Something's happening in Syria

satansbed

http://t.co/f79IFbtc5N

Could be interesting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN68M60363Y

brianlux

I just finished reading Dalton Trumbo's Johnny Got His Gun so, yeah, war- what is it good for? ABSOLUTELY NOTHIN'!

Byrnzie

The Israeli's love any excuse to wage war on their neighbours. They've been doing it for the past 60 years after all.
And they need to do something with the $4Billion in U.S military aid they receive every year, courtesy of U.S tax payers.

badbrains

And so it starts.........we NEVER learn, and our leaders continue to FOOL US....shame on ALL OF US.... :(

StillHere

Why can't we all just get along, get along, get along?

satansbed

I will add that i am not necessarily against military intervention in syria. particularly if Assad is using chemical weapons. it is just never a nice thing to see either.

mcgruff10

4 billion a year?! Seriously? Wow. I never knew it was that much. I wish the us government would cut aid to every country for just one year and use that money on her own people. Did any countries send money after Katrina or sandy?

satansbed

mcgruff10 wrote:

4 billion a year?! Seriously? Wow. I never knew it was that much. I wish the us government would cut aid to every country for just one year and use that money on her own people. Did any countries send money after Katrina or sandy?

Eh yeah actually

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internatio ... ne_Katrina

mcgruff10

I had no clue we declined help during Katrina, that s just crazy.

Choccoloccotide

Byrnzie wrote:

The Israeli's love any excuse to wage war on their neighbours. They've been doing it for the past 60 years after all.
And they need to do something with the $4Billion in U.S military aid they receive every year, courtesy of U.S tax payers.

WTF!

Drowned Out

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ma ... ar-strikes



Carla del Ponte, one of the lead investigators, said the UN independent commission of inquiry on Syria has not yet seen evidence of government forces having used chemical weapons, which are banned under international law. But she told Swiss-Italian television: "Our investigators have been in neighbouring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals and, according to their report of last week, which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated. This was use on the part of the opposition, the rebels, not by the government authorities."

Del Ponte gave no details as to when or where sarin may have been used. The report followed claims last month that president Bashar al-Assad had used sarin gas in the conflict, but there has so far been no proof of its use



I'm guessing the public in the US hasn't heard much about this, have they? Is the media still going with the storyline that it's the government using nerve gas?

Byrnzie

Choccoloccotide wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

The Israeli's love any excuse to wage war on their neighbours. They've been doing it for the past 60 years after all.
And they need to do something with the $4Billion in U.S military aid they receive every year, courtesy of U.S tax payers.

WTF!

What's funny?

STAYSEA

Byrnzie wrote:

The Israeli's love any excuse to wage war on their neighbours. They've been doing it for the past 60 years after all.
And they need to do something with the $4Billion in U.S military aid they receive every year, courtesy of U.S tax payers.

:fp:

What countries are invested heavily in US stock markets. ? You tell me?

Did Katrina impact anyone that has an opinion. It sure as heck sucked in my small world.

Those FEMA cards... most people spent frivolously, *edit, ugly.

I've never witnessed such a WASTE of Government tax/ my money. WOW.

This makes me sick

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internatio ... ne_Katrina


No wonder the South is hated. I gave money to Haiti. No more train for me... I'm disgusted.

I'm sure a few spent it to rebuild. :silent:

What ever money was donated or given did not impact the devastation. It wasn't used properly.
That is so sad and I'm reminded why I stay out. I just watch my surroundings. Like a train wreck that can't be stopped.

Cosmo

Let's see...
Assad government with the backing of Hezbollah (who is backed by Iran)...
OR...
Syrian Rebels with a strong showing by al Qeada...
...
Hmmmm... which to choose... guns/ammo to Hezbollah... or al Qeada?
...
My choice. NEITHER.
If a Civil War is part of Syria's history... why are we a part of it? Who made us the police of the world? Why is it OUR responsibility to keep those assholes from deciding the fate of THEIR country?
...
STAY OUT OF SYRIA!!!
Need a personal reference? Okay... IRAQ.

JimmyV

Cosmo wrote:

...
STAY OUT OF SYRIA!!!

This is really the only answer.

Choccoloccotide

JimmyV wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

...
STAY OUT OF SYRIA!!!

This is really the only answer.

I concur.

Choccoloccotide

Byrnzie wrote:

Choccoloccotide wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

The Israeli's love any excuse to wage war on their neighbours. They've been doing it for the past 60 years after all.
And they need to do something with the $4Billion in U.S military aid they receive every year, courtesy of U.S tax payers.

WTF!

What's funny?

This:
The Israeli's love any excuse to wage war on their neighbours. They've been doing it for the past 60 years after all.
And they need to do something with the $4Billion in U.S military aid they receive every year, courtesy of U.S tax payers. --Byrnzie

Byrnzie

Choccoloccotide wrote:

This:
The Israeli's love any excuse to wage war on their neighbours. They've been doing it for the past 60 years after all.
And they need to do something with the $4Billion in U.S military aid they receive every year, courtesy of U.S tax payers. --Byrnzie

I.e, you're incapable of supporting your silly comment and emoticons with an intelligent response.

Trolling is not cool.

Byrnzie

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinio ... 37919.html

Iraq, Syria and the death of the modern Middle East

The nations of Syria and Iraq today are little more than political fictions, crushed underfoot by foreign intervention.

07 May 2013


'...As early as 2011, a particularly frank prescription for the future of Syria was given by Lawrence Solomon, who called for a radical redrawing of the country's borders to facilitate Western interests:

"There is a better end game… Syria's dismemberment into constituent parts. US and NATO countries… should confine Alawites to a state in the central Western part of the country where they are predominant… the West has no cause to favour appeasement… over the many gains to be had through a dismemberment of Syria."

As risible as Solomon's suggestions seemed at the time, the unfathomable reality is that today just such a situation is occurring - as analysts dispassionately discuss the possibility of an independent Alawite state in Lattakia and the fragmenting of the rest of the country into separate portions for Kurds, Sunnis, Shias, and the many other ethnic and religious groups which once made up the diverse tapestry of modern Syria.

In a 2007 piece for The New Yorker, the Pulitzer-Prize winning American investigative journalist, Seymour Hersh, reported on what White House insiders called "the Redirection" of US policy in the region. Seeking to reassert influence in the aftermath of the disastrous invasion of Iraq, the US deliberately became party to the fomentation of sectarian conflict throughout the Middle East.

In words that today seem utterly prescient, Hersh wrote:

"The US has taken part in clandestine operations aimed at Iran and its ally Syria. A by-product of these activities has been the bolstering of Sunni extremist groups that espouse a militant vision of Islam and are hostile to America and sympathetic to al-Qaeda."


The extremist groups fighting today in Syria - many of whom openly state their allegiance to al-Qaeda and who have terrorised not just the Syrian government, but also the secular activists who were the progenitors of the revolution itself - are the fruit of this explicitly sectarian policy.

Furthermore, as Hersh noted this policy has: "brought Saudi Arabia and Israel into a new strategic embrace", a claim widely viewed as impossible at the time but which over the intervening years has become increasingly acknowledged by both sides. Indeed, official recognition of this new alliance appears to be increasingly imminent, as reports emerged this week of a US-brokered defence pact between Israel, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and the UAE to guarantee mutual interests in the region.

These changes represent no less than a sea change in Middle Eastern politics, as the old order experiences its final violent convulsions and makes way for a new Western-backed alliance to exert its hegemony over the region. In this new environment, once-cherished concepts of self-determination and independence will be suffocated under the financial, political and military might of an unprecedented new axis of control exerted from the centers of power in Washington, Tel Aviv and Riyadh."

Choccoloccotide

Byrnzie wrote:

Choccoloccotide wrote:

This:
The Israeli's love any excuse to wage war on their neighbours. They've been doing it for the past 60 years after all.
And they need to do something with the $4Billion in U.S military aid they receive every year, courtesy of U.S tax payers. --Byrnzie

I.e, you're incapable of supporting your silly comment and emoticons with an intelligent response.

Trolling is not cool.

Not trolling, just when I see such a ridiculous and ill-informed comment that wreaks of anti-Jewish hate I will laugh my ass of sir. Thank you and good evening.

Byrnzie

Choccoloccotide wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

Choccoloccotide wrote:

This:
The Israeli's love any excuse to wage war on their neighbours. They've been doing it for the past 60 years after all.
And they need to do something with the $4Billion in U.S military aid they receive every year, courtesy of U.S tax payers. --Byrnzie

I.e, you're incapable of supporting your silly comment and emoticons with an intelligent response.

Trolling is not cool.

Not trolling, just when I see such a ridiculous and ill-informed comment that wreaks of anti-Jewish hate I will laugh my ass of sir. Thank you and good evening.

Great, now go ahead and explain how my comment was ridiculous and ill-informed.

Then when you're done with that, you can explain to me how criticism of Israel constitutes anti-Jewish hate.