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peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
edited January 2013 in A Moving Train
What's up, France?

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/201 ... in-algeria
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  • riotgrlriotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    Why does this seem like another American "intervention" in the making? I thought this CNN article did a decent job of explaining why we might actually want to care about this situation rather than sitting back and continuing to ignore problems abroad.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/16/world/africa/mali-six-reasons/index.html
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Seems that France has took the lead in the ass kicking business.

    Ironic that a US led UN bombing of Libya is responsible for heavily arming al-Qaeda in a country the size of Afghanistan.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    I wonder if this gives a look into the future of what may happen in Syria once Assad falls?

    A lot of weapons, no security, and groups of fanatics = bad times
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,087
    Oh goody, another war. What do these world leaders do? Throw a dart at a map pinned to the wall and say, "OK boys, let's go kick some ass"?
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  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    brianlux wrote:
    Oh goody, another war. What do these world leaders do? Throw a dart at a map pinned to the wall and say, "OK boys, let's go kick some ass"?

    No silly, they spin the globe and drop their finger. Darts are too dangerous. :P
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Apparently al-Qaeda is there...

    and Mali is also very rich in natural resources...

    The US is currently providing intelligence and wouldn't be surprised if we have a few special forces dudes poking around.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,087
    Jonny P.-- Spin the Globe War! A new game from Hasbro?

    Peacefrompaul-- Resources and religion. Who'd have ever thought? :lol: ... :|

    Anyone wanna lay odds on our (the US) chances of getting in on this?
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    We already are involved in one way or another. Leon Panetta said that we are providing intel to French forces which could mean we have the CIA in the area or quite possibly special forces.

    As for a full on ground operation, I don't think so
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    For anyone not following the story, France launched their attack after their intelligence detected militants moving south to capture 2 key towns that could have set up for the capital of Mali to be attacked. The militants are very well armed with munitions taken from Libya's armorys.

    I've read stories in the past year that are for the most part overlooked by the majority of us. The citizens of Mali practice a less strict (sane) version of Islam. These guys are overtaking towns with brute force. Public floggings, amputations, and executions .... standard fare to set examples. Women are being supressed. No music. No fun.

    They are dug in deep and are looking to expand their territory. France was surprised with the sophistication of their weaponry.

    It's not quite as simple as just spinning the globe and playing pin the tail on the terrorist. The threat is real and the reaction is justified.

    I'm just glad France is picking up the tab this time.
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Jason P wrote:
    For anyone not following the story, France launched their attack after their intelligence detected militants moving south to capture 2 key towns that could have set up for the capital of Mali to be attacked. The militants are very well armed with munitions taken from Libya's armorys.

    I've read stories in the past year that are for the most part overlooked by the majority of us. The citizens of Mali practice a less strict (sane) version of Islam. These guys are overtaking towns with brute force. Public floggings, amputations, and executions .... standard fare to set examples. Women are being supressed. No music. No fun.

    They are dug in deep and are looking to expand their territory. France was surprised with the sophistication of their weaponry.

    It's not quite as simple as just spinning the globe and playing pin the tail on the terrorist. The threat is real and the reaction is justified.

    I'm just glad France is picking up the tab this time.

    Go ahead France, if it was us I'd be against it from day one. I still don't like it, but it's not my place to speak for France.
  • Bronx BombersBronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    As for a full on ground operation, I don't think so

    Remember this is France we're talking about

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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Bronx Bombers wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    As for a full on ground operation, I don't think so

    Remember this is France we're talking about
    Cheese-eating surrender monkeys
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,460
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    We already are involved in one way or another. Leon Panetta said that we are providing intel to French forces which could mean we have the CIA in the area or quite possibly special forces.

    As for a full on ground operation, I don't think so


    From what I saw, France doesn;t have drones. So I think Leon is referring to us using drones for them.

    But I could be wrong, I scanned it.
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    cincybearcat wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    We already are involved in one way or another. Leon Panetta said that we are providing intel to French forces which could mean we have the CIA in the area or quite possibly special forces.

    As for a full on ground operation, I don't think so


    From what I saw, France doesn;t have drones. So I think Leon is referring to us using drones for them.

    But I could be wrong, I scanned it.

    He never said that, but you could be right. Just seems like an area we might put down a small SEAL team as well.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    The Algerian's have raided the oil field and taken in back over from the fanatics. Reports of captives being killed in the raid are ranging from 6 to 40.

    The raiders were letting Muslims go and killing Christains and infidels according to eye witnesses.

    http://news.yahoo.com/sahara-hostage-siege-turns-mali-war-global-010547607.html
  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    Jason P wrote:
    Bronx Bombers wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    As for a full on ground operation, I don't think so

    Remember this is France we're talking about
    Cheese-eating surrender monkeys
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,963
    Hey, it's the thread no one cares about.

    ;)
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Hey, it's the thread no one cares about.

    ;)

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    Watch it! :lol:
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,963
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Hey, it's the thread no one cares about.

    ;)

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    Watch it! :lol:
    :)
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  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    edited January 2013
    cincybearcat wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    We already are involved in one way or another. Leon Panetta said that we are providing intel to French forces which could mean we have the CIA in the area or quite possibly special forces.

    As for a full on ground operation, I don't think so


    From what I saw, France doesn;t have drones. So I think Leon is referring to us using drones for them.

    But I could be wrong, I scanned it.

    My friends son was just sent to Africa......she does not keep up with what goes on in the World....she says he was sent to the west side where it is peaceful....maybe he told her that....I would never tell her different.....her son operates the drones....so looks like you are right on!
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    aerial wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    We already are involved in one way or another. Leon Panetta said that we are providing intel to French forces which could mean we have the CIA in the area or quite possibly special forces.

    As for a full on ground operation, I don't think so


    From what I saw, France doesn;t have drones. So I think Leon is referring to us using drones for them.

    But I could be wrong, I scanned it.

    My friends son was just sent to Africa......she does not keep up with what goes on in the World....she says he was sent to the west side where it is peaceful....maybe he told her that....I did would never tell her different.....her son operates the drones....so looks like you are right on!

    Interesting...
  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    Go ahead France, if it was us I'd be against it from day one. I still don't like it, but it's not my place to speak for France.

    It's not like non-Americans don't speak about our affairs. If this were us and not France there's be 10 threads of outrage on page 1, instead of just this thread chilling on page 3.
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  • fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
    War is ugly and never fun! But it is sometimes necessary! Sad to say but its reality....and we live in the world in which we live.....not the one we WANT to live in!
    Theres no time like the present

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,717
    Jason P wrote:
    The Algerian's have raided the oil field and taken in back over from the fanatics. Reports of captives being killed in the raid are ranging from 6 to 40.

    The raiders were letting Muslims go and killing Christains and infidels according to eye witnesses.

    http://news.yahoo.com/sahara-hostage-siege-turns-mali-war-global-010547607.html
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    SatansFuton wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    Go ahead France, if it was us I'd be against it from day one. I still don't like it, but it's not my place to speak for France.

    It's not like non-Americans don't speak about our affairs. If this were us and not France there's be 10 threads of outrage on page 1, instead of just this thread chilling on page 3.

    Absolutely
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    French forces capture Gao

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/20 ... 31532.html
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    We are now involved militarily.


    http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/26/world/afr ... ?hpt=hp_t2


    Imagine that, another unconstitutional action by the Obama administration.


    Maybe someone can explain to me why we arm al-qaeda in some places (Egypy, Syria, eyc.) but fight them in other places (Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.). Hmmmn?
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,781
    unsung wrote:
    We are now involved militarily.


    http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/26/world/afr ... ?hpt=hp_t2


    Imagine that, another unconstitutional action by the Obama administration.


    Maybe someone can explain to me why we arm al-qaeda in some places (Egypy, Syria, eyc.) but fight them in other places (Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.). Hmmmn?

    Here is a direct quote from the above referenced article....

    U.S. policy prohibits direct military aid to Mali because the fledgling government is the result of a coup. No support can go to the Malian military directly until leaders are chosen through an election.

    last I checked nothing about this is "unconstitutional"
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    So I guess this administration is in direct violation of that.
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