He did pronounce everything else pretty well, without the standard mistakes that English-speakers make in Italian. (Not only the R sound but the GN and GL sound that do not exist in the English language, as we don't have the TH). I was quite impressed, notes or no notes, to be honest.
Today I was trying to teach Romanian(very similar to Italian) 4th graders how to say THIRTY (30) and it was ridiculous. Haha thirty and forty are two different numbers! Ahh maybe tomorrow...
Ed said in Antwerp that he was fluent in French and almost as good in Dutch, but since the Belgians can't decide which one to speak, he'd just speak English...
It really was nice of Ed to try out the different languages, although he got a little confused sometimes. I think I heard him say 'muchas gracias' in Antwerp
Yes he did say that in Antwerp you can hear it on the bootleg..* muchas gracias*...LOL
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I mean that if you hear someone speaking say Japanese or Chinese or Czech, or any language you have no knowledge of whatsoever, you can't normally tell where they're from originally...but with Americans you can 9/10..the American accent overpowers everything...they just speak american with different words if you see what I mean..
French are quite guilty of that too, to a lesser degree (which is why nobody guesses I'm French..I don't have ZAT accent).
So it is to Ed's credit he's making the effort not just to say the words but to say them with the right accent.
yea, i got that now. coool. i appreciate the clarifications. so then it was just as i thought that in general, americans are not as good at taking on the accent of the foreign language they are trying to speak.
and yea...i definitely enjoy ed's joke in belgium about french/dutch....good stuff. haha.
Yep... people run away and cross themselves when they hear an american accent (though most Europeans would also include the canadian and australian accent in there because they can't tell the difference - except in the UK and Ireland)
funny thing tho.....in countries that did not speak english as a first language, at least the ones i have visited, even when i spoke, in english of course...no one ever guessed i was american. more often than not, they would ask if i were english, which i always thought funny. but then in thinking about it.....how can one who does NOT speak the language really pick up on different accents of said language? sure, perhaps if you've a good ear, you'll hear differences...but unless you actually get to the point of hearing said foreign language spoken again and again, enough for you to notice different speech pattewrns...and also know where those people are from...would be rather difficult at best.
i know for myself, if i heard someone speaking french, there's no way i'd know whether they are from france, canada, belgium, etc. all i would know/recognize is the fact that they are speaking french.
i also know while i was learning/teaching ESL in prague...i often wondered if the american, english and scottish accents confused the students, and our instructor said not at all...that overall only the really advanced students ever even notice the difference.
all interesting stuff.
and sure......i am a very scary american, so you better run. haha.
Well, I was in Prague and Berlin and he really made a huge effort to speak czech, which to me -my native language is spanish- is like the most impossible to understand language ever...so I have no clue what he said, but totally appreciated the effort...
In German, which is a language I'm familiar with even though I don't speak it I think he was pretty good, even managed a decent pronunciation...
About accents and stuff, I believe that Italians, French, Spaniards and Argentinians are the ones with the most peculiar english accent...you can almost always tell where they are from by their english pronunciation
He read from notes in all instances.
I don't think he speaks remotely any of the languages (maybe a tiny bit of Spanish or Italian??).
To his credit, he didn't sound American in any of the ones I heard him try...and that's unusual..you generally can tell even in languages you can't understand..it stands out for some reason in a way that English or Oz accents don't ...but then I don't think he has a particularly strong American accent anyway..unlike Stone or Mike!!
From what I heard of the various locals, his pronounciation wasn't bad..I know his French was pretty good, esp. considering he doesn't actually speak the language.
Made me laugh though when in Prague (and Berlin?) he went into pidgin English to say something else not translated...like anyone would understand better with bad grammar :rolleyes:
ed's an actor. a method actor and method singer. that's how he dives into shit and always 'feels' it.
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everytime i have to take a crap i sing EVACUATION!!!
EVACUATION!!
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i know for myself, if i heard someone speaking french, there's no way i'd know whether they are from france, canada, belgium, etc. all i would know/recognize is the fact that they are speaking french.
If you do speak a bit of French, you probably wouldn't know where they came from but if they have a strong 'local' accent like some of the canadians or french (south of france) have (Pegasus - don't mean you!!!!), you might have more difficulties in understanding them (and wondering if they are native french speakers!). Even as a perfectly bilingual (french-english/american) person, I sometimes have difficulties in understanding some canadians (also because of patois)
i also know while i was learning/teaching ESL in prague...i often wondered if the american, english and scottish accents confused the students, and our instructor said not at all...that overall only the really advanced students ever even notice the difference.
There again, a strong scottish or irish accent is soooo different to 'general' english (sorry Dunk, Helen, Aine, Neil, Fraser and all - I'm not bashing your fellow countrymen!)! I remember when I first moved to this country (and was only used to 'standard' accents), a group of people we having an animated conversation. I asked my husband if he knew what language they were speaking. He said... English! They were a group of (non-kilted) scotsmen and I couldn't understand a thing! I'm much better now...
But I'm presuming the notes were writting for Ed phonetically??? I doubt he could muster all the different pronunciations of several languages on his own.
Here is how the notes in croatian language looked like:
the crowd in zagreb loved it, 'cause ed really tried to make all the right accents.
although the english accent was present in his speech, we understod everything he tried to say.
Now I'm a little jealous he never tried his hand at Irish although nobody would have understood him
At least he talked about Ireland. The same for the Netherlands: I think he tried 4 words in Dutch or less, but at least he told nice little stories about Matt Lukin's wife being Dutch, and some more. Next time he'll be forced to speak more Dutch!
At least he talked about Ireland. The same for the Netherlands: I think he tried 4 words in Dutch or less, but at least he told nice little stories about Matt Lukin's wife being Dutch, and some more. Next time he'll be forced to speak more Dutch!
groetjes,
Mirella
Are you gonna hold him at gunpoint or something?
Yeh, I liked his little stories about the girlfriends and his daughter and stuff.
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If you do speak a bit of French, you probably wouldn't know where they came from but if they have a strong 'local' accent like some of the canadians or french (south of france) have (Pegasus - don't mean you!!!!), you might have more difficulties in understanding them (and wondering if they are native french speakers!). Even as a perfectly bilingual (french-english/american) person, I sometimes have difficulties in understanding some canadians (also because of patois)
Oh, I do have a fairly strong regional accent...bit like Neil's Scot one in strength. ..but East of France can be just as strong..try Belgium or Switzerland too..and less clear than southern accents for foreigners (because we pronounce more letters).
But in any language, if you take someone from a deep rural area (less mixing of origins so accents stay stronger), their accent can be pretty hard to understand even for a native speaker.
French TV often subtitles Canadians because we can't quite understand (aside from the slightly different language)..like the US subtitles the Scots
There again, a strong scottish or irish accent is soooo different to 'general' english (sorry Dunk, Helen, Aine, Neil, Fraser and all - I'm not bashing your fellow countrymen!)! I remember when I first moved to this country (and was only used to 'standard' accents), a group of people we having an animated conversation. I asked my husband if he knew what language they were speaking. He said... English! They were a group of (non-kilted) scotsmen and I couldn't understand a thing! I'm much better now...
tell me about it!..I still have problems understanding anything north of Galsgow...and my first flatmates were from Yorkshire..took some getting used to..one had a girlfriend that even my English (home counties) friends had problems to understand!
But I love regional accents...it would be boring if everyone was speaking the same!
the crowd in zagreb loved it, 'cause ed really tried to make all the right accents.
although the english accent was present in his speech, we understod everything he tried to say.
I wouldn't even know how to START reading this!
funny, but in French he actually sounds a bit spanish
I think that it's very nice that he tries to speak all of those languages.
I hope he'll try Slovenian language some day:) Slovenian is one of the few languages to have preserved the dual grammatical number from Proto-Indo-European. So you can say WE but you only mean two people (you + somebody)..nice huh?:)sLOVEnia:)Slovenians are said to be 'a nation of poets' due to our language, so Eddie give it a try:)
And we have that 'R that you chat about too.
Eddie has a talent for languages that is obvious and I think that all people that can sing well, have that inside them.
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the crowd in zagreb loved it, 'cause ed really tried to make all the right accents.
although the english accent was present in his speech, we understod everything he tried to say.
I'm curious to see his notes in Greek!
Btw he did pretty well in Athens
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Blah I dont know if half of us could locate Mexico on a map so dont feel bad. They speak mexican down there right??
Today I was trying to teach Romanian(very similar to Italian) 4th graders how to say THIRTY (30) and it was ridiculous. Haha thirty and forty are two different numbers! Ahh maybe tomorrow...
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yea, i got that now.
and yea...i definitely enjoy ed's joke in belgium about french/dutch....good stuff.
funny thing tho.....in countries that did not speak english as a first language, at least the ones i have visited, even when i spoke, in english of course...no one ever guessed i was american. more often than not, they would ask if i were english, which i always thought funny. but then in thinking about it.....how can one who does NOT speak the language really pick up on different accents of said language? sure, perhaps if you've a good ear, you'll hear differences...but unless you actually get to the point of hearing said foreign language spoken again and again, enough for you to notice different speech pattewrns...and also know where those people are from...would be rather difficult at best.
i know for myself, if i heard someone speaking french, there's no way i'd know whether they are from france, canada, belgium, etc. all i would know/recognize is the fact that they are speaking french.
i also know while i was learning/teaching ESL in prague...i often wondered if the american, english and scottish accents confused the students, and our instructor said not at all...that overall only the really advanced students ever even notice the difference.
all interesting stuff.
and sure......i am a very scary american, so you better run.
one last thing. . .
clearly, i agree with you!
and my personal speech patterns absolutely concur!
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
In German, which is a language I'm familiar with even though I don't speak it I think he was pretty good, even managed a decent pronunciation...
About accents and stuff, I believe that Italians, French, Spaniards and Argentinians are the ones with the most peculiar english accent...you can almost always tell where they are from by their english pronunciation
ed's an actor. a method actor and method singer. that's how he dives into shit and always 'feels' it.
everytime i have to take a crap i sing EVACUATION!!!
EVACUATION!!
"i'll let you be in my dream if i can be in your dream." -b.dylan
There again, a strong scottish or irish accent is soooo different to 'general' english (sorry Dunk, Helen, Aine, Neil, Fraser and all - I'm not bashing your fellow countrymen!)! I remember when I first moved to this country (and was only used to 'standard' accents), a group of people we having an animated conversation. I asked my husband if he knew what language they were speaking. He said... English! They were a group of (non-kilted) scotsmen and I couldn't understand a thing! I'm much better now...
Don't need to... I'm one as well!
So basically... Ed's done really well!
Here is how the notes in croatian language looked like:
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the crowd in zagreb loved it, 'cause ed really tried to make all the right accents.
although the english accent was present in his speech, we understod everything he tried to say.
At least he talked about Ireland. The same for the Netherlands: I think he tried 4 words in Dutch or less, but at least he told nice little stories about Matt Lukin's wife being Dutch, and some more. Next time he'll be forced to speak more Dutch!
groetjes,
Mirella
Yeh, I liked his little stories about the girlfriends and his daughter and stuff.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Oh, I do have a fairly strong regional accent...bit like Neil's Scot one in strength. ..but East of France can be just as strong..try Belgium or Switzerland too..and less clear than southern accents for foreigners (because we pronounce more letters).
But in any language, if you take someone from a deep rural area (less mixing of origins so accents stay stronger), their accent can be pretty hard to understand even for a native speaker.
French TV often subtitles Canadians because we can't quite understand (aside from the slightly different language)..like the US subtitles the Scots
tell me about it!..I still have problems understanding anything north of Galsgow...and my first flatmates were from Yorkshire..took some getting used to..one had a girlfriend that even my English (home counties) friends had problems to understand!
But I love regional accents...it would be boring if everyone was speaking the same!
funny, but in French he actually sounds a bit spanish
I hope he'll try Slovenian language some day:) Slovenian is one of the few languages to have preserved the dual grammatical number from Proto-Indo-European. So you can say WE but you only mean two people (you + somebody)..nice huh?:)sLOVEnia:)Slovenians are said to be 'a nation of poets' due to our language, so Eddie give it a try:)
And we have that 'R that you chat about too.
Eddie has a talent for languages that is obvious and I think that all people that can sing well, have that inside them.
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I'm curious to see his notes in Greek!
Btw he did pretty well in Athens