Camden...shithole, Shithole, Shithole

Bird888

I definately liked the vibe better at the Spectrum and Wachovia shows. Night 1, some guy in our section blew lunch before the show even began. Another guy threatened another's life because he wouldn't take off his baseball cap. His wife couldn't see. Of course it didn't matter cause the dude that was threatening people was so wasted that he passed out during the first set! and these were 10c seats. But I met a really cool couple from Pittsburgh who made it all worthwhile!!

Night 2 we saw less drunks and aholes. I am originally from Philly but live in VA now. I makes me sad to see others act so stupid.

Yea, Camden sucks. But when they booked the shows, the Flyers were still in the playoffs so maybe the Wachovia wasn't available.

Don't forget, the success of the new cd, and singles does tend to bring out people who aren't the most seasoned fan

Blind3

Philly crowds suck? 2 shows in 98, 2 in 2000, 3 in 03, 1 in 05. 3 if you include 2 Borgata ,which probably drew a whole lotta Phily addy-tude. Dude, GIMME SOME TRUTH !! If there is suck in Philly crowds, ya can't see it from my house. Philly, Camdelphia,AC...I'm DOWN with it. I'm going every time without fail.

Otherwise , go back to sleep.Speaking of East Rutherford, didn't it just get GARDEN spot of the year ? Not!

off_the_record

everyone bitching please dont come to camden again and give the people who actually had a good time better seats.

LongRoad

DeLukin wrote:

Yea, I wasn't impressed with the Tweeter Center or Camden in general. The only good thing about it was being able to hear the sound check because it was (sort of) outdoors. And even though I risked my life in the 2 hour trek from the trash infested parking lot to the BF bridge (which should've taken 30 mins if anyone would've cared enough to direct traffic) after the show, the concert itself was so great I would do it again in a minute. I must be a masochist.

Thanks for nothing Camden. Thanks for a great show Pearl Jam!

That's why me and my girl bolted out of there as soon as we heard RITFW start up.
We were getting in our car right as it was ending and probably back at our Hotel just as Ledbetter was ending.

Biggest Wave

LongRoad wrote:

That's why me and my girl bolted out of there as soon as we heard RITFW start up.
We were getting in our car right as it was ending and probably back at our Hotel just as Ledbetter was ending.

ooooo, you left early. There's a thread all about people leaving early and how it disrespects the band and how you're not a real Pearl Jam Fan. I commend you for leaving early. How many times can you actually sit there and listen to the same two songs end a show. Good move.

kronix

bee_boy wrote:

No, seriously, Is Camden underpopulated? How come no one has started bitching about this thread? They must know it's a shit town. (Not that I would know, I've never been there)

Trust me, the actual people that live in Camden don't even know who PJ is, nor could afford tickets. They only know that when a concert is there it means drug sales, car break ins & robbery attempts. Camden population is 75% African American, 23% Hispanic & 2% White Trash. Is that the demographic of Pearl Jam fans? I think not.

All in all, it was another great chance to see PJ, just get to the venue & get out.

Rival In Hiding

I'm laughing out loud at these posts. After the show, the asshole frat boy types in the car next to us in the parking lot started smashing their beer bottles against the wall or the ground. They must have smashed a case of empty bottles all over the parking lot.

So disgusting. I hope they ran over their mess and had all four tires go flat in the middle of Camden.

That place really, really sucks.

BoltOfLightnin'

Yes the city of Camden is not a nice place, and like someone above posted, it's not the people FROM Camden attending PJ shows. That said, in regard to the trash, drunks, balloons, etc.....it's no different in Philly.

Now, the first night I was inside and the sound was pretty good. Last night on the lawn, it could have been a little lounder...specially since there ARE a lot of big mouths out there, but for the most part, a lot of the people around me were into the show...even the new songs!

Anyway, like others have already said as well, if you are a 10C member with a lower number than me...then PLEASE DON'T 'come back' to camden!

LeilaMoonTurtle

are the pj fans not the ones breaking beer bottles and lleaving a mess after the tailgate party?

kronix wrote:

Trust me, the actual people that live in Camden don't even know who PJ is, nor could afford tickets. They only know that when a concert is there it means drug sales, car break ins & robbery attempts. Camden population is 75% African American, 23% Hispanic & 2% White Trash. Is that the demographic of Pearl Jam fans? I think not.

All in all, it was another great chance to see PJ, just get to the venue & get out.

LeilaMoonTurtle

Completely agree with you

it was my first time there and it was fine

groovN wrote:

please, please, please all of you complainers (and i hope your fan club # is lower then mine) stay the hell home next time!!!!

camden is a great place to see a concert. been there tons of times, never, ever, ever had a problem. yes there is crime there but the areas near the venue are totally safe with TONS of police. we go there on newyearseve to see the fireworks with our kids. absolutely no problems!

the best concerts memories of my life took place at that venue, so please stay home and let me be closer next time

tonights concert was fucking amazing!



oh, and about the guido remark - im just a mick from south jersey, but the italian folks round here are awesome. the crowd was great, the lawn is always great, my 10club seats (row t) were great! im a happy girl

moemoe6434

Hmmm opening song night II:

Oh please let it Rain today,
This city is so filthy.

Xboxjunkie

groovN wrote:

you guys are so full of crap. i dont know where you all live, but camden is not much different from any other city. stay on the main roads and you are fine. but that goes without saying. there are so many concert goers and cops there that its safe.

we had the balls to pull over and go to the liquor store in Camden! The beers (cases) were all taped up, Fridges all had locks on them, the cashier had bullet glass in front. My friend was asking for direction from this guy out front and he points in this direction with his arm raised and wouldn't you know it he had a GUN in his waist! I was scared alive taking out my wallet to pay!

Its 3rd world there, houses falling apart, no windows, crack whores walking around asking for change. Words can't describe how bad it is there.

Jeff Murray

Maybe Pearl Jam wanted to give their fans a view of what poverty really looks like. Green Disease will not help those areas that need it until there is opportunity ($$) involved. Almost as funny as the Starbucks news story on CNN about how they help rebuild communities. Okay let's get them hooked on our overpriced coffee and run out the mom and pop diner's out of business. Did anyone see a Starbucks in Camden?

Off topic a little but made me think.

PureandEasy

off_the_record wrote:

everyone bitching please dont come to camden again and give the people who actually had a good time better seats.

ha, perfect

I was a little taken back by people being so inconsiderate as to not even use the many dumpsters that were available. Leaving shit all over the parking lot is ridiculous.

a lot of you are talking about the assholes themselves and associating them with being from the Philly/Jersey area. Alot of you came from out of town, what makes you think the particular assholes you encountered were not from out of town too.

There are assholes EVERYWHERE.

To the person who sat in Section 204, I was in 104 both nights and encountered the same problem with the sound

first time ever at the Tweeter, usually the sound is good

idratherbe

I had a great time at the shows, and the group I was with brought trash bags and USED THEM. I was appalled by the 'trash' behavior in both Camden and Detroit. People thinking it's funny to launch a bottle over their shoulder and hear it smash. Nice. The way some people treat our one and only Earth makes me ill.

I agree with PureandEasy, not all fans there are FROM there (hell NONE of the fans are really FROM there as far as Camden goes!!!); we came from the west coast. Assholes are everywhere.

A big fuck you goes to the chicks peeing out the side door of the van in full view of our group, real classy, you have a van rented with a driver and streaming pee all over the area you're hanging out in, with the port-a-can 50 yards away with a line less than 5 minutes long. Reeeeeeeeal nice. Next time maybe have a friend hold a towel up if you're too lame to make the 50 yard walk to take a pee.

Yeah so Camden isn't the greatest city in the world, but the venue on the water/park side is nice. The sound on the left side of the venue BLOWS ASS, unfortunately. :( Anyway, all of you who hate it, please stay away in the future because next time I'd like to be much closer than row W, and I plan to be there partying and enjoying the best band on earth with my Philly-area friends.

~peace~

Placid Blue

kidapollo wrote:

I wouldn't go back to Camden, either. I sat in the lawn with my friends rather than using my 10C tickets .

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Why in the world would you not use your 10c tickets? You know I could of used them.

I tell you I've been on the lawn twice at Tweeter and I will NEVER stand on the lawn again. Especially after a crappy Dave Matthews concert and some skanky girl decided to take a piss right on the lawn.
Another problem with PJ fans and not pointing fingers because I don't know any of you here but from my experiences at the 4 shows I've seen so far there are so many drunks that come to the shows. Some wind up throwing up if not on you than near your feet, they pass out, they do dire things. Those people certainly need to not drink. Why not go get drunk after the show that way you will remember the show.

I also want to point out that the people who go to the Tweeter Center do not live in Camden. If they are not traveling from all over the U.S. or world, than they live in Philly or other towns in New Jersey.

I met the guys in R.E.M. in that Tweeter Center back in 1999 so I kind of have a softspot for the seated area of that venue. But one thing I found interesting was when Michael Stipe asked the group of us who were there for the soundcheck this: "Does anyone here actually live in Camden" All twenty some people shook their heads NO.

Flagg

Speaking as another out-of-towner (from Texas), I have to say that I didn't experience any of these problems. Yeah, the parking lot was a fucking mess but I didn't park there. I and the group I was with heeded the advice Philly people on the board gave us and stayed in Philly and took the ferry across. It wasn't hard. Philly Phlash to Penn's Landing, get on the ferry. And the wait after the show wasn't that bad. It was just more opportunity to sit and talk with people. Ferry across, find a cab, get something to eat at that 24 hour diner on 18th Street. Seriously, it wasn't that difficult. You never have to even see Camden.

I probably won't be back, but that is only because I like to try different places every time.

Oh, and I thought the Tweeter was just OK as a venue, nothing more. No different than any other outdoor shed I've been to. I couldn't hear Mike at all on the first night or see shit but it seemed much better on the 2nd night, and I could see (200, row C).

As to the complaints about people on the lawn being a-holes. I've seen that at almost every outdoor venue.

LongRoad

Flagg wrote:

It was just more opportunity to sit and talk with people.

See, that's a problem for me right there. I'm not really interested in what other people have to say
and I can't stand when people that I don't know try to start a conversation with me.
My girl is exactly the same way so we're happy taking our chances in a locked car navigating
through the broken down cars and abandoned buildings. While we were there we said we'd never go back,
but I know if the band played there again and it was one of the only shows in the area, I'd go again.

Xboxjunkie

LongRoad wrote:

and I can't stand when people that I don't know try to start a conversation with me.
My girl is exactly the same way

Perfect match!

if you don't like having conversations, what are you doing here?

LongRoad

Xboxjunkie wrote:

Perfect match!

if you don't like having conversations, what are you doing here?

Here on the board?

It's a little different than having to listen to someone go on and on about their miserable lives and being face to face with them. Most people give me a headache and I really don't give a fuck about their miserable lives or what they did for the weekend or what they had for dinner or what they think about.......whatever.

Here I can read what I choose and walk away anytime I want.