obamacare petition

Godfather.

While millions of Americans are set to suffer the consequences of Obamacare, Democrats in Congress are trying to find a way to exempt themselves and their staffs from the health insurance exchanges set up by this horrible legislation.
We have always known this law is a disaster, and now Democrats want special treatment while middle class Americans continue to bear the brunt.
If Obamacare isn't good enough for Harry Reid and his staff, it isn't good enough for us!


http://www.gop.com/w/everyone-should-be ... e-petition


Godfather.

Guitar92player

Because of Obamacare my uncle can have surgery done that couldn't be done before Obamacare.

So...yeah, not signing that. I know it ain't perfect, but it has helped my family so far.

Until the GOP can offer a "better" solution to Health Care, then they should stop wasting their energy on this and either:

A) Start doing things to make more jobs
Lower gas prices
C) They should start looking for new jobs because at the rate they are going they won't have a job much longer

BinFrog

Tell me how Obamacare affects you personally. Do you get health insurance through work?

Godfather.

Guitar92player wrote:

Because of Obamacare my uncle can have surgery done that couldn't be done before Obamacare.

So...yeah, not signing that. I know it ain't perfect, but it has helped my family so far.

Until the GOP can offer a "better" solution to Health Care, then they should stop wasting their energy on this and either:

A) Start doing things to make more jobs
Lower gas prices
C) They should start looking for new jobs because at the rate they are going they won't have a job much longer

cool.

Godfather.

Godfather.

BinFrog wrote:

Tell me how Obamacare affects you personally. Do you get health insurance through work?

I have insurance through work and has not affected me yet.

Godfather.

pandora

I read that some in Congress, the wealthier, may have to pay for insurance now
because there was not a provision for the Feds to pay 75% of their costs in the bill,
that is covered now.

That's what they want to change.

know1

Godfather. wrote:

BinFrog wrote:

Tell me how Obamacare affects you personally. Do you get health insurance through work?

I have insurance through work and has not affected me yet.

Godfather.

Our work told us that next year they may opt to pay the penalty and not offer us insurance. They think both the company and employees will be better off financially if we get our own insurance through the insurance exchange. This is likely due to it being a fairly small company.

mickeyrat

Godfather. wrote:

BinFrog wrote:

Tell me how Obamacare affects you personally. Do you get health insurance through work?

I have insurance through work and has not affected me yet.

Godfather.

yep, my rates dropped a few dollars a week for the same plan I had when I signed upon becoming eligible last year. DAMN YOU OBAMA!!!!!!!

Godfather.

don't you guy's find it just a little comunistic (did I just make that word up ? ) that an insurance plan is basically forced on people or that our taxes will cover those that don't work and just the thought of all that tax money we are trusting that some half assed politions will use that money for obamacare and not some other bullshit agenda that don't help the American people at all...then tell us the tax fund is drying up we need to raise the obamacare taxes, I see mountains of bullshit headed our way ..mark my words.

Godfather.

Guitar92player

Godfather. wrote:

don't you guy's find it just a little comunistic (did I just make that word up ? ) that an insurance plan is basically forced on people or that our taxes will cover those that don't work and just the thought of all that tax money we are trusting that some half assed politions will use that money for obamacare and not some other bullshit agenda that don't help the American people at all...then tell us the tax fund is drying up we need to raise the obamacare taxes, I see mountains of bullshit headed our way ..mark my words.

Godfather.

Not at all. I don't care who did this, whether it was Bush, Obama, or Reagan. This Health Care system is better than what we had previously. It's not perfect, but its better. I think its kind of dumb to basically be paying for everyone through taxes, but at the same time its good to know people are being taken care of and being treated with proper medical care. I think some revisions need to be made, not a full repeal of it.

I think its really ignorant when you say "those who don't work." It puts a negative meaning to that. I have a few family members out of work, not because they are "lazy" but for various reasons including business being shut down, medical reasons, etc. How you said it makes me think you think that not working equals lazy, undeserving people.

If that is not what you mean, then I apologize. But that is what I got from it.

mickeyrat

Godfather. wrote:

don't you guy's find it just a little comunistic (did I just make that word up ? ) that an insurance plan is basically forced on people or that our taxes will cover those that don't work and just the thought of all that tax money we are trusting that some half assed politions will use that money for obamacare and not some other bullshit agenda that don't help the American people at all...then tell us the tax fund is drying up we need to raise the obamacare taxes, I see mountains of bullshit headed our way ..mark my words.

Godfather.

just who do you think was paying for all those ER as primary care unpaid bills? As I see it, its the same money , but perhaps able to be spent jsut a little wiser? And allow those who slip through the cracks anyway to be able to get care?

Godfather.

Guitar92player wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

don't you guy's find it just a little comunistic (did I just make that word up ? ) that an insurance plan is basically forced on people or that our taxes will cover those that don't work and just the thought of all that tax money we are trusting that some half assed politions will use that money for obamacare and not some other bullshit agenda that don't help the American people at all...then tell us the tax fund is drying up we need to raise the obamacare taxes, I see mountains of bullshit headed our way ..mark my words.

Godfather.

Not at all. I don't care who did this, whether it was Bush, Obama, or Reagan. This Health Care system is better than what we had previously. It's not perfect, but its better. I think its kind of dumb to basically be paying for everyone through taxes, but at the same time its good to know people are being taken care of and being treated with proper medical care. I think some revisions need to be made, not a full repeal of it.

I think its really ignorant when you say "those who don't work." It puts a negative meaning to that. I have a few family members out of work, not because they are "lazy" but for various reasons including business being shut down, medical reasons, etc. How you said it makes me think you think that not working equals lazy, undeserving people.

If that is not what you mean, then I apologize. But that is what I got from it.

no I didn't mean "lazy people" especially during these times but that being said there are plenty of people that make a living off the system that are perfectly able to work.

and I also stand by my statement about half assed politions and by that I mean dem's and republicans and anybody else in government that are not trust worthy and judging by past records I find it hard to trust any polition when it comes to our tax money.

Godfather.

Godfather.

mickeyrat wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

don't you guy's find it just a little comunistic (did I just make that word up ? ) that an insurance plan is basically forced on people or that our taxes will cover those that don't work and just the thought of all that tax money we are trusting that some half assed politions will use that money for obamacare and not some other bullshit agenda that don't help the American people at all...then tell us the tax fund is drying up we need to raise the obamacare taxes, I see mountains of bullshit headed our way ..mark my words.

Godfather.

just who do you think was paying for all those ER as primary care unpaid bills? As I see it, its the same money , but perhaps able to be spent jsut a little wiser? And allow those who slip through the cracks anyway to be able to get care?

it will be the same money but just a lot more of it and you don't have a choice now,something needed to be done but I don't think obama care is it, just my opinion.

Godfather.

Abuskedti

BinFrog wrote:

Tell me how Obamacare affects you personally. Do you get health insurance through work?

I have twin sons, 24 years old that are now covered on my insurance plan.

gimmesometruth27

the only way i would sign that is if we got universal single payer in exchange.

know1

Abuskedti wrote:

BinFrog wrote:

Tell me how Obamacare affects you personally. Do you get health insurance through work?

I have twin sons, 24 years old that are now covered on my insurance plan.

You could have bought them a plan on your own for probably cheaper....but I guess it's better to be handed something even if it costs more.

gimmesometruth27

know1 wrote:

Abuskedti wrote:

BinFrog wrote:

Tell me how Obamacare affects you personally. Do you get health insurance through work?

I have twin sons, 24 years old that are now covered on my insurance plan.

You could have bought them a plan on your own for probably cheaper....but I guess it's better to be handed something even if it costs more.

that is completely opposite of everything i have been told by people who sell insurance. they said that individual and family policies purchased outside of work plans are more expensive a lot of the time. :?

COBRA is much more expensive, i know that for a fact.

BinFrog

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

that is completely opposite of everything i have been told by people who sell insurance. they said that individual and family policies purchased outside of work plans are more expensive a lot of the time. :?

COBRA is much more expensive, i know that for a fact.

Stop it....you're making too much sense.

know1

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

that is completely opposite of everything i have been told by people who sell insurance. they said that individual and family policies purchased outside of work plans are more expensive a lot of the time. :?

COBRA is much more expensive, i know that for a fact.

Have you looked into it? Before and after we were married, we had an individual policy for my wife. It was cheaper than being on my company's insurance at the time. I changed employers and it's cheaper here now, but the insurance isn't as good as what she had.

My point is that people think insurance doesn't exist outside of an employer, but for a relatively healthy 24 year old, you could get a high deductible plan for very little.

Godfather.

know1 wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

that is completely opposite of everything i have been told by people who sell insurance. they said that individual and family policies purchased outside of work plans are more expensive a lot of the time. :?

COBRA is much more expensive, i know that for a fact.

Have you looked into it? Before and after we were married, we had an individual policy for my wife. It was cheaper than being on my company's insurance at the time. I changed employers and it's cheaper here now, but the insurance isn't as good as what she had.

My point is that people think insurance doesn't exist outside of an employer, but for a relatively healthy 24 year old, you could get a high deductible plan for very little.

a good friend of mine(53 years old non smoker in good shape) lost his job and the cheapest insurance he could find for he and his son who was 18 at the time was $1400 a month, thru work it cost me aprox,$400 a month with a $15 deductable for my wife ,son and I .


Godfather.

Jeanwah

Really, Godfather? How can we have a reasonable discussion when the petition you want us to sign is from the GOP?

You may as well start posting links from Fox News again.