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Student Suspended After Disarmin Teen Who Had Gun On Florida

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School Bus.

Here we again only in the sunshine state Florida.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/0 ... 11675.html
A Florida high school student was suspended after he disarmed another student who allegedly threatened to shoot someone while on a school bus.

An unnamed 16-year-old student from Cypress Lake High School in Fort Myers, Fla., was suspended for three days after he disarmed a 15-year-old peer who allegedly threatened to shoot another student with a loaded revolver during a Feb. 26 fight on a school bus, according WFTX.

"It's dumb," the suspended student told the station. "How they going to suspend me for doing the right thing?"

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.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,084
    Unbelievable.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.
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  • STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    Believable !

    For those that have lived in Florida. Sorry, but most of you are coconuts. (my family included)
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  • whgarrettwhgarrett Posts: 574
    It seems a little ridiculous, but according to the article he refused to cooperate with police. His mother said he wasn't raised a "snitch". To me that deserves a suspension.
  • STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    whgarrett wrote:
    It seems a little ridiculous, but according to the article he refused to cooperate with police. His mother said he wasn't raised a "snitch". To me that deserves a suspension.


    coconuts
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    The kid absolutely did the right thing. It's important to note though (from the article):

    Officials later revealed the student was suspended because he didn't cooperate with the investigation.

    So, he wasn't suspended for what he did, it was for what happened after the fact.
  • STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    coconuts.

    Half the state is Red. Half the state is Blue.

    And when I lived there I had to SWING? my vote, but it didn't matter ? Illegal Immigrants voted more than I did.

    The entire state is on drugs...

    Can florida not count? :lol::lol:
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  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    hedonist wrote:
    The kid absolutely did the right thing. It's important to note though (from the article):

    Officials later revealed the student was suspended because he didn't cooperate with the investigation.

    So, he wasn't suspended for what he did, it was for what happened after the fact.

    Yeah, that seems to be a detail either missing from most reports or buried deep down in them. Supposedly this kid (and the other two who also helped and were suspended as well) not only didn't cooperate, they also lied to the police.

    Not being a "snitch" is all well and good, but there's a limit. And I think matters of life and death are past that limit. It's not like they didn't want to snitch out some kid who had a bag of weed or something, they didn't want to be forthcoming with the police concerning a student who was waving a gun around on a school bus. The school used the technicality of them being in an altercation on the bus as grounds for suspension, possibly so as to not go on their record as sounding like something criminal.

    Not "snitching" on a student who brings a gun to school, especially in this day and age, is not the kind of behavior I think anybody wants to applaud.

    For all the talk of not snitching, they seem to be willing to tell any member of the press who will listen the whole story. If they'd been as talkative with the police, instead of sticking to a misguided code of honor, they would be treated as heroes instead of being suspended.
    "See a broad to get dat booty yak 'em, leg 'er down, a smack 'em yak 'em!"
  • STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    SatansFuton wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    The kid absolutely did the right thing. It's important to note though (from the article):

    Officials later revealed the student was suspended because he didn't cooperate with the investigation.

    So, he wasn't suspended for what he did, it was for what happened after the fact.

    Yeah, that seems to be a detail either missing from most reports or buried deep down in them. Supposedly this kid (and the other two who also helped and were suspended as well) not only didn't cooperate, they also lied to the police.

    Not being a "snitch" is all well and good, but there's a limit. And I think matters of life and death are past that limit. It's not like they didn't want to snitch out some kid who had a bag of weed or something, they didn't want to be forthcoming with the police concerning a student who was waving a gun around on a school bus. The school used the technicality of them being in an altercation on the bus as grounds for suspension, possibly so as to not go on their record as sounding like something criminal.

    Not "snitching" on a student who brings a gun to school, especially in this day and age, is not the kind of behavior I think anybody wants to applaud.

    For all the talk of not snitching, they seem to be willing to tell any member of the press who will listen the whole story. If they'd been as talkative with the police, instead of sticking to a misguided code of honor, they would be treated as heroes instead of being suspended.

    Are you kidding me? If I squealed on every kid that had a weapon!!! There are some things that make you feel safe, and there are some things you never speak about. I hate a certain person and he would be in prison for the crap he has done.


    Snitches get STITCHES ... This is what I am taught.

    I have never had stitches. I feel bad for this kid... He did the right thing, even though there were social consequence events
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  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    STAYSEA wrote:
    Are you kidding me? If I squealed on every kid that had a weapon!!! There are some things that make you feel safe, and there are some things you never speak about. I hate a certain person and he would be in prison for the crap he has done.


    Snitches get STITCHES ... This is what I am taught.

    I have never had stitches. I feel bad for this kid... He did the right thing, even though there were social consequence events

    Are you kidding ME? You're cool with kids carrying weapons? And furthermore, carrying them to school? As this story points out, this kid pulled his weapon over some argument at football practice. Kids aren't smart or mature enough to have that kind of responsibility. Many adults aren't either, but kids sure as hell aren't.

    If your child (I don't know if you have one, if not, you're theoretical child) got shot and killed at school by some kid, and it turned out other kids knew that kid was carrying, would you accept "snitches get stitches" as a reasonable explanation for your child being dead?

    As I said, snitching is one thing, being responsible with the lives of others is another. I'm not talking about going and ratting out every kid for every little thing (I'd probably spent a good portion of my life in prison as well), I'm just talking about avoiding kids getting shot and killed. This kid didn't use his weapon to stay safe, he tried to use it to settle a BS argument.
    "See a broad to get dat booty yak 'em, leg 'er down, a smack 'em yak 'em!"
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    SatansFuton wrote:
    Yeah, that seems to be a detail either missing from most reports or buried deep down in them. Supposedly this kid (and the other two who also helped and were suspended as well) not only didn't cooperate, they also lied to the police.

    Not being a "snitch" is all well and good, but there's a limit. And I think matters of life and death are past that limit. It's not like they didn't want to snitch out some kid who had a bag of weed or something, they didn't want to be forthcoming with the police concerning a student who was waving a gun around on a school bus. The school used the technicality of them being in an altercation on the bus as grounds for suspension, possibly so as to not go on their record as sounding like something criminal.

    Not "snitching" on a student who brings a gun to school, especially in this day and age, is not the kind of behavior I think anybody wants to applaud.

    For all the talk of not snitching, they seem to be willing to tell any member of the press who will listen the whole story. If they'd been as talkative with the police, instead of sticking to a misguided code of honor, they would be treated as heroes instead of being suspended.
    Very well-said, SF.

    Gotta say his mother's attitude irked me some too.
  • dancepartnerdancepartner Posts: 324
    Ditto. Well said SF. and by the way, I still always enjoy seeing the pic you use even thought I don't know what the hell it is, it just seems to fit well with many of the threads here!
    And then there's Staysea's pic....
  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    dancepartner wrote:
    I still always enjoy seeing the pic you use even thought I don't know what the hell it is, it just seems to fit well with many of the threads here!

    It was when PJ were musical guest on SNL several years back and made a cameo in a sketch that was a parody of an old Twilight Zone episode.

    Here's the sketch...

    http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/nightmare-at-20000-feet/n12760/
    "See a broad to get dat booty yak 'em, leg 'er down, a smack 'em yak 'em!"
  • STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    SatansFuton wrote:
    STAYSEA wrote:
    Are you kidding me? If I squealed on every kid that had a weapon!!! There are some things that make you feel safe, and there are some things you never speak about. I hate a certain person and he would be in prison for the crap he has done.


    Snitches get STITCHES ... This is what I am taught.

    I have never had stitches. I feel bad for this kid... He did the right thing, even though there were social consequence events

    Are you kidding ME? You're cool with kids carrying weapons? And furthermore, carrying them to school? As this story points out, this kid pulled his weapon over some argument at football practice. Kids aren't smart or mature enough to have that kind of responsibility. Many adults aren't either, but kids sure as hell aren't.

    If your child (I don't know if you have one, if not, you're theoretical child) got shot and killed at school by some kid, and it turned out other kids knew that kid was carrying, would you accept "snitches get stitches" as a reasonable explanation for your child being dead?

    As I said, snitching is one thing, being responsible with the lives of others is another. I'm not talking about going and ratting out every kid for every little thing (I'd probably spent a good portion of my life in prison as well), I'm just talking about avoiding kids getting shot and killed. This kid didn't use his weapon to stay safe, he tried to use it to settle a BS argument.

    You have not been around red necks! This is a normal thing
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  • dancepartnerdancepartner Posts: 324
    I may have to watch it when I get home. Hotel servers suck when it comes to downloading video. Thanks though, it looks fun!
  • STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    SatansFuton wrote:
    dancepartner wrote:
    I still always enjoy seeing the pic you use even thought I don't know what the hell it is, it just seems to fit well with many of the threads here!

    It was when PJ were musical guest on SNL several years back and made a cameo in a sketch that was a parody of an old Twilight Zone episode.

    Here's the sketch...

    http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/nightmare-at-20000-feet/n12760/

    I love this sketch! They aired it last week!

    "Some Thing is on the wing??!!!"
    "I promise it's there ... on the wing.. look !" ;)
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  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    STAYSEA wrote:
    You have not been around red necks! This is a normal thing

    I live in Texas. You're just being ridiculous.
    "See a broad to get dat booty yak 'em, leg 'er down, a smack 'em yak 'em!"
  • STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    SatansFuton wrote:
    STAYSEA wrote:
    Are you kidding me? If I squealed on every kid that had a weapon!!! There are some things that make you feel safe, and there are some things you never speak about. I hate a certain person and he would be in prison for the crap he has done.


    Snitches get STITCHES ... This is what I am taught.

    I have never had stitches. I feel bad for this kid... He did the right thing, even though there were social consequence events

    Are you kidding ME? You're cool with kids carrying weapons? And furthermore, carrying them to school? As this story points out, this kid pulled his weapon over some argument at football practice. Kids aren't smart or mature enough to have that kind of responsibility. Many adults aren't either, but kids sure as hell aren't.

    If your child (I don't know if you have one, if not, you're theoretical child) got shot and killed at school by some kid, and it turned out other kids knew that kid was carrying, would you accept "snitches get stitches" as a reasonable explanation for your child being dead?

    As I said, snitching is one thing, being responsible with the lives of others is another. I'm not talking about going and ratting out every kid for every little thing (I'd probably spent a good portion of my life in prison as well), I'm just talking about avoiding kids getting shot and killed. This kid didn't use his weapon to stay safe, he tried to use it to settle a BS argument.

    I don't have children.. I have been "In Charge " of violent youths, and I've seen some weapons. This poor kid is going to get an ass whipping. That is not fair. Most of the time, telling the truth is worse then trying to come up with a lie :?
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  • dancepartnerdancepartner Posts: 324
    (pisses me off when I post something & then can't find it. No - I'm not a redneck... ;) )
    So I wrote something about depending on what part of the country a person hails from, so comes their variation of what a redneck means. Now your idea Staysea, is one I'm not familiar with!
    In the west, a redneck is one who lives a creed similar to the same top 20 countdown theme tunes -- country that is!
  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    STAYSEA wrote:
    I have been "In Charge " of violent youths, and I've seen some weapons.

    How exactly does one go about being "in charge" of violent youths with weapons?
    "See a broad to get dat booty yak 'em, leg 'er down, a smack 'em yak 'em!"
  • STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    dancepartner wrote:
    (pisses me off when I post something & then can't find it. No - I'm not a redneck... ;) )
    So I wrote something about depending on what part of the country a person hails from, so comes their variation of what a redneck means. Now your idea Staysea, is one I'm not familiar with!
    In the west, a redneck is one who lives a creed similar to the same top 20 countdown theme tunes -- country that is!


    I accept and embrace those that call me a red neck...

    They are misguided and I don't have the time. A majority of them say they are not prejudice.

    I'm not a red neck but it's all kewl. Maybe next week I can be a red neck...

    I need to find some crawfish?
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  • STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    SatansFuton wrote:
    STAYSEA wrote:
    I have been "In Charge " of violent youths, and I've seen some weapons.

    How exactly does one go about being "in charge" of violent youths with weapons?



    Um?!! really! I tell the P.O. officer . And I make them cry because they go back to juvie

    I know a woman going into this field and she has so much strength
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  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    STAYSEA wrote:
    SatansFuton wrote:
    STAYSEA wrote:
    I have been "In Charge " of violent youths, and I've seen some weapons.

    How exactly does one go about being "in charge" of violent youths with weapons?



    Um?!! really! I tell the P.O. officer . And I make them cry because they go back to juvie

    I know a woman going into this field and she has so much strength

    Isn't that "snitching"?
    "See a broad to get dat booty yak 'em, leg 'er down, a smack 'em yak 'em!"
  • STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    If a kid pulls a knife on me for no reason?

    This is not snitching ....

    He's a dumbass and needs more corrective therapy

    I was patient ... While he had cocaine in in pocket..
    Later on... down the free way he put my shift knob into park?!!!!

    I had to tell.. he almost killed my transmission.

    That is a direct sign of an evil person... for me?
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  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    STAYSEA wrote:
    If a kid pulls a knife on me for no reason?

    This is not snitching ....

    Kind of like a kid pulling a gun on a school bus?
    "See a broad to get dat booty yak 'em, leg 'er down, a smack 'em yak 'em!"
  • STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    Thank You, Mindy
    For that job.... I do not have the strength

    So
    sorry :cry:
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Anyone else read about the kid that was suspended because his pop tart was in the shape of a gun? That's going overboard.
  • STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    unsung wrote:
    Anyone else read about the kid that was suspended because his pop tart was in the shape of a gun? That's going overboard.


    Thank you !!!!!!
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/05/bo ... -dad-says/
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,197
    Snitching is one thing but the information needed to be given to police can be given discreetly. Give the police the information and let them know I don't want to be named in the answering of your questions.

    Here in Florida it seems things are done differently and YES the whole state is on drugs of some kind. :mrgreen:

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • riotgrlriotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    unsung wrote:
    Anyone else read about the kid that was suspended because his pop tart was in the shape of a gun? That's going overboard.

    I agree that it is going overboard BUT when people don't overreact to something that could be perceived as a threat then that's when people start pointing fingers about having warning signs about threats, etc and "someone" not doing anything about it. Perhaps if people had some damn common sense and raised kids that had some then you wouldn't have these extreme overreactions in order to cover your ass.
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

    I AM MINE
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