Something's happening in Syria

usamamasan1

reason.
basement boy bullshit eating chicken dipped in ketchup

usamamasan1

The "whole world"
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Byrnzie

yosi wrote:

And as for why Syria is the way it is currently, I'd refer you back to the half century of brutal dictatorship.

Do you think the Arab Spring uprisings in Syria deserve to be exploited by the U.S and Israel, thereby destroying the country and leading it down the same path of sectarian violence and eventual disintegration as occurred in Iraq?

Or are you going to conveniently blame it on the Syrian leadership, as you no doubt blame the destruction of Iraq on Saddam Hussein?

usamamasan1

Byrnzie

Here, I'll educate you: The whole World supports U.N Resolution 242, which calls for a full and immediate withdrawal of all Israeli's from territories it captured during the June 1967 war. The Whole World supports it, excluding Israel and the U.S.
So, we have the whole World on one side, and Israel and the U.S on the other.

usamamasan1

Do you know what "whole" means?

usamamasan1

Emoticon all up in your lack if knowing the meaning of whole.
Read your cut and pastes if you want to be taken seriously.

Tears on my keyboard

Byrnzie

usamamasan1 wrote:

Do you know what "whole" means?

Do you know what 'Troll' means?

usamamasan1

Something that doesn't get out and lives in Grammies basement, right?
Always interested in new things.
Do tell more about the damp conditions.

Byrnzie

yosi wrote:

And as for why Syria is the way it is currently, I'd refer you back to the half century of brutal dictatorship.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinio ... 37919.html
When Syrians, swept up in the once-transcendent spirit of the Arab Spring uprisings, undertook their own revolution against the corrupt, myopic regime of Bashar al-Assad, few had any idea it would lead to the dystopian reality of massacres and foreign predations the country faces today. The revolution - a legitimate, democratic uprising against a despotic government - provided a prize opportunity for the country's neighbours to violently exploit Syrian unrest to further their own venal interests.

The tragic result of this situation is the vicious proxy war playing out today in the streets of Aleppo, Homs, Deir ez-Zor and countless other cities and towns throughout the country. A once-proud nation - long recognised as the cultural and historical jewel of the Levant - has been reduced to a grim battlefield between the West and its Gulf allies on one hand and the Syrian government and its allies in Iran, Russia and Hezbollah on the other. The Israeli airstrikes perpetrated with impunity onto Damascus this past week are yet another illustrative example of the depths of turmoil to which Syria has sunk.

As analysts openly discuss the "Somaliasation" of Syria and growing factions within the country call for military intervention to break the state up into small ethnic and religious enclaves - literally, "into pieces" - the prospect of a united Syria grows more remote by the day. Again, just as in Iraq, the benefactors of Syria's dismemberment will be the external actors which seek hegemony in the region and have never hidden their desire to see the country collapse.

As early as 2011, a particularly frank prescription for the future of Syria was given by Lawrence Solomon, who called for a radical redrawing of the country's borders to facilitate Western interests:

"There is a better end game… Syria's dismemberment into constituent parts. US and NATO countries… should confine Alawites to a state in the central Western part of the country where they are predominant… the West has no cause to favour appeasement… over the many gains to be had through a dismemberment of Syria."

usamamasan1

Tl:dr
Your cut pastes are getting silly

usamamasan1

Syria should be more like the USA
You know, wicked awesome

usamamasan1

Save our President

yosi

I love how you can always be counted on to invoke the talismanic powers of international law.

If you're going to invoke international law could you please point me to the treaty or customary norm that says that countries can't employ military force to interdict strategic weapons being shipped to hostile enemies on their borders?

And how exactly has the Syrian uprising been exploited by either Israel or the US? Best I can tell both Israel and the US are doing their best to mostly stay out of it.

As for sectarian violence in Syria and in Iraq, I blame that on extreme sectarianism, which is a feature of these countries that neither Israel nor the US created. I'd argue that brutal dictatorships in both countries that were aligned with one particular group and that was especially repressive towards the others exacerbated the situations. So yeah, I really don't see how the US or Israel has any connection to sectarian violence in either of these countries except for the US's role in getting rid of Saddam, whose regime was the only thing keeping Iraq's sectarian divisions from boiling over into violence.

Do you mean to tell me that you really think that Iraq and Syria, if left to their own devices, would be stable, peaceful countries, and that they're only in their current state because of US and Israeli machinations to secretly fuck them up? Cause that's really just fucking crazy! :fp: Ok, I guess that is how you see it. I really have no clue how anyone with eyes to see and a brain to think can come to such an utterly unsupported conclusion, but whatever.

Kat

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