93% of Americans have 7% of the Money

Blockhead

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

whgarrett wrote:

It doesn't bother me all that much. By now I figured out that money doesn't mean a damn thing. Happiness comes from within. Why are you guys so unhappy?

Yeah. That's what those people who can't afford to feed themselves say every day.

And the parents whose kids are disabled or have special needs they can't afford to provide. They're always saying they're so fucking "happy."


I'm sick and tired of the Billionaire apologists.

Whats stopping them from being part of the 7%? (U.S. speaking)

know1

Blockhead wrote:

know1 wrote:

I'd be willing to bet that I'm not in that top 7%.

But...I'd be willing to bet that most of us in here are in the top 3-4% richest in the world.

If you're going to imply something with those numbers, it's time to think globally and not nationally. There is a much worse imbalance in wealth distribution across globe than there is across our nation.

Typical AMT thought process: Hate people with money, tie it to a percentage and forget to apply the same percentage to your self globally...
Here are some more interesting facts. Half of the world’s richest one percent live right here in the US. While the average American income is a part of the richest one percent in the world as well….wait what? You mean to tell me that mostly half of the “rich” are Americans? In fact, if you’re above the poverty line in the US, you’re a part of the richest 10 percent of the people in the entire world. It's funny seeing people getting so upset by this video, yet posting from the comfort of their air-conditioned/heated homes, on their labtops, smartphones, or shiny new tablets...LOL
I don't think people here truly know what poor or suffering is...

Yep. This is what I was trying to say exactly. Thanks for backing it up with facts.

The richest Americans are demonized by people who are, themselves, among the very richest people in the world.

rollings

Where'd you get the title from ? The video says that 80% of the country owns 7% of the money.

Most startling to me was the fact that 1% of the country owns 40% of the money.......
The richest 1% of the country, the most richest people, own 40% of the nation's wealth!

What a bunch of hogs. seriously.

I'm not saying that I want their money, but there are alot of dirt poor people in the country and world who are poor because they're born into it.

Those born into riches usually stay in those riches.

it's an eye-opener. The rich get richer without doing a thing.
while the poor have the least opportunity, it's the truth.

Sure there are success stories about determination etc. paying off. But for the most part, those in poverty stay there struggling, while the rich live off their riches and live a life of luxury.

Its a parallelogram

Prince Of Dorkness

Blockhead wrote:

I don't think people here truly know what poor or suffering is...

OK... so I have never once said I was "poor" or "suffering."

I have said that I'm one of the dreaded top 2% whose taxes should go up to keep the system from which I profited going.

I think I have even, maybe once, talked about how I have two houses so I can bounce back and forth between Los Angeles and San Francisco where I live and work.

But if you're going to try to haul out the "there are starving children in China" deal, you should also not forget to mention that in most other countries, medical care isn't unavailable or out of reach and in most of those countries, the cost of living isn't as astronomical as it is here. Yes, there are 700 million people in India who are living in abject poverty with no running water, little food, no electricity and no schools. Please don't tell me that the people in the US are "rich" because they're not those people.

And don't try to tell us that we should ignore the totally lopsided wealth distribution in the world since even the poor people in the US have more than the nomadic tribes of the African Savannah.

Prince Of Dorkness

whgarrett wrote:

Mr. Dorkness,

I sometimes feel like you are angry at the entire world. I hope that you are a happier person than you portray on this board.

You and others probably hope I'm smarter than i come off.

Well I'm not really going to worry about the opinions of someone who clearly posts obnoxious and provocative stuff to start flame wars.

So you can feel whatever you please.

Prince Of Dorkness

Blockhead wrote:

Whats stopping them from being part of the 7%? (U.S. speaking)

Well we could start with a system that's intentionally set up to drain money from the lower wager earners and shower it upon the richest. Banks that legally deceive, cheat and manipulate their customers, corporations that have removed as many jobs as possible to third world countries so people have to accept lower pay and fewer protections.

But I don't think you actually think that's a serious question.

How come you aren't a billionaire?

pj1981

whgarrett wrote:

You and others probably hope I'm smarter than i come off.

I think you are mucho smart and the headgear very sexy

Go Beavers

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Blockhead wrote:

Whats stopping them from being part of the 7%? (U.S. speaking)

Well we could start with a system that's intentionally set up to drain money from the lower wager earners and shower it upon the richest. Banks that legally deceive, cheat and manipulate their customers, corporations that have removed as many jobs as possible to third world countries so people have to accept lower pay and fewer protections.

But I don't think you actually think that's a serious question.

How come you aren't a billionaire?

I think he is serious about the question. Many conservatives think that very high wealth is available to all Americans if they would just work hard enough. With that view, they can resolve the question of poverty by saying those people are lazy and irresponsible.

Blockhead

Go Beavers wrote:

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Blockhead wrote:

Whats stopping them from being part of the 7%? (U.S. speaking)

Well we could start with a system that's intentionally set up to drain money from the lower wager earners and shower it upon the richest. Banks that legally deceive, cheat and manipulate their customers, corporations that have removed as many jobs as possible to third world countries so people have to accept lower pay and fewer protections.

But I don't think you actually think that's a serious question.

How come you aren't a billionaire?

I think he is serious about the question. Many conservatives think that very high wealth is available to all Americans if they would just work hard enough. With that view, they can resolve the question of poverty by saying those people are lazy and irresponsible.

We can cite examples all day long of people who were born with nothing, or came to america with nothing, and made it big in America. Probably more so than any other country. 86% of millionaires in America are self-made... So what now???

Jason P

0.2% of it ....

Prince Of Dorkness

Blockhead wrote:

We can cite examples all day long of people who were born with nothing, or came to america with nothing, and made it big in America. Probably more so than any other country. 86% of millionaires in America are self-made... So what now???

Yes, I suppose you can. And you'll be changing the subject. We're not talking about the few people who've managed to create a product or service that made them that rich. It's not just the simple act of "working hard' that made me my money.

I made my money because I come with a pretty specific skill set that few people have or COULD have and managed to figure out how to channel those into doing something that could generate me a solid income. Yes, I worked hard... but the reason my skills were able to turn into my money was that not everyone can do what I do.

And.. why aren't you a billionaire?

Blockhead

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Blockhead wrote:

We can cite examples all day long of people who were born with nothing, or came to america with nothing, and made it big in America. Probably more so than any other country. 86% of millionaires in America are self-made... So what now???

Yes, I suppose you can. And you'll be changing the subject. We're not talking about the few people who've managed to create a product or service that made them that rich. It's not just the simple act of "working hard' that made me my money.

I made my money because I come with a pretty specific skill set that few people have or COULD have and managed to figure out how to channel those into doing something that could generate me a solid income. Yes, I worked hard... but the reason my skills were able to turn into my money was that not everyone can do what I do.

And.. why aren't you a billionaire?

LOL... Its not changing the subject, its showing you that it can be done, all it takes is some personal responsibility and hard work. That gap wouldn't be so wide if poor people didn't continue to produce more and more children, in which they are awarded monetarily by the Gov. for each child. Its no suprise that poor children come from poor parents.
Here a quick funny relative story from my wifes work this week. As you know she works in a inner city school. A school that has to reward (giving out gift cards/grocery/gas cards) to entice parents to come to the parent teacher conferences. Still with all those incentives, 4 parents showed up at my wifes last parent/teacher conference. Remind you that this school recently placed 2nd last in the state.
But guess what happend this week. The high school basketball team made it to the semi finals (wednesday) and now the finals (today) for the state championship. Both days (wed/Fri) were called off for school for these basketball games which are played at a college 1.5 hours from the middleschool/high school.
And guess what, my wifes class had a 100% attendance 1.5 hours away to watch a baskeball game(s) in both parents and students.
But yeah, keep getting upset with the people who want to learn and better themselves... :roll:
Pro tip: Concern yourself with the actions of the people at the lower end of the income inequality gap. If you actually look at THAT problem/actions it will explain to you why they are there.

Blockhead

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

And.. why aren't you a billionaire?

Why do you keep asking this? I am not the one complain about this like you are.
I am not a billionaire because I value time more than money. I would rather spend time with my family and doing activities/hobbies that I enjoy.

Go Beavers

Blockhead wrote:

LOL... Its not changing the subject, its showing you that it can be done, all it takes is some personal responsibility and hard work. That gap wouldn't be so wide if poor people didn't continue to produce more and more children, in which they are awarded monetarily by the Gov. for each child. Its no suprise that poor children come from poor parents.
Here a quick funny relative story from my wifes work this week. As you know she works in a inner city school. A school that has to reward (giving out gift cards/grocery/gas cards) to entice parents to come to the parent teacher conferences. Still with all those incentives, 4 parents showed up at my wifes last parent/teacher conference. Remind you that this school recently placed 2nd last in the state.
But guess what happend this week. The high school basketball team made it to the semi finals (wednesday) and now the finals (today) for the state championship. Both days (wed/Fri) were called off for school for these basketball games which are played at a college 1.5 hours from the middleschool/high school.
And guess what, my wifes class had a 100% attendance 1.5 hours away to watch a baskeball game(s) in both parents and students.
But yeah, keep getting upset with the people who want to learn and better themselves... :roll:
Pro tip: Concern yourself with the actions of the people at the lower end of the income inequality gap. If you actually look at THAT problem/actions it will explain to you why they are there.

I was going to respond to your statements about people in poverty, but then I remembered going around with you before about it. Some of the things you said about it were mostly based on stereotypes and over generalizations, with extreme notions on how poor parents should be dealt with.

If I also remember right, you're living in Indiana, so the basketball thing makes total sense to me. What's your wife think about Mitch Daniel gutting schools?

Blockhead

Go Beavers wrote:

Blockhead wrote:

LOL... Its not changing the subject, its showing you that it can be done, all it takes is some personal responsibility and hard work. That gap wouldn't be so wide if poor people didn't continue to produce more and more children, in which they are awarded monetarily by the Gov. for each child. Its no suprise that poor children come from poor parents.
Here a quick funny relative story from my wifes work this week. As you know she works in a inner city school. A school that has to reward (giving out gift cards/grocery/gas cards) to entice parents to come to the parent teacher conferences. Still with all those incentives, 4 parents showed up at my wifes last parent/teacher conference. Remind you that this school recently placed 2nd last in the state.
But guess what happend this week. The high school basketball team made it to the semi finals (wednesday) and now the finals (today) for the state championship. Both days (wed/Fri) were called off for school for these basketball games which are played at a college 1.5 hours from the middleschool/high school.
And guess what, my wifes class had a 100% attendance 1.5 hours away to watch a baskeball game(s) in both parents and students.
But yeah, keep getting upset with the people who want to learn and better themselves... :roll:
Pro tip: Concern yourself with the actions of the people at the lower end of the income inequality gap. If you actually look at THAT problem/actions it will explain to you why they are there.

I was going to respond to your statements about people in poverty, but then I remembered going around with you before about it. Some of the things you said about it were mostly based on stereotypes and over generalizations, with extreme notions on how poor parents should be dealt with.

If I also remember right, you're living in Indiana, so the basketball thing makes total sense to me. What's your wife think about Mitch Daniel gutting schools?

Not indiana,

Jeanwah

Blockhead wrote:

Here a quick funny relative story from my wifes work this week. As you know she works in a inner city school. A school that has to reward (giving out gift cards/grocery/gas cards) to entice parents to come to the parent teacher conferences. Still with all those incentives, 4 parents showed up at my wifes last parent/teacher conference. Remind you that this school recently placed 2nd last in the state.
But guess what happend this week. The high school basketball team made it to the semi finals (wednesday) and now the finals (today) for the state championship. Both days (wed/Fri) were called off for school for these basketball games which are played at a college 1.5 hours from the middleschool/high school.
And guess what, my wifes class had a 100% attendance 1.5 hours away to watch a baskeball game(s) in both parents and students.
But yeah, keep getting upset with the people who want to learn and better themselves... :roll:
Pro tip: Concern yourself with the actions of the people at the lower end of the income inequality gap. If you actually look at THAT problem/actions it will explain to you why they are there.

You're going to complain about parent attendance, when a school doing that poorly feels the need to close down for two days due to sports? Where is that school's priorities? Ah, we know, the basketball team... :roll:

brianlux

Jeanwah wrote:

Blockhead wrote:

Here a quick funny relative story from my wifes work this week. As you know she works in a inner city school. A school that has to reward (giving out gift cards/grocery/gas cards) to entice parents to come to the parent teacher conferences. Still with all those incentives, 4 parents showed up at my wifes last parent/teacher conference. Remind you that this school recently placed 2nd last in the state.
But guess what happend this week. The high school basketball team made it to the semi finals (wednesday) and now the finals (today) for the state championship. Both days (wed/Fri) were called off for school for these basketball games which are played at a college 1.5 hours from the middleschool/high school.
And guess what, my wifes class had a 100% attendance 1.5 hours away to watch a baskeball game(s) in both parents and students.
But yeah, keep getting upset with the people who want to learn and better themselves... :roll:
Pro tip: Concern yourself with the actions of the people at the lower end of the income inequality gap. If you actually look at THAT problem/actions it will explain to you why they are there.

You're going to complain about parent attendance, when a school doing that poorly feels the need to close down for two days due to sports? Where is that school's priorities? Ah, we know, the basketball team... :roll:

My feelings about that, Jeanwah: I don't have a problem with sports per se- in fact I love baseball- but why is it that sports are always one of the last things to go in our schools but creative arts are often cut first? Probably because creative arts don't lend themselves as well to "winning" or competition which is what the 7% with 93% of the money are more concerned with.

That takes us back to the discussion on tribalism and the fact that tribal societies with little competitiveness are populated with much happier people overall than societies based on competition that reward A type personalities.

Jeanwah

brianlux wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Blockhead wrote:

Here a quick funny relative story from my wifes work this week. As you know she works in a inner city school. A school that has to reward (giving out gift cards/grocery/gas cards) to entice parents to come to the parent teacher conferences. Still with all those incentives, 4 parents showed up at my wifes last parent/teacher conference. Remind you that this school recently placed 2nd last in the state.
But guess what happend this week. The high school basketball team made it to the semi finals (wednesday) and now the finals (today) for the state championship. Both days (wed/Fri) were called off for school for these basketball games which are played at a college 1.5 hours from the middleschool/high school.
And guess what, my wifes class had a 100% attendance 1.5 hours away to watch a baskeball game(s) in both parents and students.
But yeah, keep getting upset with the people who want to learn and better themselves... :roll:
Pro tip: Concern yourself with the actions of the people at the lower end of the income inequality gap. If you actually look at THAT problem/actions it will explain to you why they are there.

You're going to complain about parent attendance, when a school doing that poorly feels the need to close down for two days due to sports? Where is that school's priorities? Ah, we know, the basketball team... :roll:

My feelings about that, Jeanwah: I don't have a problem with sports per se- in fact I love baseball- but why is it that sports are always one of the last things to go in our schools but creative arts are often cut first? Probably because creative arts don't lend themselves as well to "winning" or competition which is what the 7% with 93% of the money are more concerned with.

That takes us back to the discussion on tribalism and the fact that tribal societies with little competitiveness are populated with much happier people overall than societies based on competition that reward A type personalities.

I feel the same as you do Brian. Due to extreme budget cuts in education in my state, my daughter's school district's cut art and music. And that was after talk about JV sports being cut, to which all Hell broke loose by many parents. (JV was saved only due to it being fully funded by booster club support and volunteers.) Another program that got cut? Special Ed, which is ironic seeing that the school population of those needing special Ed has doubled in the last ten years. But sports? It will never get cut. In some parents' eyes (and some schools), it is more important than academics.

And we'll said re: tribal societies. It makes me think of Ishmael.

Prince Of Dorkness

Blockhead wrote:

I am not a billionaire because I value time more than money. I would rather spend time with my family and doing activities/hobbies that I enjoy.

Yeah. I'm sure.

Well maybe if you weren't quite so lazy you'd at least be a millionaire. Because anyone who isn't one clearly doesn't work very hard at all.

Last-12-Exit

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Blockhead wrote:

I am not a billionaire because I value time more than money. I would rather spend time with my family and doing activities/hobbies that I enjoy.

Yeah. I'm sure.

Well maybe if you weren't quite so lazy you'd at least be a millionaire. Because anyone who isn't one clearly doesn't work very hard at all.

I know what you mean. I'm so lazy, my 60-72 hours of work every week nets me about $65000 a year. If only I wasnt so lazy, I might reach $100,000 one day.