Glenn Greenwald Owns Bill Maher

Byrnzie
Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
edited May 2013 in A Moving Train
Glenn Greenwald on Bill Maher's HBO show "Real Time", discussing the subject of Islam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYG7GR13 ... dded#at=13
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Glenn Greenwald on Bill Maher's HBO show "Real Time", discussing the subject of Islam:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYG7GR13 ... dded#at=13

    :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,464
    i watched this friday night. it was refreshing to see maher get his ass handed to him. finally.

    maher, who mocks religion at every turn, somehow seems to hold christianity above it all in this segment. he made an entire movie denouncing religion and here he is implying that christianity has less blood on its hands.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,677
    All good cranks, curmudgeons and iconoclasts should offend everybody at least once.
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    -Roberto Benigni

  • satansbed
    satansbed Posts: 2,139
    Bill maher is no Chris hitchens, Chris would be handed his ass back to him.

    I miss Chris
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    I saw it Friday too. Bill Maher can be a pompous ass, even though I sometimes like him, and he needs to be put in his place, just like everyone else.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Glenn Greenwald on Bill Maher's HBO show "Real Time", discussing the subject of Islam:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYG7GR13 ... dded#at=13


    Hmmmm, I liked that well done G. :clap::clap::clap:
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    g under p wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Glenn Greenwald on Bill Maher's HBO show "Real Time", discussing the subject of Islam:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYG7GR13 ... dded#at=13


    Hmmmm, I liked that well done G. :clap::clap::clap:
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  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    I don't think Bill Maher is always on point, but I don't think he's wrong to say that Islam is currently creating more problems than other religions.

    And Muslims certainly don't have the moral high ground over Israel. You'd be much better off growing up in Tel Aviv than in Riyadh or Tehran, particularly if you were born female.

    But ultimately, all humans are savage beasts and we don't need religion to act out our savage impulses. Religion just helps create a supposedly righteous cause for the ways in which we oppress each other.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    kenny olav wrote:
    I don't think Bill Maher is always on point, but I don't think he's wrong to say that Islam is currently creating more problems than other religions.

    And Muslims certainly don't have the moral high ground over Israel. You'd be much better off growing up in Tel Aviv than in Riyadh or Tehran, particularly if you were born female.

    But ultimately, all humans are savage beasts and we don't need religion to act out our savage impulses. Religion just helps create a supposedly righteous cause for the ways in which we oppress each other.

    What Muslim country has been occupying and subjugating another country for the past 60 years?

    When was the last time Iran attacked anyone?

    You think Muslim women feel themselves to be oppressed? If Islam is so tyrannical then why do 28.73 % of the Worlds population subscribe to it? You think Muslims follow that religion because they're forced to, or do they adhere to it out of choice?
  • satansbed
    satansbed Posts: 2,139
    Byrnzie wrote:
    kenny olav wrote:
    I don't think Bill Maher is always on point, but I don't think he's wrong to say that Islam is currently creating more problems than other religions.

    And Muslims certainly don't have the moral high ground over Israel. You'd be much better off growing up in Tel Aviv than in Riyadh or Tehran, particularly if you were born female.

    But ultimately, all humans are savage beasts and we don't need religion to act out our savage impulses. Religion just helps create a supposedly righteous cause for the ways in which we oppress each other.

    What Muslim country has been occupying and subjugating another country for the past 60 years?

    When was the last time Iran attacked anyone?

    You think Muslim women feel themselves to be oppressed? If Islam is so tyrannical then why do 28.73 % of the Worlds population subscribe to it? You think Muslims follow that religion because they're forced to, or do they adhere to it out of choice?

    On the last point, it's brainwashing like all religions.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    satansbed wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    kenny olav wrote:
    I don't think Bill Maher is always on point, but I don't think he's wrong to say that Islam is currently creating more problems than other religions.

    And Muslims certainly don't have the moral high ground over Israel. You'd be much better off growing up in Tel Aviv than in Riyadh or Tehran, particularly if you were born female.

    But ultimately, all humans are savage beasts and we don't need religion to act out our savage impulses. Religion just helps create a supposedly righteous cause for the ways in which we oppress each other.

    What Muslim country has been occupying and subjugating another country for the past 60 years?

    When was the last time Iran attacked anyone?

    You think Muslim women feel themselves to be oppressed? If Islam is so tyrannical then why do 28.73 % of the Worlds population subscribe to it? You think Muslims follow that religion because they're forced to, or do they adhere to it out of choice?

    On the last point, it's brainwashing like all religions.

    Not just religions. Are they any more brainwashed than the rest of us?

    I mean, we think we're free, yet we have to set alarm clocks to get up every day to do jobs that most of us hate, doing things for other people. And we are constantly being told what we can and cannot do.

    So what's the difference?
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    Byrnzie wrote:

    I mean, we think we're free, yet we have to set alarm clocks to get up every day to do jobs that most of us hate, doing things for other people. And we are constantly being told what we can and cannot do.

    I don't do that because I am not free, I do that because many of the things I want in life are not free. We are all free to drop off the grid and live off the land somewhere. That we choose not to does not make us brainwashed or oppressed.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    JimmyV wrote:
    We are all free to drop off the grid and live off the land somewhere.

    Are we though? I've never met anyone who has. The system in which we live has 99.9% of us by the balls.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    Byrnzie wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:
    We are all free to drop off the grid and live off the land somewhere.

    Are we though? I've never met anyone who has. The system in which we live has 99.9% of us by the balls.

    That's because living off the land is terrible. ;):D
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  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Byrnzie wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:
    We are all free to drop off the grid and live off the land somewhere.

    Are we though? I've never met anyone who has. The system in which we live has 99.9% of us by the balls.

    Look at how Chris McCandless ended up...
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,677
    My guess is that we don't know people who live off the land because most people living off the land don't want to be known. While hiking one year I came upon a fellow who said he spent much of his time living in the wilderness. He was friendly enough but really didn't want to spend much time talking. Also, when I was living on the Olympic Peninsula in WA, I was told that there are people who living in the Olympic Wilderness but rarely make contact with the outside world. I don't know if this is true but the wild man in me hopes it is.

    Wow! How did we get from Bill Maher to here?

    Getting back on subject, Maher may not always be right on to my way of thinking but I admire him for his courage to speak out about things that many people shy away from. I like the way he challenges our thinking on many subjects and I like his sense of humor. I don't have to agree wholly with someone to respect them for their opinions. That's why earlier I mentioned Edward Abbey. I strongly disagree with some of the things Abbey said but for the most part I think he was one of the greatest of America's writers, thinkers and cultural/political/environmental critics. We need people like Abbey and like Maher and others. The intelligent ones, that is.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited May 2013
    brianlux wrote:
    Getting back on subject, Maher may not always be right on to my way of thinking but I admire him for his courage to speak out about things that many people shy away from. I like the way he challenges our thinking on many subjects and I like his sense of humor.

    Watching his documentary 'Religulous', I thought it was quite funny and spot-on at first, but by the end it struck me that when he didn't get his own way he acted like a petulant, spoiled little child.
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  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Not just religions. Are they any more brainwashed than the rest of us?

    I mean, we think we're free, yet we have to set alarm clocks to get up every day to do jobs that most of us hate, doing things for other people. And we are constantly being told what we can and cannot do.

    So what's the difference?

    I love my job. Love waking up in the morning for it. I guess i'm free.....or a happy brainwashed person.
  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    cp3iverson wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Not just religions. Are they any more brainwashed than the rest of us?

    I mean, we think we're free, yet we have to set alarm clocks to get up every day to do jobs that most of us hate, doing things for other people. And we are constantly being told what we can and cannot do.

    So what's the difference?

    I love my job. Love waking up in the morning for it. I guess i'm free.....or a happy brainwashed person.


    Does spending a lifetime collecting stuff we don't need constitute freedom? I'm not so sure. The bottom line is, we're indoctrinated from an early age to live the lives we do. I don't see much difference in that than for people in any other part of the modern World, religious or not.
    In the West we're told to buy stuff and work 40 hours a week. In the Middle East people are told to pray to Allah five times a day.

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