I think, again, we need to be greatful that they are still together and doing anything as a band rather then broken up and doing nothing at all...enjoy the shows/new music they are releasing
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You are absolutely right. We should be thankful they are still together and producing anything after all these years. It could be much, much worse.
Now if they would just book a couple nights on Causeway Street I would be completely happy.
this is probably the busiest the members have been in a long time.
....just not collectively....
This.
You hear that they are "taking it easy" or "spending time with family" quite a bit these days, but the fact is, they are spending seemingly the same amount of time on music they always have ... just not on Pearl Jam.
Your right! we are onto them now!!! we need to take this injustice to CNN....go public with it and force their hand into touring half of every year and release new albums every 6 months!!!
I think, again, we need to be greatful that they are still together and doing anything as a band rather then broken up and doing nothing at all...enjoy the shows/new music they are releasing
I hear you baby, loud and clear. -- said in the Phil Hartman as Frank Sinatra voice.
You are absolutely right. We should be thankful they are still together and producing anything after all these years. It could be much, much worse.
Now if they would just book a couple nights on Causeway Street I would be completely happy.
Eddie wrapped up a solo tour in December that included more US dates than PJ has played together in close to three years. Matt is touring with Soundgarden, Jeff with Random and Tres Mts, Stone with Brad. We keep hearing that they don't want to tour but it seems like everyone already is touring, just not together.
What I've also begun to consider is that these guys might enjoy the smaller/club intimate shows. In fact, I remember an older interview where someone said they wished they could do smaller shows every now and then. These shows being smaller and more personal, I assume they get a better interaction with fans (not meaning the wackos that got on stage and/or suggested to Play with Ed on a tune )
I would love to see them mix up larger & smaller venues within each region a la Neil Young. That way you get the best of both worlds. I don't think they're pulling our legs or anything, SOMETHING is coming down the pike, that's all we know. Everything else is pure speculation until they drop official announcements. That being said, I'm totally stoked for whatever and whenever - preferably sooner. When I start seeing Jeff get just as excited about getting back to PJ as he is with RMDM now, then I'll know something's happening.
It's obviously going to be harder now with Matt Cameron being in two major bands, I can't imagine the workload involved with that, the recording and touring schedule has to match up and he's not exactly in his twenties anymore. Then again he doesn't age so maybe it's not an issue!
Not lazy at all. To still be doing what they're doing after all these years and still making new music and still being one of, if not the best, live band in the world when all of them are pushing 50 years old - no, they're not lazy.
Sure, everyone wants a new abum and new music, but if these guys are still doing all of their side stuff which will lead to even bigger and better creativity when it does come to new music as a band - I'm all for it.
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la·zy (lz)
adj. la·zi·er, la·zi·est
1. Resistant to work or exertion; disposed to idleness.
2. Slow-moving; sluggish: a lazy river.
3. Conducive to idleness or indolence: a lazy summer day.
4. Depicted as reclining or lying on its side. Used of a brand on livestock.
Not lazy at all. To still be doing what they're doing after all these years and still making new music and still being one of, if not the best, live band in the world when all of them are pushing 50 years old - no, they're not lazy.
Sure, everyone wants a new abum and new music, but if these guys are still doing all of their side stuff which will lead to even bigger and better creativity when it does come to new music as a band - I'm all for it.
Exactly my initial point (before it was hijacked). Lazy is the last characterization you could affix to them.
I'm 40 and have a great relationship with my Sisters and their husbands and kids and used to spend a ton of time with them.
I used to hang out with my nephews a couple of times a week. Now I hang out with one of them a couple of times a month.
Do I love them or care about them less? Nope, we all just happen to be in differrent parts of our lives where
getting together a couple of times a week is just not practical.
Do I think it will be like this with the fam from now on? Not at all. I'm sure at some point in the future I'll be hanging out with them more often like I did when I was 30.
In other words, I think all is okay in PJ land.
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A bit of a selfish thing to say. They don't owe you anything. Really. They don't. They can do what they want.
You think they "owe" you another album, or better t-shirts? They aren't "obligated" to release a new album in a set amount of time or do arena shows etc. They've been doing this for 20+ years. As already mentioned, just be thankful they are still around at all after so long.
If they quit for good today, I would be sad, but also understand, to a degree. They have no obligations to us fans nor do they owe us anything.
I bet if you accused Eddie of being lazy to his face he'd be offended....
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I sometimes wonder if there's a bit of "what's the point of this band now?" from any band member's perspectives. The last two albums have seemed slightly forced (for the sake of . . .?), and the live shows seem to be getting more greatist-hits-ish. Never seemed lazy but maybe a tad bit of auto-pilot in certain areas? Can you blame them though? I'm only 33, and I consider myself a healthy dude and I can't imagine I'd be able to get up on stage and exert what they exert at their age. This is a goofy thing to admit but I always admired how healthy the guys in this band are lol. I mean most of us have seen them live and can attest that they're not lazy. BUT I will say that same energy we see from them live doesn't also seem to be there when they record now. I for one am glad that they seem to be taking a wise patient approach with whatever is in store next. And it does seem a bit cruel at times when the impact that death has on your creativity doesn't seem to factor in as to why more time is taken (simply put, if one of my best friends just died I would not want to go into work the next day, especially if the work I was doing would remind me of said friend).
Just realized this thread is from 2013. Maybe they should go the collaboration album route at this point on a few tracks,
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They have not experienced the pressures of a day to day job and having money to put food on the table. So they don’t know what that stress is like. Sure, they worked random jobs but that was when they were single and needed to pay for guitars and food. So, someone who works 40-50 hours every week with 5-10 days of vacation may say they are lazy.
On the flip side, they have had to deal with fame and the pressures of being in the public eye and making a lot of people happy. Those are pressures the average person can never understand.
We’d all retire at 45 if we could. They were able to do it. Good for the band I guess.
In light of recent events 1993 PJ would play a pop up show event to draw attendance to protest the lack of gun control laws. But its 2019... the anger just isnt there.
They have not experienced the pressures of a day to day job and having money to put food on the table. So they don’t know what that stress is like. Sure, they worked random jobs but that was when they were single and needed to pay for guitars and food. So, someone who works 40-50 hours every week with 5-10 days of vacation may say they are lazy.
On the flip side, they have had to deal with fame and the pressures of being in the public eye and making a lot of people happy. Those are pressures the average person can never understand.
We’d all retire at 45 if we could. They were able to do it. Good for the band I guess.
I'm not sure I get the comparison to regular Joe's like me but rather I'd compare it to other mega rock acts.
Unfortunately they are on the very light end of activity compared to mega acts like U2, Foos, Metallica even The Stones and Who.
They have earned this and we have earned the right to be bummed about it.
U2 tours a lot more than PJ, but typically in the past U2 would tour and disappear for 2-3 years. PJ would do smaller tours every year. I prefer the PJ model although U2 plays more shows and hits more places on its tours than PJ.
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I hear you baby, loud and clear. -- said in the Phil Hartman as Frank Sinatra voice.
You are absolutely right. We should be thankful they are still together and producing anything after all these years. It could be much, much worse.
Now if they would just book a couple nights on Causeway Street I would be completely happy.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Uh yeah dude, like anyone said that :roll:
It's called an observation.
I hear you there!!!
Until they announce the tour.
Hopefully, it'll be longer than 3 hours
What I've also begun to consider is that these guys might enjoy the smaller/club intimate shows. In fact, I remember an older interview where someone said they wished they could do smaller shows every now and then. These shows being smaller and more personal, I assume they get a better interaction with fans (not meaning the wackos that got on stage and/or suggested to Play with Ed on a tune
This gives them all the chance to do that.
Have they become more entitled?
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There's just one word I still believe...and it's LOVE.
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just older
"what a long, strange trip it's been"
Sure, everyone wants a new abum and new music, but if these guys are still doing all of their side stuff which will lead to even bigger and better creativity when it does come to new music as a band - I'm all for it.
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uninterested.......
maybe .... more like a break
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adj. la·zi·er, la·zi·est
1. Resistant to work or exertion; disposed to idleness.
2. Slow-moving; sluggish: a lazy river.
3. Conducive to idleness or indolence: a lazy summer day.
4. Depicted as reclining or lying on its side. Used of a brand on livestock.
Lazy? Nope, don't think so...
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Exactly my initial point (before it was hijacked). Lazy is the last characterization you could affix to them.
I used to hang out with my nephews a couple of times a week. Now I hang out with one of them a couple of times a month.
Do I love them or care about them less? Nope, we all just happen to be in differrent parts of our lives where
getting together a couple of times a week is just not practical.
Do I think it will be like this with the fam from now on? Not at all. I'm sure at some point in the future I'll be hanging out with them more often like I did when I was 30.
In other words, I think all is okay in PJ land.
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
You think they "owe" you another album, or better t-shirts? They aren't "obligated" to release a new album in a set amount of time or do arena shows etc. They've been doing this for 20+ years. As already mentioned, just be thankful they are still around at all after so long.
If they quit for good today, I would be sad, but also understand, to a degree. They have no obligations to us fans nor do they owe us anything.
I bet if you accused Eddie of being lazy to his face he'd be offended....
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Holy hell he would! But he would say it with love.
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There's just one word I still believe...and it's LOVE.
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On the flip side, they have had to deal with fame and the pressures of being in the public eye and making a lot of people happy. Those are pressures the average person can never understand.
We’d all retire at 45 if we could. They were able to do it. Good for the band I guess.
I'm not sure I get the comparison to regular Joe's like me but rather I'd compare it to other mega rock acts.
Unfortunately they are on the very light end of activity compared to mega acts like U2, Foos, Metallica even The Stones and Who.
They have earned this and we have earned the right to be bummed about it.
(Oh and 2013...lol)