She just walked away?

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http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/01/us/pennsy ... index.html

hedonist

Apparently she decided to leave her eyebrows behind as well.

LloydXmas

Her husband must have lost their life savings at a carnival.

jason

LloydXmas wrote:

Her husband must have lost their life savings at a carnival.

Jason P

LloydXmas wrote:

Her husband must have lost their life savings at a carnival.

She was too good for a rastafarian banana? What a bitch.

:fp:

Godfather.

what a sad story, we just can't understand what she was going through mentaly when she walked away
and not for me to judge her, her then husband wanted a devorice she stressed about taking care of her kid's then snapped. everything had ended in her mind maybe.

Godfather.

redrock

Agree Godfather. Whilst it's something I couldn't fathom doing, one just doesn't know. Some might top themselves, others completely lose it and end up in a mental facility, some 'disappear'... And some deal with it.

mydogmookieblaylock

......so?

catefrances

wow.

Cosmo

She is 54?
...
Gosh... I hope 54 isn't the new 92.

the wolf

I dream of just walking away.

pandora

Tough to hurt the ones who love you, what a terrible thing to put people through,
them not knowing, them imagining the worse ...
the husband a suspect, the children's trust

I was thinking this morning, hearing the story of an anchorman here.
His beautiful teenage son has been battling a brain tumor. Another surgery today.
People have to face so much through no fault of their own, then people
who are blessed turn their lives to crap and don't appreciate the chance for love
and happiness they are given.

This woman did just that and she has paid an immeasurable price.
She may not even realize the depth of pain she has caused til she passes.
I would like to hope the kids could forgive for their own well being but
God that must hurt. Ultimate betrayal, their Mother.

the wolf

I understand that it sucked to put the people who cared about her through that, and i could never do it.
Having said that, what about her? I mean, why are people with depression issues always told it's selfish to do
what they feel like they have to do to get by?
I mean really. Same with suicide. Some people say it's the most selfish thing you can do, and a cowards way out.
I read a very indepth study about suicide and they "types" of people that attempt suicide, and all the doc's involved came to the conclusion that it was neither selfish nor cowardly in most cases of suicide or suicide attempts.
The reason being is this, as humans our most basic urge is survival. To get to a place that you can actually overcome the need to survive and take your own life is far from being a puss and taking the easy way out.
The basic need to survive is the single strongest thing we feel as humans, so to take you own life is, according to these people that did the study, in fact the hardest, thing they could do, and some even said the bravest thing they could do. To fight that basic instinct of self preservation and end your life is not EASY at all, very much the opposite.

As far as selfish? Isn't it just as selfish for the "loved ones" to expect someone like that to live in a situation
they feel is unlivable?
Why is no one lining up and telling the loved ones they are selfish? I mean to be so depressed you want to end your life, or leave it behind.... that's a level of depression i hope most here will never know.
So to call those people selfish is unacceptable in my eyes.

No one knows what those people are feeling at that moment in time, when they make that choice.
And i hope most never do.

*stepping down from my soapbox now*

PJ_Soul

What a bitch. Depression is no excuse for doing that.

Godfather.

the wolf wrote:

I dream of just walking away.

you can walk away but you can never leave,

Godfather.

pandora

the wolf wrote:

I understand that it sucked to put the people who cared about her through that, and i could never do it.
Having said that, what about her? I mean, why are people with depression issues always told it's selfish to do
what they feel like they have to do to get by?
I mean really. Same with suicide. Some people say it's the most selfish thing you can do, and a cowards way out.
I read a very indepth study about suicide and they "types" of people that attempt suicide, and all the doc's involved came to the conclusion that it was neither selfish nor cowardly in most cases of suicide or suicide attempts.
The reason being is this, as humans our most basic urge is survival. To get to a place that you can actually overcome the need to survive and take your own life is far from being a puss and taking the easy way out.
The basic need to survive is the single strongest thing we feel as humans, so to take you own life is, according to these people that did the study, in fact the hardest, thing they could do, and some even said the bravest thing they could do. To fight that basic instinct of self preservation and end your life is not EASY at all, very much the opposite.

As far as selfish? Isn't it just as selfish for the "loved ones" to expect someone like that to live in a situation
they feel is unlivable?
Why is no one lining up and telling the loved ones they are selfish? I mean to be so depressed you want to end your life, or leave it behind.... that's a level of depression i hope most here will never know.
So to call those people selfish is unacceptable in my eyes.

No one knows what those people are feeling at that moment in time, when they make that choice.
And i hope most never do.

*stepping down from my soapbox now*

Having been in selfish places I get what you are saying
its a deep dark place to be...
but and a great big but... children are involved here.

What saved me were a few small words on MTV...
"once you are a parent suicide is no longer an option" seems like a simple thought yes?
It was a light into my heart. My young ones spread out in front of the TV.
I knew what I had to learn to do no matter what. Forgive myself.
Be there for them.

This women put her family through such torture though. I just don't get that.
The not knowing what happened her, making her husband a suspect etc.
It was as though she punished them. Was that the intent? I don't know.
She has this to this carry though through eternity and she will know the pain she caused
and have to make sense of the why. Why not seek help? Why punish her children?

redrock

Good soapbox Wolf.

Some people here are so quick to 'justify' crime or 'excuse' the criminal and his/her actions because of possible mental illness (in a number of 'shooting' or horrible crime threads here). That they don't think straight, think of the consequences. That, as society, we are responsible and should do more to give help before it gets to their breaking point, etc.

So why dump on this woman? Why can't she be one of those that should have gotten more help before her breaking point? She couldn't cope and none of the 'loved ones' around her -that she put through the mill, betrayed and so hurt - noticed she couldn't cope and helped.

I am not condoning what she did and, as I said, I don't think I could (but then, who knows). But this is a very sad story.

PJ_Soul

redrock wrote:

Good soapbox Wolf.

Some people here are so quick to 'justify' crime or 'excuse' the criminal and his/her actions because of possible mental illness (in a number of 'shooting' or horrible crime threads here). That they don't think straight, think of the consequences. That, as society, we are responsible and should do more to give help before it gets to their breaking point, etc.

So why dump on this woman? Why can't she be one of those that should have gotten more help before her breaking point? She couldn't cope and none of the 'loved ones' around her -that she put through the mill, betrayed and so hurt - noticed she couldn't cope and helped.

I am not condoning what she did and, as I said, I don't think I could (but then, who knows). But this is a very sad story.

Sounds more like she was being super, duper selfish. Sounds like she was perfectly capable of not leaving, but she just made a snap decision that seemed easiest to her at the time. What I'm wondering is why a few of you just to her defense to easily, not why others are so quick to condemn what she did. Is there some kind of rule that I don't know about that says depressed or stressed people can't be assholes too?? I don't think so. I've never heard anyone jump to the defense of fathers who go for a pack of smokes and never come home again... are people jumping to defend this woman because she's female??

polaris_x

it's called compassion ... it's putting it out there in the universe that it is easy to judge but often we judge without knowing all the facts ... as a society - we are more adept at jumping on someone when they are down instead of helping them up ...

no one really knows what compelled her to make the decision she did ... one that she currently feels a great deal of shame about ... the majority of us live cushy lives and i think sometimes we lose sight of what that means ...

PJ_Soul

polaris_x wrote:

it's called compassion ... it's putting it out there in the universe that it is easy to judge but often we judge without knowing all the facts ... as a society - we are more adept at jumping on someone when they are down instead of helping them up ...

no one really knows what compelled her to make the decision she did ... one that she currently feels a great deal of shame about ... the majority of us live cushy lives and i think sometimes we lose sight of what that means ...

I am only compassionate for those that deserve it. I don't see that this selfish woman does. If someone gives me a reason to feel compassion for her, then I will, but there is nothing I've read that tells me she deserves much more than contempt.

redrock

Women can be as much of an asshole as men PJ_Soul.

Whilst not quite 'defending' this lady, I am just asking why so quick to condemn. Sure, she seemed to have 'snapped' and just disappeared. Not much is said in this article so all is really speculation. But if it were planned, I would have thought someone would do a better job at the planning. It's not like she lived the life of Riley out there. Yes, she was going through troubled times, upset and she was maybe weaker than others. Many cope in her situation - and some much worse. She didn't - she saw a way out.

I would speak of a father in the same situation in the same way.

But here, it would seem that judgement has been made because she was a mother 'Ultimate betrayal, their Mother'

What I'm saying - we don't know what happened. We don't know why. We don't know what kind of life she had (obviously not incredible relationship as she was going through a divorce. We don't know her medical history or anything. Seems some people are more inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to proven killers than a person who seems to have had an 'episode'.