The NRA is scared it is losing Control

puremagic

We all know this to be TRUE - had the Sandy Hook shooting happened in a minority urban area school WE as a NATION would not be seriously talking about gun control.

So now the NRA wants to defuse the issue by injecting racism into the equation.

The issue is about .223 ammo repeatedly fired from an AR-15 into the bodies of 4, 5, 6 and 7 year old children along with adults, at the velocity of point-blank range.

If now is not the time to talk about taking some type of preventive gun control action – WHEN!!!

Jeanwah

And it's going to lose control just like Big Tobacco did.

dimitrispearljam

Jeanwah wrote:

And it's going to lose control just like Big Tobacco did.

81

NRA doesn't control squat. American's control it. and when you consider that 45% of american's live in a home with a fire arm, i don't see them going away any time soon.

the wolf

81 wrote:

NRA doesn't control squat. American's control it. and when you consider that 45% of american's live in a home with a fire arm, i don't see them going away any time soon.

The NRA does have a massive amount of influence on politics though, always have.

Better Dan

81 wrote:

NRA doesn't control squat. American's control it. and when you consider that 45% of american's live in a home with a fire arm, i don't see them going away any time soon.

Just because people own fire arms doesn't mean they support the NRA. Several of my coworkers own multiple guns, think the NRA is a crazy lobby group and also think that gun control is needed. Not everyone who owns guns is like the NRA, Fox News, or the extreme right wingers on this board.

Zoso

Jeanwah wrote:

And it's going to lose control just like Big Tobacco did.

yep.

mysticweed

they have already lost control
of their fucking senses
blaming games and movies
and the fantasy that arming slaves could have prevented slavery
come on

cincybearcat

puremagic wrote:

We all know this to be TRUE - had the Sandy Hook shooting happened in a minority urban area school WE as a NATION would not be seriously talking about gun control.

I don't think that is true.

fife

mysticweed wrote:

they have already lost control
of their fucking senses
blaming games and movies
and the fantasy that arming slaves could have prevented slavery
come on

i love that the nra blames video games and then release their own video game. Just makes no sense

peacefrompaul

fife wrote:

mysticweed wrote:

they have already lost control
of their fucking senses
blaming games and movies
and the fantasy that arming slaves could have prevented slavery
come on

i love that the nra blames video games and then release their own video game. Just makes no sense

The one for 4 year olds and up?

The NRA is fucking ridiculous

USARAY

Better Dan wrote:

81 wrote:

NRA doesn't control squat. American's control it. and when you consider that 45% of american's live in a home with a fire arm, i don't see them going away any time soon.

Just because people own fire arms doesn't mean they support the NRA. Several of my coworkers own multiple guns, think the NRA is a crazy lobby group and also think that gun control is needed. Not everyone who owns guns is like the NRA, Fox News, or the extreme right wingers on this board.

not so crazy when gunbans start nosuch thing a a little banning take a lookie overseas can't evenown a stungun
for
protection gunowners might be
veryglad to have therepresentation the powervoice in the future

fife

peacefrompaul wrote:

fife wrote:

mysticweed wrote:

they have already lost control
of their fucking senses
blaming games and movies
and the fantasy that arming slaves could have prevented slavery
come on

i love that the nra blames video games and then release their own video game. Just makes no sense

The one for 4 year olds and up?

The NRA is fucking ridiculous

I am so upset about this, I guess my 3 year old nephew is not as important as a 4 year old using their Obama commercial. :?

fife

USARAY wrote:

Better Dan wrote:

81 wrote:

NRA doesn't control squat. American's control it. and when you consider that 45% of american's live in a home with a fire arm, i don't see them going away any time soon.

Just because people own fire arms doesn't mean they support the NRA. Several of my coworkers own multiple guns, think the NRA is a crazy lobby group and also think that gun control is needed. Not everyone who owns guns is like the NRA, Fox News, or the extreme right wingers on this board.

not so crazy when gunbans start nosuch thing a a little banning take a lookie overseas can't evenown a stungun
for
protection gunowners might be
veryglad to have therepresentation the powervoice in the future

sorry usaray, but I am having a hard time reading your post, can you restate what you just wrote.

JonnyPistachio

Sorry, I was so annoyed when I saw this, I have to post it twice:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

I was just thinking about how low the NRA is going...

There is an NRA video that injects Obama's daughters into the debate... “Are the president’s kids more important than yours?” the video asks. “Then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school?”

How pathetic.

Makes me wonder if Obama's girls hear about this kind of thing and get scared at all. I cant believe the NRA would use them like that to try to prove a point. A terrible point too. :?

dimitrispearljam

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Sorry, I was so annoyed when I saw this, I have to post it twice:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

I was just thinking about how low the NRA is going...

There is an NRA video that injects Obama's daughters into the debate... “Are the president’s kids more important than yours?” the video asks. “Then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school?”

How pathetic.

Makes me wonder if Obama's girls hear about this kind of thing and get scared at all. I cant believe the NRA would use them like that to try to prove a point. A terrible point too. :?

lame...those people are just rasist

peacefrompaul

dimitrispearljam wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Sorry, I was so annoyed when I saw this, I have to post it twice:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

I was just thinking about how low the NRA is going...

There is an NRA video that injects Obama's daughters into the debate... “Are the president’s kids more important than yours?” the video asks. “Then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school?”

How pathetic.

Makes me wonder if Obama's girls hear about this kind of thing and get scared at all. I cant believe the NRA would use them like that to try to prove a point. A terrible point too. :?

lame...those people are just rasist

I fail to see the racism.

dimitrispearljam

peacefrompaul wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

lame...those people are just rasist

I fail to see the racism.

im not

peacefrompaul

dimitrispearljam wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

lame...those people are just rasist

I fail to see the racism.

im not

Because his daughters are black that makes it racist?

They never once mentioned the color of their skin

fife

peacefrompaul wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Sorry, I was so annoyed when I saw this, I have to post it twice:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

I was just thinking about how low the NRA is going...

There is an NRA video that injects Obama's daughters into the debate... “Are the president’s kids more important than yours?” the video asks. “Then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school?”

How pathetic.

Makes me wonder if Obama's girls hear about this kind of thing and get scared at all. I cant believe the NRA would use them like that to try to prove a point. A terrible point too. :?

lame...those people are just rasist

I fail to see the racism.[/quote]

I agree Paul there really is no racism there. I do however agree that naming any child in a video is not responsible and should not be allowed.

Just another question that I have asked many times. in the 2nd amendment is states that "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.[8]" I am interested in the words "shall not be infringed." today we have laws that say who can buy guns and who can't i.e ex-cons can't legally get a gun. is that not an infringement?

USARAY

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Sorry, I was so annoyed when I saw this, I have to post it twice:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

I was just thinking about how low the NRA is going...

There is an NRA video that injects Obama's daughters into the debate... “Are the president’s kids more important than yours?” the video asks. “Then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school?”

How pathetic.

Makes me wonder if Obama's girls hear about this kind of thing and get scared at all. I cant believe the NRA would use them like that to try to prove a point. A terrible point too. :?

why won't he protectour schoolchildren ask for copsin schools
heis a
hypocritepasses a law for his lifetime armedprotection and wants to banguns wtf

JonnyPistachio

peacefrompaul wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

lame...those people are just rasist

I fail to see the racism.

Its not racism..I think Dimitris translated a little off... its about the fact that they would use Obama's children to make a point. Any person who is the president of the USA and their family will always require protection to the utmost degree. Comparing Obama's kids security needs to the average american is simply idiotic, and anyone who falls for this stupid stunt should have their heads examined.

jamburger

USARAY wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Sorry, I was so annoyed when I saw this, I have to post it twice:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

I was just thinking about how low the NRA is going...

There is an NRA video that injects Obama's daughters into the debate... “Are the president’s kids more important than yours?” the video asks. “Then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school?”

How pathetic.

Makes me wonder if Obama's girls hear about this kind of thing and get scared at all. I cant believe the NRA would use them like that to try to prove a point. A terrible point too. :?

why won't he protectour schoolchildren ask for copsin schools
heis a
hypocritepasses a law for his lifetime armedprotection and wants to banguns wtf

That law was passed over a hundred years ago... http://www.secretservice.gov/protection.shtml

dimitrispearljam

JonnyPistachio wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

lame...those people are just rasist

I fail to see the racism.

Its not racism..I think Dimitris translated a little off... its about the fact that they would use Obama's children to make a point. Any person who is the president of the USA and their family will always require protection to the utmost degree. Comparing Obama's kids security needs to the average american is simply idiotic, and anyone who falls for this stupid stunt should have their heads examined.

yes..not black - white rasism..
use president kids to make a point the same time we all know that any president at any country families are targets cos for sure have more enemies than any other citizen of the country

Better Dan

What is wrong with universal background checks? Can anyone tell me why that is a bad thing or are people just We also had an assualt weapons ban at one time so why not go back to that? Because gun manufacturers won't sell as many weapons. As a result, their lobby group the NRA is trying to scare gun owners into thinking the gov'munt is trying to take ALL their guns away and repeal the 2nd ammendment. :fp:

peacefrompaul

dimitrispearljam wrote:

yes..not black - white rasism..
use president kids to make a point the same time we all know that any president at any country families are targets cos for sure have more enemies than any other citizen of the country

So, scapegoating?

Better Dan

USARAY wrote:

heis a
hypocritepasses a law for his lifetime armedprotection and wants to banguns wtf

You fell for the NRA propaganda huh? He is a public figure and there are people out there who hate him and want to harm him and his family. As in specifically target. Also, as someone psioted, that is the SS's job. :fp:

USARAY

jamburger wrote:

USARAY wrote:

why won't he protectour schoolchildren ask for copsin schools
heis a
hypocritepasses a law for his lifetime armedprotection and wants to banguns wtf

That law was passed over a hundred years ago... http://www.secretservice.gov/protection.shtml

he signed therevise this past Decemberjust saying soagainst guns live by it then

fife

USARAY wrote:

jamburger wrote:

USARAY wrote:

why won't he protectour schoolchildren ask for copsin schools
heis a
hypocritepasses a law for his lifetime armedprotection and wants to banguns wtf

That law was passed over a hundred years ago... http://www.secretservice.gov/protection.shtml

he signed therevise this past Decemberjust saying soagainst guns live by it then

what? please elaborate?

USARAY

Better Dan wrote:

USARAY wrote:

heis a
hypocritepasses a law for his lifetime armedprotection and wants to banguns wtf

You fell for the NRA propaganda huh? He is a public figure and there are people out there who hate him and want to harm him and his family. As in specifically target. Also, as someone psioted, that is the SS's job. :fp:

of course there areas all Presidentsbut why not protect our schoolchildren he's not looking for alternatives his
agenda is set gunbanning but he himself and hiswill be protected

fife

USARAY wrote:

Better Dan wrote:

USARAY wrote:

heis a
hypocritepasses a law for his lifetime armedprotection and wants to banguns wtf

You fell for the NRA propaganda huh? He is a public figure and there are people out there who hate him and want to harm him and his family. As in specifically target. Also, as someone psioted, that is the SS's job. :fp:

of course there areas all Presidentsbut why not protect our schoolchildren he's not looking for alternatives his
agenda is set gunbanning but he himself and hiswill be protected

so using this logic, Republican are also hypocritical since they have health care provided by the government but don't want citizens to have that.

again no where does the president ever talk about banning all guns but you keep saying that.