93% of Americans have 7% of the Money

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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Depressing. But, after watching this, people will continue to defend capitalism. Which is even more depressing.
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Depressing. But, after watching this, people will continue to defend capitalism. Which is even more depressing.

    Corporatism?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    yet they tell you that "you too can be one of the 7%" and like fools everyone believes them... :fp:
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  • whgarrettwhgarrett Posts: 574
    It doesn't bother me all that much. By now I figured out that money doesn't mean a damn thing. Happiness comes from within. Why are you guys so unhappy?
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    whgarrett wrote:
    It doesn't bother me all that much. By now I figured out that money doesn't mean a damn thing. Happiness comes from within. Why are you guys so unhappy?

    because that disparity in wealth was not the result of anything altruistic and that this gap has further consequences ... see starvation, disease, global warming, suffering ...

    it's hard to feel good about a system that is corrupt and rewards those that only care about themselves ...

    it's like we live in a world that supposedly honours community and helping each other out but in reality only rewards those that put self-interests above all else ...
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    polaris_x wrote:

    it's like we live in a world that supposedly honours community and helping each other out but in reality only rewards those that put self-interests above all else ...

    Communism (in its truest definition, not what Stalin made it out to be) and socialism is mutually exclusive with capitalism. Can't have both unfortunately!
  • whgarrettwhgarrett Posts: 574
    Starvation, disease, global warming, and suffering all seem to be a product of over population to me.

    What are these rewards that you speak of. Monetary?

    Do you really think we can live in a world with 6 billion people without suffering?
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    whgarrett wrote:
    Starvation, disease, global warming, and suffering all seem to be a product of over population to me.

    What are these rewards that you speak of. Monetary?

    Do you really think we can live in a world with 6 billion people without suffering?

    over population is indeed a problem but this planet can easily sustain 7 billion people ... obviously not owning suburban homes with 2 cars and 5 tvs ... but it can ...

    the suffering is directly related to exploitation and disparity ...

    the rewards i speak of is associated with wealth as it is defined in this study ... if 93% of americans have 7% of the money ... i assume the remaining 7% have 93% of the money ... ya ... money can't necessarily buy you happiness ... but it can buy you health and remove stresses in life that can impact your happiness .
  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Depressing. But, after watching this, people will continue to defend capitalism. Which is even more depressing.

    Corporatism?
    Is there a difference?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,084
    whgarrett wrote:
    Starvation, disease, global warming, and suffering all seem to be a product of over population to me.

    What are these rewards that you speak of. Monetary?

    Do you really think we can live in a world with 6 billion people without suffering?

    7.1 billion... and counting.

    If money were more evenly distributed, I'd donate more here:

    http://www.populationconnection.org/sit ... ZPG_splash
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  • whgarrett wrote:
    It doesn't bother me all that much. By now I figured out that money doesn't mean a damn thing. Happiness comes from within. Why are you guys so unhappy?

    Yeah. That's what those people who can't afford to feed themselves say every day.

    And the parents whose kids are disabled or have special needs they can't afford to provide. They're always saying they're so fucking "happy."


    I'm sick and tired of the Billionaire apologists.
  • whgarrett wrote:
    Do you really think we can live in a world with 6 billion people without suffering?

    Oh well that's a good idea.

    "hey... someone's gotta suffer. And Fuck Them. Glad it's not me."

    I say that every day when I go past the homeless shelter.
  • polaris_x wrote:
    i assume the remaining 7% have 93% of the money ...

    Well not exactly...

    1% of the people have 80% of the money and .1% have about 50% of it.

    There are six people in this country who have more money than the bottom 48% of the entire population.

    And those are the people the Tea People are fighting to protect.
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    polaris_x wrote:
    i assume the remaining 7% have 93% of the money ...

    Well not exactly...

    1% of the people have 80% of the money and .1% have about 50% of it.

    There are six people in this country who have more money than the bottom 48% of the entire population.

    And those are the people the Tea People are fighting to protect.

    Can you name these six people?
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Newch91 wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Depressing. But, after watching this, people will continue to defend capitalism. Which is even more depressing.

    Corporatism?
    Is there a difference?

    Corporations with political pull to shape legislation that benefits them and not the rest of us.
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  • whgarrettwhgarrett Posts: 574
    Mr. Dorkness,

    I sometimes feel like you are angry at the entire world. :( I hope that you are a happier person than you portray on this board.

    You and others probably hope I'm smarter than i come off. :lol:
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    I'd be willing to bet that I'm not in that top 7%.

    But...I'd be willing to bet that most of us in here are in the top 3-4% richest in the world.

    If you're going to imply something with those numbers, it's time to think globally and not nationally. There is a much worse imbalance in wealth distribution across globe than there is across our nation.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • BlockheadBlockhead Posts: 1,538
    know1 wrote:
    I'd be willing to bet that I'm not in that top 7%.

    But...I'd be willing to bet that most of us in here are in the top 3-4% richest in the world.

    If you're going to imply something with those numbers, it's time to think globally and not nationally. There is a much worse imbalance in wealth distribution across globe than there is across our nation.

    Typical AMT thought process: Hate people with money, tie it to a percentage and forget to apply the same percentage to your self globally...
    Here are some more interesting facts. Half of the world’s richest one percent live right here in the US. While the average American income is a part of the richest one percent in the world as well….wait what? You mean to tell me that mostly half of the “rich” are Americans? In fact, if you’re above the poverty line in the US, you’re a part of the richest 10 percent of the people in the entire world. It's funny seeing people getting so upset by this video, yet posting from the comfort of their air-conditioned/heated homes, on their labtops, smartphones, or shiny new tablets...LOL
    I don't think people here truly know what poor or suffering is...
  • pj1981pj1981 Posts: 288
    This seems logical to me. The rich get richer and more influential.
    Has this not been happening for centuries?
  • BlockheadBlockhead Posts: 1,538
    whgarrett wrote:
    It doesn't bother me all that much. By now I figured out that money doesn't mean a damn thing. Happiness comes from within. Why are you guys so unhappy?

    Yeah. That's what those people who can't afford to feed themselves say every day.

    And the parents whose kids are disabled or have special needs they can't afford to provide. They're always saying they're so fucking "happy."


    I'm sick and tired of the Billionaire apologists.
    Whats stopping them from being part of the 7%? (U.S. speaking)
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Blockhead wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    I'd be willing to bet that I'm not in that top 7%.

    But...I'd be willing to bet that most of us in here are in the top 3-4% richest in the world.

    If you're going to imply something with those numbers, it's time to think globally and not nationally. There is a much worse imbalance in wealth distribution across globe than there is across our nation.

    Typical AMT thought process: Hate people with money, tie it to a percentage and forget to apply the same percentage to your self globally...
    Here are some more interesting facts. Half of the world’s richest one percent live right here in the US. While the average American income is a part of the richest one percent in the world as well….wait what? You mean to tell me that mostly half of the “rich” are Americans? In fact, if you’re above the poverty line in the US, you’re a part of the richest 10 percent of the people in the entire world. It's funny seeing people getting so upset by this video, yet posting from the comfort of their air-conditioned/heated homes, on their labtops, smartphones, or shiny new tablets...LOL
    I don't think people here truly know what poor or suffering is...

    Yep. This is what I was trying to say exactly. Thanks for backing it up with facts.

    The richest Americans are demonized by people who are, themselves, among the very richest people in the world.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • rollingsrollings unknown Posts: 7,124
    Where'd you get the title from ? The video says that 80% of the country owns 7% of the money.

    Most startling to me was the fact that 1% of the country owns 40% of the money.......
    The richest 1% of the country, the most richest people, own 40% of the nation's wealth!

    What a bunch of hogs. seriously.

    I'm not saying that I want their money, but there are alot of dirt poor people in the country and world who are poor because they're born into it.

    Those born into riches usually stay in those riches.

    it's an eye-opener. The rich get richer without doing a thing.
    while the poor have the least opportunity, it's the truth.

    Sure there are success stories about determination etc. paying off. But for the most part, those in poverty stay there struggling, while the rich live off their riches and live a life of luxury.

    Its a parallelogram
  • Blockhead wrote:
    I don't think people here truly know what poor or suffering is...

    OK... so I have never once said I was "poor" or "suffering."

    I have said that I'm one of the dreaded top 2% whose taxes should go up to keep the system from which I profited going.

    I think I have even, maybe once, talked about how I have two houses so I can bounce back and forth between Los Angeles and San Francisco where I live and work.

    But if you're going to try to haul out the "there are starving children in China" deal, you should also not forget to mention that in most other countries, medical care isn't unavailable or out of reach and in most of those countries, the cost of living isn't as astronomical as it is here. Yes, there are 700 million people in India who are living in abject poverty with no running water, little food, no electricity and no schools. Please don't tell me that the people in the US are "rich" because they're not those people.

    And don't try to tell us that we should ignore the totally lopsided wealth distribution in the world since even the poor people in the US have more than the nomadic tribes of the African Savannah.
  • whgarrett wrote:
    Mr. Dorkness,

    I sometimes feel like you are angry at the entire world. :( I hope that you are a happier person than you portray on this board.

    You and others probably hope I'm smarter than i come off. :lol:

    Well I'm not really going to worry about the opinions of someone who clearly posts obnoxious and provocative stuff to start flame wars.

    So you can feel whatever you please.
  • Blockhead wrote:
    Whats stopping them from being part of the 7%? (U.S. speaking)

    Well we could start with a system that's intentionally set up to drain money from the lower wager earners and shower it upon the richest. Banks that legally deceive, cheat and manipulate their customers, corporations that have removed as many jobs as possible to third world countries so people have to accept lower pay and fewer protections.

    But I don't think you actually think that's a serious question.

    How come you aren't a billionaire?
  • pj1981pj1981 Posts: 288
    whgarrett wrote:
    You and others probably hope I'm smarter than i come off. :lol:
    I think you are mucho smart and the headgear very sexy ;)
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,104
    Blockhead wrote:
    Whats stopping them from being part of the 7%? (U.S. speaking)

    Well we could start with a system that's intentionally set up to drain money from the lower wager earners and shower it upon the richest. Banks that legally deceive, cheat and manipulate their customers, corporations that have removed as many jobs as possible to third world countries so people have to accept lower pay and fewer protections.

    But I don't think you actually think that's a serious question.

    How come you aren't a billionaire?

    I think he is serious about the question. Many conservatives think that very high wealth is available to all Americans if they would just work hard enough. With that view, they can resolve the question of poverty by saying those people are lazy and irresponsible.
  • BlockheadBlockhead Posts: 1,538
    Go Beavers wrote:
    Blockhead wrote:
    Whats stopping them from being part of the 7%? (U.S. speaking)

    Well we could start with a system that's intentionally set up to drain money from the lower wager earners and shower it upon the richest. Banks that legally deceive, cheat and manipulate their customers, corporations that have removed as many jobs as possible to third world countries so people have to accept lower pay and fewer protections.

    But I don't think you actually think that's a serious question.

    How come you aren't a billionaire?

    I think he is serious about the question. Many conservatives think that very high wealth is available to all Americans if they would just work hard enough. With that view, they can resolve the question of poverty by saying those people are lazy and irresponsible.
    We can cite examples all day long of people who were born with nothing, or came to america with nothing, and made it big in America. Probably more so than any other country. 86% of millionaires in America are self-made... So what now???
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    0.2% of it ....

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