We can cite examples all day long of people who were born with nothing, or came to america with nothing, and made it big in America. Probably more so than any other country. 86% of millionaires in America are self-made... So what now???
Yes, I suppose you can. And you'll be changing the subject. We're not talking about the few people who've managed to create a product or service that made them that rich. It's not just the simple act of "working hard' that made me my money.
I made my money because I come with a pretty specific skill set that few people have or COULD have and managed to figure out how to channel those into doing something that could generate me a solid income. Yes, I worked hard... but the reason my skills were able to turn into my money was that not everyone can do what I do.
We can cite examples all day long of people who were born with nothing, or came to america with nothing, and made it big in America. Probably more so than any other country. 86% of millionaires in America are self-made... So what now???
Yes, I suppose you can. And you'll be changing the subject. We're not talking about the few people who've managed to create a product or service that made them that rich. It's not just the simple act of "working hard' that made me my money.
I made my money because I come with a pretty specific skill set that few people have or COULD have and managed to figure out how to channel those into doing something that could generate me a solid income. Yes, I worked hard... but the reason my skills were able to turn into my money was that not everyone can do what I do.
And.. why aren't you a billionaire?
LOL... Its not changing the subject, its showing you that it can be done, all it takes is some personal responsibility and hard work. That gap wouldn't be so wide if poor people didn't continue to produce more and more children, in which they are awarded monetarily by the Gov. for each child. Its no suprise that poor children come from poor parents.
Here a quick funny relative story from my wifes work this week. As you know she works in a inner city school. A school that has to reward (giving out gift cards/grocery/gas cards) to entice parents to come to the parent teacher conferences. Still with all those incentives, 4 parents showed up at my wifes last parent/teacher conference. Remind you that this school recently placed 2nd last in the state.
But guess what happend this week. The high school basketball team made it to the semi finals (wednesday) and now the finals (today) for the state championship. Both days (wed/Fri) were called off for school for these basketball games which are played at a college 1.5 hours from the middleschool/high school.
And guess what, my wifes class had a 100% attendance 1.5 hours away to watch a baskeball game(s) in both parents and students.
But yeah, keep getting upset with the people who want to learn and better themselves... :roll:
Pro tip: Concern yourself with the actions of the people at the lower end of the income inequality gap. If you actually look at THAT problem/actions it will explain to you why they are there.
Why do you keep asking this? I am not the one complain about this like you are.
I am not a billionaire because I value time more than money. I would rather spend time with my family and doing activities/hobbies that I enjoy.
LOL... Its not changing the subject, its showing you that it can be done, all it takes is some personal responsibility and hard work. That gap wouldn't be so wide if poor people didn't continue to produce more and more children, in which they are awarded monetarily by the Gov. for each child. Its no suprise that poor children come from poor parents.
Here a quick funny relative story from my wifes work this week. As you know she works in a inner city school. A school that has to reward (giving out gift cards/grocery/gas cards) to entice parents to come to the parent teacher conferences. Still with all those incentives, 4 parents showed up at my wifes last parent/teacher conference. Remind you that this school recently placed 2nd last in the state.
But guess what happend this week. The high school basketball team made it to the semi finals (wednesday) and now the finals (today) for the state championship. Both days (wed/Fri) were called off for school for these basketball games which are played at a college 1.5 hours from the middleschool/high school.
And guess what, my wifes class had a 100% attendance 1.5 hours away to watch a baskeball game(s) in both parents and students.
But yeah, keep getting upset with the people who want to learn and better themselves... :roll:
Pro tip: Concern yourself with the actions of the people at the lower end of the income inequality gap. If you actually look at THAT problem/actions it will explain to you why they are there.
I was going to respond to your statements about people in poverty, but then I remembered going around with you before about it. Some of the things you said about it were mostly based on stereotypes and over generalizations, with extreme notions on how poor parents should be dealt with.
If I also remember right, you're living in Indiana, so the basketball thing makes total sense to me. What's your wife think about Mitch Daniel gutting schools?
LOL... Its not changing the subject, its showing you that it can be done, all it takes is some personal responsibility and hard work. That gap wouldn't be so wide if poor people didn't continue to produce more and more children, in which they are awarded monetarily by the Gov. for each child. Its no suprise that poor children come from poor parents.
Here a quick funny relative story from my wifes work this week. As you know she works in a inner city school. A school that has to reward (giving out gift cards/grocery/gas cards) to entice parents to come to the parent teacher conferences. Still with all those incentives, 4 parents showed up at my wifes last parent/teacher conference. Remind you that this school recently placed 2nd last in the state.
But guess what happend this week. The high school basketball team made it to the semi finals (wednesday) and now the finals (today) for the state championship. Both days (wed/Fri) were called off for school for these basketball games which are played at a college 1.5 hours from the middleschool/high school.
And guess what, my wifes class had a 100% attendance 1.5 hours away to watch a baskeball game(s) in both parents and students.
But yeah, keep getting upset with the people who want to learn and better themselves... :roll:
Pro tip: Concern yourself with the actions of the people at the lower end of the income inequality gap. If you actually look at THAT problem/actions it will explain to you why they are there.
I was going to respond to your statements about people in poverty, but then I remembered going around with you before about it. Some of the things you said about it were mostly based on stereotypes and over generalizations, with extreme notions on how poor parents should be dealt with.
If I also remember right, you're living in Indiana, so the basketball thing makes total sense to me. What's your wife think about Mitch Daniel gutting schools?
Here a quick funny relative story from my wifes work this week. As you know she works in a inner city school. A school that has to reward (giving out gift cards/grocery/gas cards) to entice parents to come to the parent teacher conferences. Still with all those incentives, 4 parents showed up at my wifes last parent/teacher conference. Remind you that this school recently placed 2nd last in the state.
But guess what happend this week. The high school basketball team made it to the semi finals (wednesday) and now the finals (today) for the state championship. Both days (wed/Fri) were called off for school for these basketball games which are played at a college 1.5 hours from the middleschool/high school.
And guess what, my wifes class had a 100% attendance 1.5 hours away to watch a baskeball game(s) in both parents and students.
But yeah, keep getting upset with the people who want to learn and better themselves... :roll:
Pro tip: Concern yourself with the actions of the people at the lower end of the income inequality gap. If you actually look at THAT problem/actions it will explain to you why they are there.
You're going to complain about parent attendance, when a school doing that poorly feels the need to close down for two days due to sports? Where is that school's priorities? Ah, we know, the basketball team... :roll:
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Here a quick funny relative story from my wifes work this week. As you know she works in a inner city school. A school that has to reward (giving out gift cards/grocery/gas cards) to entice parents to come to the parent teacher conferences. Still with all those incentives, 4 parents showed up at my wifes last parent/teacher conference. Remind you that this school recently placed 2nd last in the state.
But guess what happend this week. The high school basketball team made it to the semi finals (wednesday) and now the finals (today) for the state championship. Both days (wed/Fri) were called off for school for these basketball games which are played at a college 1.5 hours from the middleschool/high school.
And guess what, my wifes class had a 100% attendance 1.5 hours away to watch a baskeball game(s) in both parents and students.
But yeah, keep getting upset with the people who want to learn and better themselves... :roll:
Pro tip: Concern yourself with the actions of the people at the lower end of the income inequality gap. If you actually look at THAT problem/actions it will explain to you why they are there.
You're going to complain about parent attendance, when a school doing that poorly feels the need to close down for two days due to sports? Where is that school's priorities? Ah, we know, the basketball team... :roll:
My feelings about that, Jeanwah: I don't have a problem with sports per se- in fact I love baseball- but why is it that sports are always one of the last things to go in our schools but creative arts are often cut first? Probably because creative arts don't lend themselves as well to "winning" or competition which is what the 7% with 93% of the money are more concerned with.
That takes us back to the discussion on tribalism and the fact that tribal societies with little competitiveness are populated with much happier people overall than societies based on competition that reward A type personalities.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.
Here a quick funny relative story from my wifes work this week. As you know she works in a inner city school. A school that has to reward (giving out gift cards/grocery/gas cards) to entice parents to come to the parent teacher conferences. Still with all those incentives, 4 parents showed up at my wifes last parent/teacher conference. Remind you that this school recently placed 2nd last in the state.
But guess what happend this week. The high school basketball team made it to the semi finals (wednesday) and now the finals (today) for the state championship. Both days (wed/Fri) were called off for school for these basketball games which are played at a college 1.5 hours from the middleschool/high school.
And guess what, my wifes class had a 100% attendance 1.5 hours away to watch a baskeball game(s) in both parents and students.
But yeah, keep getting upset with the people who want to learn and better themselves... :roll:
Pro tip: Concern yourself with the actions of the people at the lower end of the income inequality gap. If you actually look at THAT problem/actions it will explain to you why they are there.
You're going to complain about parent attendance, when a school doing that poorly feels the need to close down for two days due to sports? Where is that school's priorities? Ah, we know, the basketball team... :roll:
My feelings about that, Jeanwah: I don't have a problem with sports per se- in fact I love baseball- but why is it that sports are always one of the last things to go in our schools but creative arts are often cut first? Probably because creative arts don't lend themselves as well to "winning" or competition which is what the 7% with 93% of the money are more concerned with.
That takes us back to the discussion on tribalism and the fact that tribal societies with little competitiveness are populated with much happier people overall than societies based on competition that reward A type personalities.
I feel the same as you do Brian. Due to extreme budget cuts in education in my state, my daughter's school district's cut art and music. And that was after talk about JV sports being cut, to which all Hell broke loose by many parents. (JV was saved only due to it being fully funded by booster club support and volunteers.) Another program that got cut? Special Ed, which is ironic seeing that the school population of those needing special Ed has doubled in the last ten years. But sports? It will never get cut. In some parents' eyes (and some schools), it is more important than academics.
And we'll said re: tribal societies. It makes me think of Ishmael.
I am not a billionaire because I value time more than money. I would rather spend time with my family and doing activities/hobbies that I enjoy.
Yeah. I'm sure.
Well maybe if you weren't quite so lazy you'd at least be a millionaire. Because anyone who isn't one clearly doesn't work very hard at all.
I know what you mean. I'm so lazy, my 60-72 hours of work every week nets me about $65000 a year. If only I wasnt so lazy, I might reach $100,000 one day.
I am not the one complain about this like you are.
OK, and see... I'm not "complaining."
I'm pointing out that the extremely rich have stacked the deck and played the system and bought the politicians and kept it so the Walton family, worth more than 100 Billion between the five them, can get away with paying their employees so poorly that you have to subsidize their income with food stamps with your taxes. Those are people who work hard... working honestly and trying to make a living.
Don't say they should work harder and get better jobs... the system doesn't work like that and you know it. There has to be a small number of people on the top of the pyramid but that does NOT mean that you get to gleefully shit on those below you.
I know what you mean. I'm so lazy, my 60-72 hours of work every week nets me about $65000 a year. If only I wasnt so lazy, I might reach $100,000 one day.
And you're one of the luckier ones. The average household income is about$50,000.
In 2006, 1.93% of all households had annual incomes exceeding $250,000. 12.3% fell below the federal poverty threshold and the bottom 20% earned less than $19,178. The aggregate income distribution is highly concentrated towards the top, with the top 6.37% earning roughly one third of all income.
I know what you mean. I'm so lazy, my 60-72 hours of work every week nets me about $65000 a year. If only I wasnt so lazy, I might reach $100,000 one day.
And you're one of the luckier ones. The average household income is about$50,000.
In 2006, 1.93% of all households had annual incomes exceeding $250,000. 12.3% fell below the federal poverty threshold and the bottom 20% earned less than $19,178. The aggregate income distribution is highly concentrated towards the top, with the top 6.37% earning roughly one third of all income.
I am lucky. 1) to have a job, 2) to have great benefits, and 3) to be able to work anywhere between 4-8 days of overtime a month. Without it, my yearly salary drops to around $44,000.
I am lucky. 1) to have a job, 2) to have great benefits, and 3) to be able to work anywhere between 4-8 days of overtime a month. Without it, my yearly salary drops to around $44,000.
I mean... I don't really work "overtime" because my income comes from working on a bunch of different projects all at once. I direct my movies and do the odd freelance gig like directing commercials and right now I'm editing a zombie TV series. I have my blog network and my tube site and I'm part owner of a small studio and do all sorts of other odd jobs that add up to my total income but aside from my officially part-time position with the main studio I direct for, I don't really have a "job." I have multiple sources of income.
But yeah... I'm working an average of about 14 hours a day pretty much 6 days a week and the 7th probably about 6-7. I don't get much time off because I don't have the time to take. But I knew what I was signing up for and yay for me.
But most people wouldn't have the options I do. And that doesn't make me any better than anyone else.
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Yes, I suppose you can. And you'll be changing the subject. We're not talking about the few people who've managed to create a product or service that made them that rich. It's not just the simple act of "working hard' that made me my money.
I made my money because I come with a pretty specific skill set that few people have or COULD have and managed to figure out how to channel those into doing something that could generate me a solid income. Yes, I worked hard... but the reason my skills were able to turn into my money was that not everyone can do what I do.
And.. why aren't you a billionaire?
Here a quick funny relative story from my wifes work this week. As you know she works in a inner city school. A school that has to reward (giving out gift cards/grocery/gas cards) to entice parents to come to the parent teacher conferences. Still with all those incentives, 4 parents showed up at my wifes last parent/teacher conference. Remind you that this school recently placed 2nd last in the state.
But guess what happend this week. The high school basketball team made it to the semi finals (wednesday) and now the finals (today) for the state championship. Both days (wed/Fri) were called off for school for these basketball games which are played at a college 1.5 hours from the middleschool/high school.
And guess what, my wifes class had a 100% attendance 1.5 hours away to watch a baskeball game(s) in both parents and students.
But yeah, keep getting upset with the people who want to learn and better themselves... :roll:
Pro tip: Concern yourself with the actions of the people at the lower end of the income inequality gap. If you actually look at THAT problem/actions it will explain to you why they are there.
I am not a billionaire because I value time more than money. I would rather spend time with my family and doing activities/hobbies that I enjoy.
I was going to respond to your statements about people in poverty, but then I remembered going around with you before about it. Some of the things you said about it were mostly based on stereotypes and over generalizations, with extreme notions on how poor parents should be dealt with.
If I also remember right, you're living in Indiana, so the basketball thing makes total sense to me. What's your wife think about Mitch Daniel gutting schools?
You're going to complain about parent attendance, when a school doing that poorly feels the need to close down for two days due to sports? Where is that school's priorities? Ah, we know, the basketball team... :roll:
My feelings about that, Jeanwah: I don't have a problem with sports per se- in fact I love baseball- but why is it that sports are always one of the last things to go in our schools but creative arts are often cut first? Probably because creative arts don't lend themselves as well to "winning" or competition which is what the 7% with 93% of the money are more concerned with.
That takes us back to the discussion on tribalism and the fact that tribal societies with little competitiveness are populated with much happier people overall than societies based on competition that reward A type personalities.
I feel the same as you do Brian. Due to extreme budget cuts in education in my state, my daughter's school district's cut art and music. And that was after talk about JV sports being cut, to which all Hell broke loose by many parents. (JV was saved only due to it being fully funded by booster club support and volunteers.) Another program that got cut? Special Ed, which is ironic seeing that the school population of those needing special Ed has doubled in the last ten years. But sports? It will never get cut. In some parents' eyes (and some schools), it is more important than academics.
And we'll said re: tribal societies. It makes me think of Ishmael.
Yeah. I'm sure.
Well maybe if you weren't quite so lazy you'd at least be a millionaire. Because anyone who isn't one clearly doesn't work very hard at all.
I know what you mean. I'm so lazy, my 60-72 hours of work every week nets me about $65000 a year. If only I wasnt so lazy, I might reach $100,000 one day.
OK, and see... I'm not "complaining."
I'm pointing out that the extremely rich have stacked the deck and played the system and bought the politicians and kept it so the Walton family, worth more than 100 Billion between the five them, can get away with paying their employees so poorly that you have to subsidize their income with food stamps with your taxes. Those are people who work hard... working honestly and trying to make a living.
Don't say they should work harder and get better jobs... the system doesn't work like that and you know it. There has to be a small number of people on the top of the pyramid but that does NOT mean that you get to gleefully shit on those below you.
And you're one of the luckier ones. The average household income is about$50,000.
In 2006, 1.93% of all households had annual incomes exceeding $250,000. 12.3% fell below the federal poverty threshold and the bottom 20% earned less than $19,178. The aggregate income distribution is highly concentrated towards the top, with the top 6.37% earning roughly one third of all income.
I am lucky. 1) to have a job, 2) to have great benefits, and 3) to be able to work anywhere between 4-8 days of overtime a month. Without it, my yearly salary drops to around $44,000.
I mean... I don't really work "overtime" because my income comes from working on a bunch of different projects all at once. I direct my movies and do the odd freelance gig like directing commercials and right now I'm editing a zombie TV series. I have my blog network and my tube site and I'm part owner of a small studio and do all sorts of other odd jobs that add up to my total income but aside from my officially part-time position with the main studio I direct for, I don't really have a "job." I have multiple sources of income.
But yeah... I'm working an average of about 14 hours a day pretty much 6 days a week and the 7th probably about 6-7. I don't get much time off because I don't have the time to take. But I knew what I was signing up for and yay for me.
But most people wouldn't have the options I do. And that doesn't make me any better than anyone else.
I'm always accepting applications but those have to come with a lot of self nude pics.