kermit gosnell - american hero

ajedigecko

I believe it should be news worthy. Two reasons.

1. Pro abortion side: this should not happen.
2 anti abortion side: this should not happen.

PJ_Soul

ajedigecko wrote:

I believe it should be news worthy. Two reasons.

1. Pro abortion side: this should not happen.
2 anti abortion side: this should not happen.

I totally agree. But it's the spin it would almost certainly be given that would concern me. In any case, what a sick fuck. And I can't say I feel bad for his staff who went along with it either. I hope they get their just desserts as well. I am not a fan of the I was just following orders defense.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

I am pro choice. Although I hesitate to say it in this thread.

I feel there has to be a window for the procedure though. Once development of the fetus becomes advanced... I would be inclined to agree with some that suggest this is a little too late for deciding against delivering the child. Some of the aborted fetuses described and depicted in these gruesome pages certainly lend support for this. When an aborted fetus comes out of the womb crying... this is a bit of an issue to say the least.

Bearing resemblance to an underground abortion clinic where procedures are done zealously with coat hangers, this case is a disgusting one. It seems as if the clinic went out of its way to make the place extra horrific.

PJ_Soul

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

I am pro choice. Although I hesitate to say it in this thread.

I feel there has to be a window for the procedure though. Once development of the fetus becomes advanced... I would be inclined to agree with some that suggest this is a little too late for deciding against delivering the child. Some of the aborted fetuses described and depicted in these gruesome pages certainly lend support for this. When an aborted fetus comes out of the womb crying... this is a bit of an issue to say the least.

Bearing resemblance to an underground abortion clinic where procedures are done zealously with coat hangers, this case is a disgusting one. It seems as if the clinic went out of its way to make the place extra horrific.

Agree with you 100%.
I mean, the laws does say that if the fetus comes out of the womb crying, and you kill it (or don't try to save it), that's murder. So that's all good. But I think there is plenty of room in the pro-choice platform to insist upon an absolute cut-off for when an optional abortion can be performed (not that this Kermit psycho would have cared about it). It's not an all or nothing issue at all as far as I'm concerned.

ajedigecko

if the clinical definition of death is - when the heart stops beating.

i believe the inverse to be true.

hedonist

I just saw that some of the charges against him were dropped.

ajedigecko

hedonist wrote:

I just saw that some of the charges against him were dropped.

...
me too....

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... 0626,d.b2I

ajedigecko

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t0NgPMnMjE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxOWyumL ... e=youtu.be

ajedigecko

...gay basketball - chemical weapons - day after pills - sequestration...and in other news.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kate-mich ... it-gosnell

Bentleyspop

ajedigecko wrote:

...gay basketball - chemical weapons - day after pills - sequestration...and in other news.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kate-mich ... it-gosnell

Taken from the article you linked above....

Pennsylvania is not alone in developing strategies to regulate abortion care right out of existence. In fact, state legislatures have enacted 135 abortion restrictions in the last two years, according to the Guttmacher Institute.

For readers who feel this doesn't apply to them, mark our words, it does, because it is likely that you know someone who has had an abortion. One in three women will have an abortion by the time she is 45. Between 30 and 40 million women have had abortions since Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973.

History tells us that whether abortion is legal or illegal, women will have abortions - the only difference is whether women live or die. As in the pre-Roe days, women with resources can usually find quality care; but those without resources will often seek out the cheapest possible care. The long-term impact of burdening and stigmatizing abortion care could be that the most vulnerable women will once again have to risk their health and lives to get what should be a completely safe and common medical procedure.
Kate Michelman is President Emeritus of NARAL Pro-Choice America and co-chair of WomenVote Pa, an initiative of the Women's Law Project.

Carol E. Tracy is Executive Director of the Women's Law Project and co-chair of WomenVote Pa, an initiative of the Women's Law Project.

otter

I think people should not get in trouble when a child dies for any reason until the child can talk in complete sentences. Who are we as a society to say how a parent interacts with the person THEY create? If this new person can't talk and express themselves are they truly a person? I think life begins at expression; there should be no laws against allowing nature to take its course regarding a so called "baby" surviving on it's own. It's not really life if a human cant fend for it's self or say they need help.

I think republicans are just trying to disagree with the President because it is pretty obvious that it is the "mother's" choice what she or he wants to do with their body and what their body creates, next the republicans will try to tell women they can't throw away a snot rag or flush a pile of shit down the toilet. It's the same thing.

We have to stand strong against those who are trying to tell people what to do with their body!

hedonist

otter wrote:

I think people should not get in trouble when a child dies for any reason until the child can talk in complete sentences. Who are we as a society to say how a parent interacts with the person THEY create? If this new person can't talk and express themselves are they truly a person? I think life begins at expression; there should be no laws against allowing nature to take its course regarding a so called "baby" surviving on it's own. It's not really life if a human cant fend for it's self or say they need help.

Not gonna address the political comment, but please...tell me this is sarcasm.

ajedigecko

some can hear you...

http://drudgegae.iavian.net/r?hop=http: ... crock-pot/

aerial

OnTheEdge wrote:

http://www.lifesitenews.com/blog/breaking-eric-holders-wife-co-owns-abortion-clinic-building-run-by-indicted

Davis pointed to cases in which activists have sued Planned Parenthood for alleged Medicaid fraud – in Georgia, Iowa, Texas, New York, and Massachusetts – but where Holder’s Justice Department has failed to act.

“The U.S. attorney general has not at all pursued a case against any of them, including this one in Georgia where his wife owns the property,” Davis said.

Also

Margaret Sanger has been lauded by some as a woman of valor, but a closer look reveals that Planned Parenthood’s audacious founder had some unsavory things to say about matters of race, birth control, and abortion. An outspoken eugenicist herself, Sanger consistently promoted racist ideals with a contemptuous attitude. Read on to learn why Planned Parenthood hides behind a false memory of Sanger, and why, despite her extraordinarily prolific writing career, one rarely sees her quoted by Planned Parenthood leaders and apologists

"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."


http://www.lifenews.com/2013/03/11/10-eye-opening-quotes-from-planned-parenthood-founder-margaret-sanger/



I have to admit I knew nothing about Planned Parenthood except they council pregnant women....and the obvious...

ajedigecko

why would they even entertain the idea of "death" for the cleveland kidnapper?


individual kills a baby....murder.

business kills a baby...business.

the wolf

I'm Pro Choice, and this story sickens me to death.
I would love some time alone with this guy, and ANY other person in white coat that does this sort of thing.
As with everything, there will always be extremes.
This is horrible. Disgusting.

Go Beavers

unsung wrote:

3300 abortions daily in the US, but instead we have to ban some rifles.

I support free birth control for all, too.

BinauralJam

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... l/2138541/

there you go

JimmyV

May the rest of his days be miserable and his punishment be both harsh and final.

ajedigecko

JimmyV wrote:

May the rest of his days be miserable and his punishment be both harsh and final.

indeed.