New World Order

Hugh Freaking Dillon

am I on Mars reading this stuff??

Bentleyspop

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

am I on Mars reading this stuff??

Unfortunately you are not

Just for shits and giggles, I googled this. In order, it brings up:
World net daily
Theblaze
Infowars
Fox
Breitbart

Yee haw, baby, that's the creme de la creme of stupidity!

peacefrompaul

"Swayin' to the rhythm of the new world order and.... counting bodies like sheep to the rhythm of the war drums."

hedonist

peacefrompaul wrote:

"Swayin' to the rhythm of the new world order and.... counting bodies like sheep to the rhythm of the war drums."

Read my mind....every time I see the thread title!

Go figure

DriftingByTheStorm

Bentleyspop wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

am I on Mars reading this stuff??

Unfortunately you are not

Just for shits and giggles, I googled this. In order, it brings up:
World net daily
Theblaze
Infowars
Fox
Breitbart

Yee haw, baby, that's the creme de la creme of stupidity!

i would add forums.pearljam.com to your creme list.

dancepartner

NEW WORLD ORDER. Aside from original OP about what the VP said, this is what I now think of when I see NWO; it's a fascinating video of graffiti artist Kalen Ockerman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9p8Og6-YcY&feature=plcpdepicting his version of NWO.
Also, has anyone seen the movie ZEITGEIST?

OnTheEdge

dancepartner wrote:

NEW WORLD ORDER. Aside from original OP about what the VP said, this is what I now think of when I see NWO; it's a fascinating video of graffiti artist Kalen Ockerman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9p8Og6-YcY&feature=plcpdepicting his version of NWO.
Also, has anyone seen the movie ZEITGEIST?

I agree. For the life of me I can't understand all the faith people have in bigger government.

DriftingByTheStorm

OnTheEdge wrote:

dancepartner wrote:

NEW WORLD ORDER. Aside from original OP about what the VP said, this is what I now think of when I see NWO; it's a fascinating video of graffiti artist Kalen Ockerman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9p8Og6-YcY&feature=plcpdepicting his version of NWO.
Also, has anyone seen the movie ZEITGEIST?

I agree. For the life of me I can't understand all the faith people have in bigger government.

@Dancepartner:
yes. and have you seen Zeitgeist III?
I'm confused by your comment, because you seem to be "anti-NWO" but Zeitgeist is essentially a giant propaganda piece FOR the NWO.

@OnTheEdge:
I don't think it is necessarily "bigger government" in the specific sense that you mean it (ie. One World Global Government, ie. global dictatorship) ... from what i understand of the ACTUAL literature of those involved in "conspiring" to bring about the "new world order", it is a planned transition towards a more fully intergrated society, with a cooperatively agreed upon set of rules that would apply to everybody, instead of selectively by country. They want us to all play fairly and cooperatively by a common set of rules, with a much more humanistic outlook. It is also not "anti-religion". The "new world order" and "the new age" are sort of different ways of describing the same animal (and their writers use both terms) and they want a deeply religious world (or one with a deep reverence for god and eachother)

dancepartner

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

OnTheEdge wrote:

dancepartner wrote:

NEW WORLD ORDER. Aside from original OP about what the VP said, this is what I now think of when I see NWO; it's a fascinating video of graffiti artist Kalen Ockerman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9p8Og6-YcY&feature=plcpdepicting his version of NWO.
Also, has anyone seen the movie ZEITGEIST?

I agree. For the life of me I can't understand all the faith people have in bigger government.

@Dancepartner:
yes. and have you seen Zeitgeist III?
I'm confused by your comment, because you seem to be "anti-NWO" but Zeitgeist is essentially a giant propaganda piece FOR the NWO.

@OnTheEdge:
I don't think it is necessarily "bigger government" in the specific sense that you mean it (ie. One World Global Government, ie. global dictatorship) ... from what i understand of the ACTUAL literature of those involved in "conspiring" to bring about the "new world order", it is a planned transition towards a more fully intergrated society, with a cooperatively agreed upon set of rules that would apply to everybody, instead of selectively by country. They want us to all play fairly and cooperatively by a common set of rules, with a much more humanistic outlook. It is also not "anti-religion". The "new world order" and "the new age" are sort of different ways of describing the same animal (and their writers use both terms) and they want a deeply religious world (or one with a deep reverence for god and eachother)

Drifting; yeah, I am confused. Months ago I stumbled on Kalen's graffiti. It was the first time I'd seen NWO talked about as a norm, something more than Dan Brown fictional stuff. Then lately, I stumbled onto a writing from Fredrico Pistono, & from there, I got a new take on what NWO meant to others. Then, I was talking to a friend about this writer & his version of Zeitgeist & my friend asked if I'd seen the movie 'Zeitgeist" & highly recommended it. So, I bought it & watched it a few weeks ago. I'm still pissed. Not about the religious stuff as I did know much of that, but about 9/11. Bombs heard moments before collapse? Training sessions delaying F1 fighters? Is this stuff real? If so, I feel it's just another part of what we are fed & I bought into it.
So anyway, I'm reading your posts about writers of NWO. I guess I have some edeecatun' to do! There is a Zeitgeist III? Is 9/11 covered in #1 or 2?

DriftingByTheStorm

dancepartner wrote:

Drifting; yeah, I am confused. Months ago I stumbled on Kalen's graffiti. It was the first time I'd seen NWO talked about as a norm, something more than Dan Brown fictional stuff. Then lately, I stumbled onto a writing from Fredrico Pistono, & from there, I got a new take on what NWO meant to others. Then, I was talking to a friend about this writer & his version of Zeitgeist & my friend asked if I'd seen the movie 'Zeitgeist" & highly recommended it. So, I bought it & watched it a few weeks ago. I'm still pissed. Not about the religious stuff as I did know much of that, but about 9/11. Bombs heard moments before collapse? Training sessions delaying F1 fighters? Is this stuff real? If so, I feel it's just another part of what we are fed & I bought into it.
So anyway, I'm reading your posts about writers of NWO. I guess I have some edeecatun' to do! There is a Zeitgeist III? Is 9/11 covered in #1 or 2?

Hey Dancepartner.
I just googled Fredric Pistono, because I had not seen that name before.
I found a TEDx talk by him, entitled "Robots will steal your job, but that's okay" ...
and it is very much in line with both Zeitgeist II and III as well as with the underlying texts of philosophers and thinkers who inspired that film series ... if you want a one sentence clip to clearly indicate to you the absolute connection between his thoughts and "the new world order", just watch here at the sentence it starts on. Sure he could be talking about a few things here, but if you rewind it just a few seconds before, you here him talking about the game of "full employment" and if you take it in the context of his entire speech (robots will steal your job, and thats okay) it is pretty obvious where he is taking you ... there is a plan (and has been since the 1500's when the rosicrucian manifestos were released, if not arguably for almost 4000 years since the philosopher-king reign of Akhenaten\Amenhotep IV whom the great writers of Masonry adorn with praise) ... there is a plan afoot to have the world "turn a corner" from this paradigm to another ... from one of competition and resource exploitation, and of ever increasing "atheism" and god-hate, to one of universal brotherly love, cooperation, reverence for nature AND for god (and for the god WITHIN us all ... see the most poignant passages of John ... this is a forward looking vision though, and not a backward looking one ... if you want a very cursory and dated example of this, go read the published portion of Bacon's The New Atlantis, where you can understand that the pushers of this "New World Order" philosophy celebrate both religion (the true knowledge of god) AND SCIENCE ... and that they wish for the integration of these two opposites (popularly perceived to be so, anyhow) to be the ruling wisdom of the "new age".

I have come to realize that we as a global society must start coming to accept the majority of these claims and beliefs, to submit our modifications to those parts which we find "not truth" and to get one with getting on,to join the cause for a global family, and not to fight in fear and ignorance against it ... but to accept that those brilliant minds that came before us already fleshed out the root of a plan (and indeed the greatest among us have repeatedly insisted that this plan is divine in origin) and that we must not try to strike down and reinvent the wheel, but join the cause, and as the bible says, play our part as stones in building the temple of the lord on this earth.

wow that was probably 10x too heady for this board.
sorry.
off to work.


ps -- regarding 9/11 that is an entirely different subject, but i can tell you there is a world of difference between those that know and sense the plan and believe explicitly in "right methods to right intentions" (white magicians) and those that believe in using "wrong methods towards right intentions" (or just outright wrong methods and wrong intentions) ... and with respect to the numbers of the flights (11-north tower, 77 pentagon, 175-south tower and 93-shanksville - possibly headed to capitol) you should look here (this is from one of his books), here (symbol on left), here (Liber 175 - just read the first sentence, should be enough to get you there), and here (symbol top left)

Godfather.

brianlux wrote:

"Chicks on the Right". I must add that to my "get it while it's hot" news sources.

I'm luv'in it

Godfather.

dancepartner

Drifting,
Your are right -- that's allot to digest. I will sift thru this thread in the next few days & get back to you on it. For now, I'm going with this:
1) NWO, a coming of age for humanity to peacefully co-exist, was a philosophy long before the ultra ultra rich & powerful (JP Morgan, Vanderbilt & Co) got credited with it. Am I on the right track?
2) Zeitgeist: "Spirit of the Time or Age". It is in reference to the preferences of the culture at large." This is the basic definition I find but somewhere, (don't have time to find it) I read this breaks down more; Is the spirit of the times molded by the very few -- rich, powerful, the brains of the times, or are they but a mere by-product of society at large? I see it like they are the surface water which breaks into a wave & we are the ebb & flow, the unstoppable current. So, Edison, Tesla, Graham Bell, Ben Franklin might have given us irreversible inventions, but they became so because the mass wanted, or were ready for, those inventions. Whereas, had those guys tried electricity on a society 500 yrs earlier, they may have been burned at the stake!
On the right track here?
Anyway, Fredrico's book is good. I feel validated -- by a boy. It's a book I think everyone should read in order to get a better idea of where we are headed. And though I agree with the premise that we, individually, make up that unstoppable current & so it's just a matter of what choices we make in order to grapple with the many irreversible changes we are currently in the midst of, I very much disagree with embracing a full steam headlong rush into the next irreversible super grade-A, Artificial Intelligence juncture.

Pistono, as the nature of any scientist, I suspect they get so caught up in their inventing, in their fantasizing about all the endless possibilities that they & their inventions come with, their scope becomes tunneled. I'd guess it's incredibly frustrating to be gifted with such brainpower, capable of making incomprehensible inventions, only to be judged & possibly reduced by such a fickle & seemingly mindless, body of support. Maybe that's why Zeitgeist is ultimately of our making. Though messy, we've kept humanity trudging toward a more peaceful co-existence, toward whatever Utopian version we hold, cuz innately, we know this trudge can only continue at a pace in which we're ready for.
Pistono, also like any scientist so inclined, writes much about the exponential growth rate of technology almost like a dire warning, but then, most end their writings or speeches on a giddy note about all the endless techno-possibilities. They all make a point to say humans adapt turtle-like slowly by comparison, but then don't seem to make the connection that when something huge & -- IRREVERSIBLE -- comes along that we aren't ready for -- shit hits the fan. With Strong AI, this shit is called near-total, or total -- human annihilation.
As for the scientists calling for caution, (Bill Joy & Bill McFadden are 2) are currently being drowned out by the giddy camp. Why? Maybe that's the double edged meaning of NWO, the other part of this juncture we can't afford to forget.

Meanwhile, (imagine, I got carried away myself! :roll: ) I'll read more carefully thru your postings here. Thanks for the info, it is -- as usual -- right on time.

dancepartner

Well I'm pissed. Just spent an hour on this post then lost it. Unbeknownst to me, hotel server timed out.
Right now, I'm not in the mood to try again.
Sorry Drifting, I did read your material here & did look at the links you provided. I thought I had something worth saying about it all but then, when you lose it all -- ya gotta wonder.... :roll:

VV97517

Have you seen the artwork on pg 44 and 45 of the pj deep magazine? All seeing eye....

Guitar92player

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

aerial wrote:

I'm just glad your listening......and get it.

there's two contexts when referring to a New World Order. One, is the tin foil hatness of a totalitarian one world government you refer to above, and what the VP clearly is referring to, and that is new collective efforts to identify, understand, or address worldwide problems that go beyond the capacity of individual nation-states to solve. did you listen to anything beyond him saying the words "new world order"? He talked about the importance of the success of other world powers and non-powers alike, as everyone's success equals the success of the world market as a whole.

The only thing on here that makes sense.

I am sure most people who watched that video stopped after "new world order."