I disagree politely. Everyone learns along the way. Who's not learning so much are those constantly judging others,
even their own family.Man they are missing a whole heck of a lot by generalizing, categorizing being conceited stuck up and otherwise a pain in the ass to everyone, probably their family too. Definition don't judge cause someone is different than you with different opinions, in fact don't give that a second thought. It really doesn't matter. And I know I have great long gray hair, brings a BOOM at the concerts and I guess I get judged on that too. My wife and I have a lot of hair we are a product of the 70's and 80's. And that is cool to us at least.
Disagree with what, in particular?
See, not everyone learns along the way - and I don't think it's the judging of others (which we all do, like it - admit it - or not) that's the cause of the bubble-effect.
I LIKE differing opinions. May not agree but I welcome them and sometimes learn from them. I only hope that those who see things from another perspective present theirs with respect (and I think most here do that).
Me, I don't give a shit what someone's hair looks like (I've got thick curly long red hair and when it's in a ponytail it resembles Sideshow Bob's; anyone gonna judge me on that, well...so be it. I'd rather be considered by my actions, character, integrity. So far *knock wood* so good!)
This. I have met quite a few teens that are far more wise and less judgmental than many adults I know! I think it really is all very individual. I give respect to everyone until and unless they do something to lose it. Gaining it back in that situation is very difficult many times.
Hedonist a red head? I took you for a brunette - although I did picture the long part! Me, I have long blond (fake of course ) hair that I just cut pretty short!
Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
The thing on respect.
Respect is something that is earned. you don't automatically get respect simply by being old. You might get sympathy for being old... but, respect is something that is commanded and not demanded.
I had this conversation with my parents in regards to the rest of our family when I was about 9. They seemed a bit put off until I reminded them of all the ignorant, racist, sexist, and religiously brain-washed morons that make up that vast majority of our family...
I said that I'd respect them the moment they did or said something worthy of respect...
by nine he had deciphered the illusion, trading magic for fact
no tradebacks...
I often (maybe too-often but whatever) quote my late dad but damned if his advice wasn't spot-on...he told ME he wanted to be worthy of MY respect. My being his daughter, him being my father, just didn't make it an automatic thing.
I thankfully never got the "because I'm your father and I say so!" response whenever I'd ask why. When he was wrong, he'd admit it. When he *thought* he was wrong, he'd say so.
Fuckin a, respect earned (and even better, lived up to).
This statement is not true, everyone does not learn along the way and not everyone evolves and grows up neither. And someone mentioned that his/her father would admit when he was wrong. Now THAT is a very respectful thing that so many folks cannot master and even find impossible to do because of their pride.
Another thing mentioned earlier that respect is not automatic. I agree, however I've noticed that there is now a huge lack of respect that used to be given to senior citizens. "Respect your elders" was something drilled into my brain as a kid. And I did. Nowadays I see lots of young people completely disrespect seniors "just because they can" or "they have to respect me first" and I think that says a lot about how our society went from respecting others to complete and utter disrespect universally. My own nephews show their grandparents a complete lack of respect because my siblings didn't teach them to (and my parents are respectful senior citizens).
This statement is not true, everyone does not learn along the way and not everyone evolves and grows up neither. And someone mentioned that his/her father would admit when he was wrong. Now THAT is a very respectful thing that so many folks cannot master and even find impossible to do because of their pride.
Another thing mentioned earlier that respect is not automatic. I agree, however I've noticed that there is now a huge lack of respect that used to be given to senior citizens. "Respect your elders" was something drilled into my brain as a kid. And I did. Nowadays I see lots of young people completely disrespect seniors "just because they can" or "they have to respect me first" and I think that says a lot about how our society went from respecting others to complete and utter disrespect universally. My own nephews show their grandparents a complete lack of respect because my siblings didn't teach them to (and my parents are respectful senior citizens).
I respect all peoples equally. But when someone is telling me, simply because of their age, that me disagreeing with them means I'm not respecting them and that I should respect them for that, that's total bullshit. age does not automatically give anyone some sort of power over anyone else.
authority figures like parents are exempt from this, of course.
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This statement is not true, everyone does not learn along the way and not everyone evolves and grows up neither. And someone mentioned that his/her father would admit when he was wrong. Now THAT is a very respectful thing that so many folks cannot master and even find impossible to do because of their pride.
Another thing mentioned earlier that respect is not automatic. I agree, however I've noticed that there is now a huge lack of respect that used to be given to senior citizens. "Respect your elders" was something drilled into my brain as a kid. And I did. Nowadays I see lots of young people completely disrespect seniors "just because they can" or "they have to respect me first" and I think that says a lot about how our society went from respecting others to complete and utter disrespect universally. My own nephews show their grandparents a complete lack of respect because my siblings didn't teach them to (and my parents are respectful senior citizens).
I respect all peoples equally. But when someone is telling me, simply because of their age, that me disagreeing with them means I'm not respecting them and that I should respect them for that, that's total bullshit. age does not automatically give anyone some sort of power over anyone else.
authority figures like parents are exempt from this, of course.
Nowadays I see lots of young people completely disrespect seniors "just because they can" or "they have to respect me first" and I think that says a lot about how our society went from respecting others to complete and utter disrespect universally. My own nephews show their grandparents a complete lack of respect because my siblings didn't teach them to (and my parents are respectful senior citizens).
You make a good point here, though perhaps I'd call my version courtesy vs. respect (maybe semantics?) - I'll always hold the door for an older person (hell, for anyone actually), hit their elevator button for them, if they drop something, pick it up - you get the gist.
But if they start spouting off and being rude? Age aside - it's ON!
Sounds like a disrespectful 19 year old ......are you a hater of the elderly?
Why do you think parents raise children....they are older and wiser.
and that's what she said. I'll give you the context to help you better understand.
we both worked in a restaurant. I was the baker. she was the dishwasher. neither of us were each others' boss. but she told me to do something that wasn't my job, it was hers, but she wanted to go for a smoke. I told her so. she got pissed off at me. I told her to shove it. she said "don't you know what 'respect your elders' means?". she thought for the simple reason that she was older than me that I had to bow to her every whim. it's bullshit. I'll listen to someone who is older and more experienced than me, but don't confuse "experience" with "wisdom". I've met a lot of fucking stupid old people.
hater of the elderly. good god.
Then I don't blame you.....I have no respect for slack people at work...
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
Is the point of this post that white people were cheering a black man?
Did you see them though?, half of them will be dead before the next election. :(
This post is how we all started the age debate....I feel that's hateful and disrespectful....then again maybe I missed the point....
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
This statement is not true, everyone does not learn along the way and not everyone evolves and grows up neither. And someone mentioned that his/her father would admit when he was wrong. Now THAT is a very respectful thing that so many folks cannot master and even find impossible to do because of their pride.
Another thing mentioned earlier that respect is not automatic. I agree, however I've noticed that there is now a huge lack of respect that used to be given to senior citizens. "Respect your elders" was something drilled into my brain as a kid. And I did. Nowadays I see lots of young people completely disrespect seniors "just because they can" or "they have to respect me first" and I think that says a lot about how our society went from respecting others to complete and utter disrespect universally. My own nephews show their grandparents a complete lack of respect because my siblings didn't teach them to (and my parents are respectful senior citizens).
Agree
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
This statement is not true, everyone does not learn along the way and not everyone evolves and grows up neither. And someone mentioned that his/her father would admit when he was wrong. Now THAT is a very respectful thing that so many folks cannot master and even find impossible to do because of their pride.
Another thing mentioned earlier that respect is not automatic. I agree, however I've noticed that there is now a huge lack of respect that used to be given to senior citizens. "Respect your elders" was something drilled into my brain as a kid. And I did. Nowadays I see lots of young people completely disrespect seniors "just because they can" or "they have to respect me first" and I think that says a lot about how our society went from respecting others to complete and utter disrespect universally. My own nephews show their grandparents a complete lack of respect because my siblings didn't teach them to (and my parents are respectful senior citizens).
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Perhaps those disrespectful young people got their attitude from the adults in their lives that did not deserve any respect. Maybe your siblings have failed to command the respect of their kids, your nephews... i don't know.
Again, the person who is demanding respect is a sure fire way of telling you they deserve no respect. As for those disrepectful youths... you probably don't want their respect, anyway.
Also, there are a lot of people... young AND old who do not deserve respect. I refer to those people as, 'Assholes'.
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This. I have met quite a few teens that are far more wise and less judgmental than many adults I know! I think it really is all very individual. I give respect to everyone until and unless they do something to lose it. Gaining it back in that situation is very difficult many times.
Hedonist a red head? I took you for a brunette - although I did picture the long part! Me, I have long blond (fake of course
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
by nine he had deciphered the illusion, trading magic for fact
no tradebacks...
I often (maybe too-often but whatever) quote my late dad but damned if his advice wasn't spot-on...he told ME he wanted to be worthy of MY respect. My being his daughter, him being my father, just didn't make it an automatic thing.
I thankfully never got the "because I'm your father and I say so!" response whenever I'd ask why. When he was wrong, he'd admit it. When he *thought* he was wrong, he'd say so.
Fuckin a, respect earned (and even better, lived up to).
I wear them for driving and TV (and the dark ones when I want to hide my THC'd eyes)
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This statement is not true, everyone does not learn along the way and not everyone evolves and grows up neither. And someone mentioned that his/her father would admit when he was wrong. Now THAT is a very respectful thing that so many folks cannot master and even find impossible to do because of their pride.
Another thing mentioned earlier that respect is not automatic. I agree, however I've noticed that there is now a huge lack of respect that used to be given to senior citizens. "Respect your elders" was something drilled into my brain as a kid. And I did. Nowadays I see lots of young people completely disrespect seniors "just because they can" or "they have to respect me first" and I think that says a lot about how our society went from respecting others to complete and utter disrespect universally. My own nephews show their grandparents a complete lack of respect because my siblings didn't teach them to (and my parents are respectful senior citizens).
I respect all peoples equally. But when someone is telling me, simply because of their age, that me disagreeing with them means I'm not respecting them and that I should respect them for that, that's total bullshit. age does not automatically give anyone some sort of power over anyone else.
authority figures like parents are exempt from this, of course.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Agreed, that's kinda f*cked up.
But if they start spouting off and being rude? Age aside - it's ON!
Then I don't blame you.....I have no respect for slack people at work...
This post is how we all started the age debate....I feel that's hateful and disrespectful....then again maybe I missed the point....
Agree
Perhaps those disrespectful young people got their attitude from the adults in their lives that did not deserve any respect. Maybe your siblings have failed to command the respect of their kids, your nephews... i don't know.
Again, the person who is demanding respect is a sure fire way of telling you they deserve no respect. As for those disrepectful youths... you probably don't want their respect, anyway.
Also, there are a lot of people... young AND old who do not deserve respect. I refer to those people as, 'Assholes'.
Hail, Hail!!!