I'm not supporting any conspiracy theory, so really please drop that.
I have said that you need probable cause to arrest someone and in order to actually resist arrest some action has to have taken place in order to resist.
My entire point was that you can't resist arrest if no arrest was taking place, therefore that can't be the initiating arrestable offense.
Or are you going to tell me I'm wrong again and supporting some wild conspiracy theory?
I agree with you. The initial charge can't be "resisting arrest". That's not even possible.
NO ONE IS SAYING IT IS! Someone claimed that resisting arrest is not an "arrestable offense," which is untrue. The only reason this becomes an issue - whether Kokesh was rightfully arrested or not - is if someone here knows for certain that the police were NOT attempting to arrest him for probable cause on a different charge.
Because none of us have that information, to continue to stoke these fires (i.e. "watch the video, he didn't do anything" blah blah blah) is irresponsible conspiracy baiting. For all you know, the arresting officer did have probable cause to arrest Kokesh on a separate charge. The fact that he hasn't been formally charged with any other crime doesn't change that.
I don't know the facts, you don't know the facts, so let's stop pretending we do and at least get our understanding of the law straight.
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If a cop tries tackling me for no reason other than I'm speaking into a microphone (peacefully and without inciting violence) and I defend myself then how exactly is that resisting arrest? Police don't have the right to assault someone that is not committing a crime.
Wow, are you out of touch. You can be charged with resisting arrest for ‘talking back’ to an officer. Depending on your tone and gesters, you can be shot/tased because an officer can say that they feared for their life.
Ok, I'll not bite yet. I don't fear police. They work for me. I fear the power that they let go to their heads. Most cops I know never got invited to parties in high school so now they have to let their insecurities take over and get their power trips because of the gun and badge.
Oops, I bit.
I’m not trying to bait you, what I stated regarding assaulting a police officer is FACT. Whether you think it’s wrong or whether you think it’s a cop playing the big man on campus, they still have the law on their side to make that arrest.
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NO ONE IS SAYING IT IS! Someone claimed that resisting arrest is not an "arrestable offense," which is untrue. The only reason this becomes an issue - whether Kokesh was rightfully arrested or not - is if someone here knows for certain that the police were NOT attempting to arrest him for probable cause on a different charge.
Because none of us have that information, to continue to stoke these fires (i.e. "watch the video, he didn't do anything" blah blah blah) is irresponsible conspiracy baiting. For all you know, the arresting officer did have probable cause to arrest Kokesh on a separate charge. The fact that he hasn't been formally charged with any other crime doesn't change that.
I don't know the facts, you don't know the facts, so let's stop pretending we do and at least get our understanding of the law straight.
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I’m not trying to bait you, what I stated regarding assaulting a police officer is FACT. Whether you think it’s wrong or whether you think it’s a cop playing the big man on campus, they still have the law on their side to make that arrest.
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