New World Order
OnTheEdge
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I can remember not too long ago being accused of wearing a tin foil hat just for mentioning this. Well, the time has come where now the progressives in our government openly admit that it's their agenda. And by progressives I mean our Vice President.
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Haven't even read it yet......just wanted to say they have been saying they are for The New World Order for years now.....it's just when you bring it up the left distract with name calling.......the rights in on it also...
So when does this new 'unleashing' begin, Joey? How about you and Junior unleash us from Obamacare, the Federal Reserve, executive orders, NDAA, drones, DHS ammo (and weapon and armored personnel carrier) purchases, TSA, gun control, 99 week unemployment benefits, highest corporate tax rates in the world, ILLEGAL immigrants, Solyndra et al, GM, bank bailouts, Fannie and Freddie, Gulf oil drilling moratorium, Keystone pipeline block, delays in approving about a dozen LNG export terminals, EPA, Department of Education and the United Nations? Get back to me next week and I'll have some more for you.
It's been right in front of your nose the whole time....
I don't even think a new world would order that. Yuk!
I'm sure they've been saying it for years, even Bush, i'm not ignoring that. But it seems to be the first time hearing it on video.
I'm just glad your listening......and get it.
there's two contexts when referring to a New World Order. One, is the tin foil hatness of a totalitarian one world government you refer to above, and what the VP clearly is referring to, and that is new collective efforts to identify, understand, or address worldwide problems that go beyond the capacity of individual nation-states to solve. did you listen to anything beyond him saying the words "new world order"? He talked about the importance of the success of other world powers and non-powers alike, as everyone's success equals the success of the world market as a whole.
or, maybe he was referring to this group:
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Yeah yeah. At first it was "put your tin foil hat on you crazy republican". Now that it's actually being talked about openly by government officials it's "not the same world order". Agenda 21 is Agenda 21. They can make it sound however they want, but it is what it is.
Yeah you gotta take their stuff with a grain of salt but video footage is video footage. No matter where it comes from.
That is true.
Putting on my own tin foil hat for a minute I have to say that worry about a new world order just seems like a lot of unnecessary expenditure of personal energy. Nothing that big can hold up. It's a small world, but not that small. If you want to worry about something, maybe look at environmental degradation or world disorder.
I think you are right, but for the wrong reasons, Brian. Right in that it should not "be worried about", but wrong that it will not hold up. But you are wrong because it is grossly misunderstood. The New World Order will be some sort of global grouping of man, but it will be respective of mans' rights, and actually intended to enshrine them more thoroughly throughout the world. The "perverse" steps being taken right now are either by those opposed to it, or perhaps by those in favor but who feel the necessity for wrong actions in support of right intentions (a position i disagree with).
If I opened it now would you not understand?
What's next?
You going to tell us that the space program never put a man on the moon?
The there were 3 shooters on the grassy knoll?
That Newtown was a govt plot to end the NRA?
That the Rothschilds control the worldwide finacial systems?
And of course you'll have to tell us about ZOG!!
:fp: :nono: :corn:
so are you of the mind that Agenda 21 is actually a conspiracy by the UN to rob America of its property rights?
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St. Paul 2014
And we can see how they are creating the crises.... destroying this country....sending weapons to people that hate this country....sending weapons to rebels in Syria that say it's okay to rape christian women. Our leaders are covering up details of how they are creating these crises so that the idiots believe they are doing what is right.
There will always be those that work harder. There will always be those that are trifling and lazy. Do they deserve the same anything except the right to freedom. Everyone is different NO ONE can change that.
The reason corporations run this country is because they want to be the Rulers. They are not doing it for the good of the people. Then you take there corporations away from them and then that person will be the Ruler.
Our Republic can work if we hold people accountable for there actions. Everyone! and run this country by the rule of law the way it was intended for EVERYONE rich or poor.
The person that wrote that is a mad man....
regarding Items 2 & 3 on that list, you have taken them out of context.
She is referring to World War II as the crisis and destruction to which the New World Order must address.
And yes, the plan is probably to move away from "the free market" to some sort of resource based economy. I'm not going to go in to this entire argument here. Some very salient points regarding the detrimental psychological impact of class inequality in a capitalist society are made in the third installment of the Zeitgeist series. If you can manage to make it through the somewhat boring presentation, it is worth the watch.
Regarding laziness and the fairness of resource distribution with relation to people's intrinsic motivation, you would have to realize that the entire premise of "the New World Order" (ie. if you read the books by Alice Bailey, who wrote this piece) is founded *entirely* upon the enlightenment of all mankind. She stresses over and over (among myriad deeply spiritual points) that the truly just order can only emerge once man has ordered his inner life to his and to his fellow man's best benefit. Maybe when people are surrounded by love and don't feel themselves marginalized, hated, and neglected, maybe then will they feel the desire to contribute. But this isn't just a cop out, as I have said, everyone must take responsibility for elevating their own station in life -- both their external *and* internal situation (ie. people both need to "do work" and "find god").
PS - you should also bear in mind that not everything that you see happening around you that seems conspiratorial is done by "the new world order". Just like you would expect in life (and just like Star Wars portrays, lol -- because trust me, Lucas was on about *way* more than just Cambell's myths and Jung's archetypes) there are Forces of Light and Forces of Darkness at play in this world. You need only look back to the history of the Knights Templar to have it made vividly clear that their are two sides raging at battle.
PPS - our republic's founding was spearheaded by a Grand Master Mason and Rosicrucian (Franklin), a Mason and Illuminist (Jefferson), and a Master Mason (Washington). The constitution was signed by the Grand Masters of the Masonic Lodges of four seperate colonies\states. And if you think all of that is coincidence, then you should just have a look at the reverse of the Great Seal of The United States.
America was meant to be a stepping stone toward something even greater. But first the shackles of the Old World Order in Europe (ie monarchy and the pope, and those that stood\stand behind both) had to be overthrown.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
It can never happen. The only place we will find no hate were everyone loves one another will be in heaven.
No disrespect.
On another note I am impressed with your vocabulary (wish I had one like yours).
I'm all for man's rights, Drifting, but only as long as women's rights, animal rights and planet's rights are restored as well. The latter is what I all too often see missing in any plan for a new world order. But to me, "world" (or planet or Gaia) is the important word here. Gaia is not just people- not even just people and animals, its the living organism which is the whole planet. If the health of the entire organism isn't taken into consideration, even a small link can cause permanent injury, disability or premature death. I know of a man who died from a small cut on one of his fingers. It was not attended to, became infected and eventually caused him to die.
If the whole organism is not taken into consideration, I won't be signing up any time soon.
I think you are being too shallow in your reading as well, Brian. Who do you think is pushing Agenda 21?
The illuminist fraternities consider the earth to be a living entity in ways that make "Gaia hypothesis" seem childish. They truly believe earth is a living, illumined soul, with a consciousness far above ours. I'm pretty sure they intend to pay it their respects. Again, there are other forces at work in this world. Also, see the Georgia guide stones for a fairly succinct statement of their commitment to planetary health.
AERIAL,
You are wrong about finding universal happiness in heaven, alone. If you read your own book with eyes to see and ears to hear yo would understand that "thy kingdom come ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN" is meant in all sincerity. The keepers of the ancient wisdom firmly believe that the will of god is for earth to become as heaven. In fact, yo should go re read the numerous NT passages that refer to "the kingdom of god" because that kingdom is to be HERE ... ON EARTH.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
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St. Paul 2014
Unfortunately you are not
Just for shits and giggles, I googled this. In order, it brings up:
World net daily
Theblaze
Infowars
Fox
Breitbart
Yee haw, baby, that's the creme de la creme of stupidity!
Go figure
i would add forums.pearljam.com to your creme list.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Also, has anyone seen the movie ZEITGEIST?
I agree. For the life of me I can't understand all the faith people have in bigger government.
@Dancepartner:
yes. and have you seen Zeitgeist III?
I'm confused by your comment, because you seem to be "anti-NWO" but Zeitgeist is essentially a giant propaganda piece FOR the NWO.
@OnTheEdge:
I don't think it is necessarily "bigger government" in the specific sense that you mean it (ie. One World Global Government, ie. global dictatorship) ... from what i understand of the ACTUAL literature of those involved in "conspiring" to bring about the "new world order", it is a planned transition towards a more fully intergrated society, with a cooperatively agreed upon set of rules that would apply to everybody, instead of selectively by country. They want us to all play fairly and cooperatively by a common set of rules, with a much more humanistic outlook. It is also not "anti-religion". The "new world order" and "the new age" are sort of different ways of describing the same animal (and their writers use both terms) and they want a deeply religious world (or one with a deep reverence for god and eachother)
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Drifting; yeah, I am confused. Months ago I stumbled on Kalen's graffiti. It was the first time I'd seen NWO talked about as a norm, something more than Dan Brown fictional stuff. Then lately, I stumbled onto a writing from Fredrico Pistono, & from there, I got a new take on what NWO meant to others. Then, I was talking to a friend about this writer & his version of Zeitgeist & my friend asked if I'd seen the movie 'Zeitgeist" & highly recommended it. So, I bought it & watched it a few weeks ago. I'm still pissed. Not about the religious stuff as I did know much of that, but about 9/11. Bombs heard moments before collapse? Training sessions delaying F1 fighters? Is this stuff real? If so, I feel it's just another part of what we are fed & I bought into it.
So anyway, I'm reading your posts about writers of NWO. I guess I have some edeecatun' to do! There is a Zeitgeist III? Is 9/11 covered in #1 or 2?
Hey Dancepartner.
I just googled Fredric Pistono, because I had not seen that name before.
I found a TEDx talk by him, entitled "Robots will steal your job, but that's okay" ...
and it is very much in line with both Zeitgeist II and III as well as with the underlying texts of philosophers and thinkers who inspired that film series ... if you want a one sentence clip to clearly indicate to you the absolute connection between his thoughts and "the new world order", just watch here at the sentence it starts on. Sure he could be talking about a few things here, but if you rewind it just a few seconds before, you here him talking about the game of "full employment" and if you take it in the context of his entire speech (robots will steal your job, and thats okay) it is pretty obvious where he is taking you ... there is a plan (and has been since the 1500's when the rosicrucian manifestos were released, if not arguably for almost 4000 years since the philosopher-king reign of Akhenaten\Amenhotep IV whom the great writers of Masonry adorn with praise) ... there is a plan afoot to have the world "turn a corner" from this paradigm to another ... from one of competition and resource exploitation, and of ever increasing "atheism" and god-hate, to one of universal brotherly love, cooperation, reverence for nature AND for god (and for the god WITHIN us all ... see the most poignant passages of John ... this is a forward looking vision though, and not a backward looking one ... if you want a very cursory and dated example of this, go read the published portion of Bacon's The New Atlantis, where you can understand that the pushers of this "New World Order" philosophy celebrate both religion (the true knowledge of god) AND SCIENCE ... and that they wish for the integration of these two opposites (popularly perceived to be so, anyhow) to be the ruling wisdom of the "new age".
I have come to realize that we as a global society must start coming to accept the majority of these claims and beliefs, to submit our modifications to those parts which we find "not truth" and to get one with getting on,to join the cause for a global family, and not to fight in fear and ignorance against it ... but to accept that those brilliant minds that came before us already fleshed out the root of a plan (and indeed the greatest among us have repeatedly insisted that this plan is divine in origin) and that we must not try to strike down and reinvent the wheel, but join the cause, and as the bible says, play our part as stones in building the temple of the lord on this earth.
wow that was probably 10x too heady for this board.
sorry.
off to work.
ps -- regarding 9/11 that is an entirely different subject, but i can tell you there is a world of difference between those that know and sense the plan and believe explicitly in "right methods to right intentions" (white magicians) and those that believe in using "wrong methods towards right intentions" (or just outright wrong methods and wrong intentions) ... and with respect to the numbers of the flights (11-north tower, 77 pentagon, 175-south tower and 93-shanksville - possibly headed to capitol) you should look here (this is from one of his books), here (symbol on left), here (Liber 175 - just read the first sentence, should be enough to get you there), and here (symbol top left)
If I opened it now would you not understand?