I'll admit that I don't know much of their catalog. High Violet is the only record I have---I heard so much hype about it so I figured I'd check it out. I get that this band has an appeal that speaks to many people and they seem like genuinely nice guys based on a couple interviews I've seen. My problem with their music from what I've heard is all the damn doom and gloom lyrics and textures. I get it---we all experience pain, sorrow, strife, etc...but it gets old after a while when it's song after song of this stuff. The earnestness could take a back seat once in a while. Just write an uptempo, kick-ass, rock n' roll song with breezy, upbeat lyrics for a change. Does anyone relate to what I'm getting at here? Is my perception off-base having heard only one record?
I think alligator, boxer, high violet were all great.
First listen they all had songs i attached to quickly.
this one i'm not attaching to anything. The lyrics are not grabbing me like they have and the music is were i'm really let down. it does not seem as interesting.
That said national albums always get better with every listen for me so i'm holding out hope.
Charlotte 00 Charlotte 03 Asheville 04 Atlanta 12 Greenville 16, Columbia 16 Seattle 18 Nashville 22
I'll admit that I don't know much of their catalog. High Violet is the only record I have---I heard so much hype about it so I figured I'd check it out. I get that this band has an appeal that speaks to many people and they seem like genuinely nice guys based on a couple interviews I've seen. My problem with their music from what I've heard is all the damn doom and gloom lyrics and textures. I get it---we all experience pain, sorrow, strife, etc...but it gets old after a while when it's song after song of this stuff. The earnestness could take a back seat once in a while. Just write an uptempo, kick-ass, rock n' roll song with breezy, upbeat lyrics for a change. Does anyone relate to what I'm getting at here? Is my perception off-base having heard only one record?
I disagree in that the gloominess is what gives them character and separates them from the rest. They have a couple of high energy songs, and they are primarily used to close shows or sets. As someone who has been a huge fan for years, I think that the real issue is that they have become formulaic, predictable, and unwilling to take risks. At this point into their career fans should be able to hear a new record and think "I know this is The National, but they have evolved since their last album". I think they failed miserably in doing that this time around. I don't want to wait three years to hear the same thing I already heard.
this one i'm not attaching to anything. The lyrics are not grabbing me like they have and the music is were i'm really let down. it does not seem as interesting.
Really? I think musically, its their most accomplished album.
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
Every time I listen to this album, I like it more. My fav album of 2013 thus far. Graceless is my favorite song in the past few years. My two cents.
I think Alligator and Boxer are two of the best albums in recent memory. High violet is great also, but a step behind the two aforementioned albums and trouble will find me.
All of their albums have been "growers" for me.
So even though, I wasn't thrilled with my first listen, it was good enough to give it a few more listens.
Can anybody who's been to a show this tour so far describe the merch situation? Specifically, have there been any gigposters so far, or is it just standard fare like shirts, cds and such?
Isn't "This Is The Last Time" a cover? I could have sworn i heard it before somewhere.
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
yeah i tried to find info but came up empty, but there are some parts that sounds very familiar to me
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
I didnt even know they announced a show. I see they are doing 3 nights. Awesome news. If anyone has a presale code they wish to release, please PM me as well.
Barrie 98, Toronto 00, Toronto 03, Buffalo 03, Toronto 05, Hamilton 05, Kitchener 05, Toronto 06 I II, Lolla 07, Vedder Toronto I II, Toronto 09, Philly Oct 30 & 31 2009, Buffalo 2010, Cleveland 2010, Toronto I II 2011, Hamilton 2011, Ottawa 2011, London 2013, Buffalo 2013, Pittsburgh 2013, FLL 2016, Miami 2016, Tor I & II 2016, Barcelona 2018, Toronto 2022, Ottawa 2022, Quebec City 2022, Hamilton 2022
Their last 3 records really have stuck with me, obviously "trouble will find me" is still in heavy rotation as it is pretty new-ish. IThe I went crazy for HIGH VIOLET and BOXER. First time I heard the band was about 5 years ago...after hearing the drumming on "mistaken for strangers" I was HOOKED on this band for life.
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I think all the new songs sound like The National songs.... that I have heard already.
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
First listen they all had songs i attached to quickly.
this one i'm not attaching to anything. The lyrics are not grabbing me like they have and the music is were i'm really let down. it does not seem as interesting.
That said national albums always get better with every listen for me so i'm holding out hope.
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Asheville 04
Atlanta 12
Greenville 16, Columbia 16
Seattle 18
Nashville 22
I disagree in that the gloominess is what gives them character and separates them from the rest. They have a couple of high energy songs, and they are primarily used to close shows or sets. As someone who has been a huge fan for years, I think that the real issue is that they have become formulaic, predictable, and unwilling to take risks. At this point into their career fans should be able to hear a new record and think "I know this is The National, but they have evolved since their last album". I think they failed miserably in doing that this time around. I don't want to wait three years to hear the same thing I already heard.
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
PJ - Auckland 2009; Alpine Valley1&2 2011; Man1, Am'dam1&2, Berlin1&2, Stockholm, Oslo & Copenhagen 2012; LA, Oakland, Portland, Spokane, Calgary, Vancouver, Seattle 2013; Auckland 2014, Auckland1&2 2024
EV - Canberra, Newcastle & Sydney 1&2 2011
Really? I think musically, its their most accomplished album.
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
I think Alligator and Boxer are two of the best albums in recent memory. High violet is great also, but a step behind the two aforementioned albums and trouble will find me.
So even though, I wasn't thrilled with my first listen, it was good enough to give it a few more listens.
PJ - Auckland 2009; Alpine Valley1&2 2011; Man1, Am'dam1&2, Berlin1&2, Stockholm, Oslo & Copenhagen 2012; LA, Oakland, Portland, Spokane, Calgary, Vancouver, Seattle 2013; Auckland 2014, Auckland1&2 2024
EV - Canberra, Newcastle & Sydney 1&2 2011
http://instagram.com/p/aSPNg_EvUx/
I LOVE it. And i'm really looking forward to seeing Them twice this year!
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
Similar in structure to Cardinal Song.
yeah i tried to find info but came up empty, but there are some parts that sounds very familiar to me
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
You should check out their 3 preceding albums as well. Alligator and Boxer are brilliant. High violet is really good too
Can someone PLEASE pm me the presale password?
I've been spinning solely The National on shuffle on my phone for the last couple of days in prep.
YAY! Gig day! :-D
PJ - Auckland 2009; Alpine Valley1&2 2011; Man1, Am'dam1&2, Berlin1&2, Stockholm, Oslo & Copenhagen 2012; LA, Oakland, Portland, Spokane, Calgary, Vancouver, Seattle 2013; Auckland 2014, Auckland1&2 2024
EV - Canberra, Newcastle & Sydney 1&2 2011
Setlist:
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/the-national/2014/vector-arena-auckland-new-zealand-33c534f1.html
PJ - Auckland 2009; Alpine Valley1&2 2011; Man1, Am'dam1&2, Berlin1&2, Stockholm, Oslo & Copenhagen 2012; LA, Oakland, Portland, Spokane, Calgary, Vancouver, Seattle 2013; Auckland 2014, Auckland1&2 2024
EV - Canberra, Newcastle & Sydney 1&2 2011