moon with the hope of determining the composition of its soil. “It’s up, it runs, it performs beautifully,” says Ed Kennedy, the former HAARP program manager for the Naval Research Lab. “HAARP is a great example of a project that from start to finish stayed on schedule and on budget.”

HAARP’s purpose is to study the ionosphere (the section of the atmosphere beginning about 50 miles up in which ultraviolet radiation temporarily strips atoms of their electrons), the magnetosphere (the region in space above the ionosphere where the Earth’s magnetic field affects the behavior of charged particles) and the Van Allen radiation belts (bands of highly charged particles contained in the magnetosphere beginning some 400 miles up). Scientists are interested in the ionosphere because of its ability to affect radio signals; the Van Allen belt, because the radiation there damages satellites, and a better understanding of it could lead to ways to make satellites last longer. “It’s an open plasma-physics laboratory,” says Dennis Papadopoulos, a physics professor at the University of Maryland who helped conceive the idea for HAARP with the Naval Research Lab more than 30 years ago. “You test ideas and scientific theories. Then, if something’s important to the Department of Defense, you apply it.”

Side fact: Radio waves travel in straight lines, but the Earth isn’t flat, so sending radio signals to the other side of the world is tricky. HAARP’s findings could lead to ways to extend the range of radio signals by creating irregularities in the ionosphere that would bounce signals across long distances.

And this dispels what?

Einstein's theory was peaceful until they decided to use it for different reasons!

i would kiss you if you were here near me

Cosmo

even flow - question mark wrote:

And this dispells what?

Einstein's theory was peaceful until they decided to use it for different reasons!

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Dispells the whole weather machine thing.
The purpose or intent is to be able to maintain communications uplinks for military weapons systems during solar activity that may/will knock satellite communications systems offline. You want all of your stand guard weapons systems to be in full communications with its command and control centers. So, i suppose the theory about communications with submarines is correct, becuse you want communications with vessels roaming the oceans, carrying nuclear tipped Polaris missiles.

chadwick

harrp is fully capable of changing weather patterns. I once (or five times) heard & read that in the future wars will be fought by changing the enemies weather. they been mind storming this concept a long time

Cosmo

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Trust me. If this were a sinister weapons system, it would remain in the realm of the DoD Black Programs Office and we, including many members of Congress, would not even know of its existance.

chadwick

Cosmo wrote:

Add...
Trust me. If this were a sinister weapons system, it would remain in the realm of the DoD Black Programs Office and we, including many members of Congress, would not even know of its existance.

"And this dispels what?

Einstein's theory was peaceful until they decided to use it for different reasons!" - even flow - question mark

even flow - question mark

Cosmo wrote:

even flow - question mark wrote:

And this dispells what?

Einstein's theory was peaceful until they decided to use it for different reasons!

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Dispells the whole weather machine thing.
The purpose or intent is to be able to maintain communications uplinks for military weapons systems during solar activity that may/will knock satellite communications systems offline. You want all of your stand guard weapons systems to be in full communications with its command and control centers. So, i suppose the theory about communications with submarines is correct, becuse you want communications with vessels roaming the oceans, carrying nuclear tipped Polaris missiles.

Don't get me wrong Cosmo, I believe that everything starts off with good intentions, but unfortunately things go sour most times. The person researching chemicals probably has not inkling that their research is going to end up wiping out people via a chemical weapon. But hey, thanks for coming up with that. Same with Einstein, same with what you are telling me about what the research behind this is. Do you really think they'd inform people who are not on the inside about other intentions. Like I said earlier, nice little cell phone you have, what do you think the military has.

Cosmo

chadwick wrote:

harrp is fully capable of changing weather patterns. I once (or five times) heard & read that in the future wars will be fought by changing the enemies weather. they been mind storming this concept a long time

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That would be nice... controlling the weather. Cause a tidal wave to swamp an enemy's naval stations... send a tornado to wipe out your opponent's strategic bomber bases... cause earthquakes in your adversary's underground intercontinental baliastic missile silos...
The problem is... the weather. It is controlled by the natural ordered chaos of the Spaceship Earth. It is a huge thing to control the planet. The weather is caused by the Earth's motion and orbit of the Moon... to change the weather, you need the ability to control the natural movement of the planet.
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I think the best we can do today is seed the clouds to make rain... but, you need to have clouds, first. In order to 'create' clouds, you need entire fields of giant ionizers to generate waves of negative ions which rise into the lower atmosphere and attract dust particles. The dust particles, in turn, attract condensation from the ambient air... clouds.
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In order stop (a Soviet or Chinese) weather machine... kill the giant, undefensable stationary machine. A satellite directed air launched cruise missile should do the trick.

josevolution

Cosmo wrote:

chadwick wrote:

harrp is fully capable of changing weather patterns. I once (or five times) heard & read that in the future wars will be fought by changing the enemies weather. they been mind storming this concept a long time

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That would be nice... controlling the weather. Cause a tidal wave to swamp an enemy's naval stations... send a tornado to wipe out your opponent's strategic bomber bases... cause earthquakes in your adversary's underground intercontinental baliastic missile silos...
The problem is... the weather. It is controlled by the natural ordered chaos of the Spaceship Earth. It is a huge thing to control the planet. The weather is caused by the Earth's motion and orbit of the Moon... to change the weather, you need the ability to control the natural movement of the planet.
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I think the best we can do today is seed the clouds to make rain... but, you need to have clouds, first. In order to 'create' clouds, you need entire fields of giant ionizers to generate waves of negative ions which rise into the lower atmosphere and attract dust particles. The dust particles, in turn, attract condensation from the ambient air... clouds.
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In order stop (a Soviet or Chinese) weather machine... kill the giant, undefensable stationary machine. A satellite directed air launched cruise missile should do the trick.

Just the fact that you have to educate people here on this topic is unbelivable :fp:

Cosmo

even flow - question mark wrote:

Don't get me wrong Cosmo, I believe that everything starts off with good intentions, but unfortunately things go sour most times. The person researching chemicals probably has not inkling that their research is going to end up wiping out people via a chemical weapon. But hey, thanks for coming up with that. Same with Einstein, same with what you are telling me about what the research behind this is. Do you really think they'd inform people who are not on the inside about other intentions. Like I said earlier, nice little cell phone you have, what do you think the military has.

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No... i agree. All new technologies that arise has certain people asking, "How can we use this technology to kill people?' That is the nature of Man.
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Now... I'm not saying there aren't people trying to figure ways to weaponize this communications system. But, the physics of making such a system and defending it from hostile forces, including Mother Nature, make it extremely difficult (and expensive).

chadwick

by the way, other powerful (and probably dictatorships) countries that we have conflict with are gearing up to follow our engineering feats & creating their own little harrp

Cosmo

chadwick wrote:

by the way, other powerful (and probably dictatorships) countries that we have conflict with are gearing up to follow our engineering feats & creating their own little harrp

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That would be good... if they want to create weather havoc in their own country.
That's the problem... let's say you **can** create a tornado. You cannot send it off to Iran to take out their nuclear enrichment site.. or to North Korea to knock over his bullshit North Korean piece of shit bottle rocket. The tornado will do what tornados do... wander in a random path based upon barometric conditions. You would have to spend a lot of enegy to create those conditions and it would affect a large area onthe Earth's surface. So, that tornado might take out the Tehran Wal-mart, instead of that targeted nuclear facility.
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What we really need to think about is the further development and use of those direct energy weapons. Those are in their early stages and may possibly lead to stronger, more weather tolerant weapons systems.

chadwick

someone will & most definitely already is having evil thoughts with harrp. can harrp create tornados? when meeting the right natural conditions ... i would not be surprised if man could create a tornado by way of harrp. can they control it like a remote controlled car? no.

not yet

Cosmo

The weather we are seeing is due to the global warming. As we lose more of our polar ice caps, the warmer oceans get cooler... like when you add ice to a glass of water. On the global scale, it creates these unstable weather conditions in our atmosphere, especially in those places where warm currents meet cold currents... the birth place of hurricanes. Increase the differences in temperature... increase the size/strength of the winds.

JimmyV

Halifax2TheMax

I just don't think there is anything "crazy" about it. Just humankind's limitless curiosity testing and perhaps being successful of theories which may have practical, beneficial applications. Imagine where we would be without science and research. Leonardo was run out of town and I'm not of the mindset that everything the government does is some ill intentioned evil plot to control humankind. I watch the X-Files for that.

Now you, good sir, and everyone else in this awesome, interesting, at times bizarre and crazy community have an awesome weekend and don't forget why we get, or at least some of us have, Monday off.

Peace.

chadwick

Cosmo wrote:

The weather we are seeing is due to the global warming. As we lose more of our polar ice caps, the warmer oceans get cooler... like when you add ice to a glass of water. On the global scale, it creates these unstable weather conditions in our atmosphere, especially in those places where warm currents meet cold currents... the birth place of hurricanes. Increase the differences in temperature... increase the size/strength of the winds.

one single degree warmer in water & salmon die & or will not spawn.