The National - Trouble Will Find Me

BenzorBenzor Posts: 886
edited August 2013 in Other Music
As of tonight, I think this one deserves its own thread ;)






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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,079
    Best band on the planet. confirmed.

    Album is fantastic.
  • May 30thMay 30th Posts: 1,753
    Halfway through this disc and it is really really good.
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,071
    didn't know they had a new album out :oops:
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  • musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    its good but very different from High Violet. This is dark. Mixing is muddy. But there are some undeniably great songs. Demons, Dont Swallow, and Graceless for example
  • EZ1221CEZ1221C Posts: 2,645
    super pumped for this album. did it leak? how do you guys have it already?
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,079
    It leaked last night.
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,079
    its good but very different from High Violet. This is dark. Mixing is muddy. But there are some undeniably great songs. Demons, Dont Swallow, and Graceless for example

    Most of their music is dark though. And I think the rip isn't that great thats why it doesn't sound super great.
  • intodeepintodeep Posts: 7,228
    Grabbed a pair of tickets for their atlanta show today.

    It will be my third time seeing them but first time with them as the headliner
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  • LukinFanLukinFan Posts: 29,050
    What kind of sound does this band have? Never heard them before. Who would you compare them to? Thanks
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,079
    edited May 2013
    Similar to the Walkmen. But I guess if you haven't heard of the National, you haven't heard of The Walkmen.

    There is some Guided by Voices in there. Some Smiths. Definetly Pavement in the lyrics. I have so say what they do sounds pretty unique to me.

    It's melancholy indie chamber rock. Great lyrics that reflect male insecurities and shortcomings. Nothing groundbreaking but done really,really fucking well.
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,169
    LukinFan wrote:
    What kind of sound does this band have? Never heard them before. Who would you compare them to? Thanks

    You need to listen to them ASAP. One of the best bands around today.
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  • LukinFanLukinFan Posts: 29,050
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    LukinFan wrote:
    What kind of sound does this band have? Never heard them before. Who would you compare them to? Thanks

    You need to listen to them ASAP. One of the best bands around today.
    Similar to the Walkmen. But I guess if you haven't heard of the National, you haven't heard of The Walkmen.

    There is some Guided by Voices in there. Some Smiths. Definetly Pavement in the lyrics. I have so say what they do sounds pretty unique to me.

    It's melancholy indie chamber rock. Great lyrics that reflect male insecurities and shortcomings. Nothing groundbreaking but done really,really fucking well.
    Very cool - thanks guys. I'll check them out. what album do you suggest starting with? I'm assuming not the newest one?
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  • Been called "Dad rock" out there in the world of music egos. Don't know what the fuck that's about! The new record is pretty damn good. Listening now...
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  • LukinFanLukinFan Posts: 29,050
    I'm going to start with Alligator.
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,169
    LukinFan wrote:
    I'm going to start with Alligator.

    I think The Boxer is a little more accessible than Alligator. But Alligator was their first great album in my opinion so thats a good place to start. I didn't love it at first but was patient with it. Enjoy!
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  • LukinFanLukinFan Posts: 29,050
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    LukinFan wrote:
    I'm going to start with Alligator.

    I think The Boxer is a little more accessible than Alligator. But Alligator was their first great album in my opinion so thats a good place to start. I didn't love it at first but was patient with it. Enjoy!
    sweet - I'll check out both of them
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  • BenzorBenzor Posts: 886
    edited May 2013
    Boxer is their most accessible work but Alligator is their greatest...a masterpiece.

    As for 'TWFM'...I'd put it right behind Alligator and Boxer, ahead of Sad Songs and High Violet. Try to think of a band who has put out 5 albums in a row (recent memory) as good as Sad Songs, Alligator, Boxer, High Violet, and now TWFM....I can't do it. Graceless is an instant classic...one of the best they will ever make...Slipped is the best ballad since Geese/City MIddle...I Should Live in Salt, Humiliation, and Sea of Love are all not far behind.
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,079
    LukinFan wrote:
    Very cool - thanks guys. I'll check them out. what album do you suggest starting with? I'm assuming not the newest one?

    Personally, start with Alligator, then go to Cherry Tree EP. then Boxer, then High Violet.

    If you really want to be ballsy, you can start with Sad Songs for Dirty lovers, their second album. Skip their first, even they say don't bother.


    This new one is great starter too.
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,079
    Benzor wrote:

    As for 'TWFM'...I'd put it right behind Alligator and Boxer, ahead of Sad Songs and High Violet. Try to think of a band who has ever put out 5 albums in a row as good as Sad Songs, Alligator, Boxer, High Violet, and now TWFM....I can't do it. Graceless is an instant classic...one of the best they will ever make...Slipped is the best ballad since Geese/City MIddle...I Should Live in Salt, Humiliation, and Sea of Love are all not far behind.


    P. much.

    Certainly no band in the past 10-15 years. Certainly people here will argue for Pearl Jam. Really through I'd say the Smiths or REM were the last band to put out albums this good and this critically acclaimed.
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,079
    Also, I think this is the album where they blow up. Like, this is their Document (granted there is no One I Love or End Of The World). Stadium status after this one.
  • rcsrcs Posts: 711
    Wow. Just, wow.

    I am utterly blown away by this album. Pure brilliance.
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  • BenzorBenzor Posts: 886
    Also, I think this is the album where they blow up. Like, this is their Document (granted there is no One I Love or End Of The World). Stadium status after this one.

    Tim, did you get a chance to catch Mistaken for Strangers (Tom's documentary)?
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,079
    No. Hasn't played here yet. I'll probably wait until it pops up on iTunes this fall.
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,071
    i still need their other albums. Only have High Violet and a handful of songs off Boxer
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  • LukinFanLukinFan Posts: 29,050
    I checked out Alligator last night and really liked it.
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  • BenzorBenzor Posts: 886
    No. Hasn't played here yet. I'll probably wait until it pops up on iTunes this fall.


    Saw it at Tribeca...it's brilliant.
  • BenzorBenzor Posts: 886
    i still need their other albums. Only have High Violet and a handful of songs off Boxer

    You need Alligator now.
  • LiftedLifted Posts: 1,836
    Benzor wrote:

    As for 'TWFM'...I'd put it right behind Alligator and Boxer, ahead of Sad Songs and High Violet. Try to think of a band who has ever put out 5 albums in a row as good as Sad Songs, Alligator, Boxer, High Violet, and now TWFM....I can't do it. Graceless is an instant classic...one of the best they will ever make...Slipped is the best ballad since Geese/City MIddle...I Should Live in Salt, Humiliation, and Sea of Love are all not far behind.


    P. much.

    Certainly no band in the past 10-15 years. Certainly people here will argue for Pearl Jam. Really through I'd say the Smiths or REM were the last band to put out albums this good and this critically acclaimed.


    i guess it's really a matter of opinion...but...

    wilco -
    being there
    summerteeth
    yankee hotel foxtrot
    a ghost is born
    sky blue sky

    i'd even throw am in there on the top to make it six, although that one isn't quite as epic as the other ones.

    mmj almost did five classics in a row but put out evil urges after 4 masterpieces

    there's been some other great runs as well. wilco came to mind first. i guess if you love the national, it's easy to make a statement like that. either way, i will agree that their albums have been pretty consistent. i think sad songs seems to be their most underrated album, in this thread particularly. at times it's my favorite. 'cardinal song' and 'available' might be my two favorite songs by the band.

    as for this new one. i've listened to it a few times now. it's got a nice sound, and it certainly sounds like the national, but no songs have come out and grabbed me yet. maybe they will over time. i'm gonna keep spinning it for a while, because i don't strongly dislike it, but unfortunately, my initial reaction would be to say that it sounds like the national doing a great job at being the national, without doing anything particularly interesting or different. it's borderline uninspired. i don't know if this will make sense to anyone that's heard it, but is just seems a little phoned in and safe to me. i will say though that matt's vocals sound as good as ever. i do miss the scream from the earlier stuff though.
  • musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    edited May 2013
    Also, I think this is the album where they blow up. Like, this is their Document (granted there is no One I Love or End Of The World). Stadium status after this one.


    I disagree. High Violet was that album. The National is pretty damn big. They are probably one of the biggest indie bands in the world. What other bands are bigger in the indie scene than Arcade Fire, The national, Bon Iver? They are big tent indie.

    I dont think they will get any bigger. Trouble Will Find Me isnt a crossover/mainstream potential album. Its dark. and inaccessible.

    I think they are like Pearl Jam or Wilco or bands like that. bands that are damn big and commercially and critically revered, but who arent playing in front of 60,000. Well I guess PJ does that. But still... the main point is I dont think Wilco or PJ will get any bigger. Same with The National
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