this was a brilliant thread love it.... how are people on welfare scary and why should they be shamed? if a guy who was my neighbor has an arsenal of weapons next door I would want to know so I could move... who knows what would happen if he/she had a bad day...
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this was a brilliant thread love it.... how are people on welfare scary and why should they be shamed? if a guy who was my neighbor has an arsenal of weapons next door I would want to know so I could move... who knows what would happen if he/she had a bad day...
this was a brilliant thread love it.... how are people on welfare scary and why should they be shamed? if a guy who was my neighbor has an arsenal of weapons next door I would want to know so I could move... who knows what would happen if he/she had a bad day...
Would you feel ashamed if you were on welfare and it was public knowledge?
Would you want people to know you are poor and struggling?
Would you be able to look anybody in the eye?
Do you think people on welfare are happy about it?
Hi my names Tubbs and I'm on welfare nice to meet you.
I would feel shame.
I would feel like shit every day.
Given the amount of identity theft in this electronic age, I don't think anyone should be posting names and addresses of anyone else online. Only exceptions being pedophiles and the Dutch. (Small hands, smell like cheese.)
I don't believe that you should be posting the names and addresses of welfare recipients online, just as I think that it was inappropriate for that google map of registered gun owners to be posted for public viewing. That being said, I'm far more terrified of a man with a gun than I am of a man with a welfare cheque and America has both in spades. Far too many law abiding gun owners are simply criminals in waiting.
Wow! You can say that about anyone though. There are also many law abiding gun owners who never become criminals.
Certainly that can be said about anybody, but a man armed with a gun is far more dangerous than a person who is not.
OP,
I don't like the way people who aren't poor try to BULLY and mistreat poor people! It's probably difficult enough to be struggling to buy food without other people trying to pile extra shame on top! As if everyone who is poor is BAD or unworthy somehow.
OP,
I don't like the way people who aren't poor try to BULLY and mistreat poor people! It's probably difficult enough to be struggling to buy food without other people trying to pile extra shame on top! As if everyone who is poor is BAD or unworthy somehow.
This idea is very hard-hearted and unkind.
As I said, I don't think any names should be posted, but I don't like this bleeding heart stuff either. A little shame wouldn't hurt some folks. (And by some I mean some, not all, so don't take this the way you'd like to).
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
Given the amount of identity theft in this electronic age, I don't think anyone should be posting names and addresses of anyone else online. Only exceptions being pedophiles and the Dutch. (Small hands, smell like cheese.)
Hey, don't insult the Dutch! They are one of the tallest people on the planet...
To the OP: I really don't see the connection between someone receiving a welfare check and someone having an arsenenal in their bedroom. The first is a tragedy, the other one is dangerous. Or are you implying that people on welfare are a "danger"? In that sense, I think you are strecthing and holding a very narrow minded view of people on welfare.
I btw rather fight with someone holding a welfare check than someone with a semi-automatic...
So, I don't see the connection. In the same way I don't see the connection between pedophiles and Dutch people, but hey, that is just me...
To the OP: I really don't see the connection between someone receiving a welfare check and someone having an arsenenal in their bedroom. The first is a tragedy, ...
How is welfare a tragedy? I don't get that angle. We should pity the poor? Other than certain disabilities (both mental and physical) what person cannot keep a job that would keep them in a decent living?
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
To the OP: I really don't see the connection between someone receiving a welfare check and someone having an arsenenal in their bedroom. The first is a tragedy, ...
How is welfare a tragedy? I don't get that angle. We should pity the poor? Other than certain disabilities (both mental and physical) what person cannot keep a job that would keep them in a decent living?
Well, I'm not sure if you read the news lately but there is this thing - for five years now - called an "economic crisis". People lose their jobs even if they a) want to keep it, b) have the talents to keep it and c) are well equiped to keep it, but they can't for the business they work for went bankrupt. Enhances the words "recession", "economic crisis" and "rise in unemployment". Or are you one of those people who believes that all people on welfare are in welfare because they choose to be there? In that case, check the facts.
Welfare is a personal tragedy for everyone who has a family, a mortgage and just try to make a day-to-day living. Comparing welfare with guns is plain silly and, to be honest, narrow minded.
To the OP: I really don't see the connection between someone receiving a welfare check and someone having an arsenenal in their bedroom. The first is a tragedy, ...
How is welfare a tragedy? I don't get that angle. We should pity the poor? Other than certain disabilities (both mental and physical) what person cannot keep a job that would keep them in a decent living?
Well, I'm not sure if you read the news lately but there is this thing - for five years now - called an "economic crisis". People lose their jobs even if they a) want to keep it, b) have the talents to keep it and c) are well equiped to keep it, but they can't for the business they work for went bankrupt. Enhances the words "recession", "economic crisis" and "rise in unemployment". Or are you one of those people who believes that all people on welfare are in welfare because they choose to be there? In that case, check the facts.
Welfare is a personal tragedy for everyone who has a family, a mortgage and just try to make a day-to-day living. Comparing welfare with guns is plain silly and, to be honest, narrow minded.
Oh, no kidding. I'm not a gun advocate. I'm not a gun "opponent" or whatever folks want to call it. I would never own a gun. I think they are silly. But, I do believe in the Constitution, its Amendments, its processees and freedom. But, comparing the 2 is outlandish.
That being said - Hurricane Sandy was a tragedy. Newtown was a tragedy. Having to pick yourself up off the mat while terrible is not a tragedy. It's what you make of it. Can you TURN it into a tragedy? I guess so. But, Welfare is a safety net meant to help people get back on their feet (at least that was the initial intent). That is not a tragedy. If anything, it could be seen as a triumph. What it's turned into by individuals is up to them for a majority (again, of course, not ALL). But, I find it hard to say Welfare is a tragedy.
I see Help Wanteds all the time around me while folks collect 3 years of unemployment. It does make me scratch my head.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
Why can't it be 'Community Assistance' paid employment. A real job. People on welfare put 4 hours in daily in jobs designed at bettering their communities in one way or another?
Time and some support afforded to these employees to find an occupation they are suited or trained for.
Why can't it be 'Community Assistance' paid employment. A real job. People on welfare put 4 hours in daily in jobs designed at bettering their communities in one way or another?
Time and some support afforded to these employees to find an occupation they are suited or trained for.
This already is happening to different degrees, depending on the state, when someone is on cash public assistance (tanf).
To the OP: I really don't see the connection between someone receiving a welfare check and someone having an arsenenal in their bedroom. The first is a tragedy, ...
How is welfare a tragedy? I don't get that angle. We should pity the poor? Other than certain disabilities (both mental and physical) what person cannot keep a job that would keep them in a decent living?
So I guess you think either the 12 million or so unemployed don't really want to work, or that there's millions of job openings that aren't being filled because no one wants the job?
Fix the problem, don't lump all welfare recipients into the same bucket. This is asinine.
Let's put everyone's name, address, and how much they donated to charity last year out of the internet...just as absurd.
it wouldnt do any good, and the OP knew that...
This was a very, very feeble attempt to downplay the story about the news outlet that published gun owners names. To say that since someone published gun owners names, they should publish names of people on govt assistance, is very immature.
To the OP: I really don't see the connection between someone receiving a welfare check and someone having an arsenenal in their bedroom. The first is a tragedy, ...
How is welfare a tragedy? I don't get that angle. We should pity the poor? Other than certain disabilities (both mental and physical) what person cannot keep a job that would keep them in a decent living?
So I guess you think either the 12 million or so unemployed don't really want to work, or that there's millions of job openings that aren't being filled because no one wants the job?
Not 12 million, but yes, I think there are a lot of folks not making the effort. Dinkins-Giuliani. You can either rationalize or take a job you think is "beneath you." Extending unemployment was a mistake. They should also shut down the gov't when the time comes. As I said - I see plenty of job openings. Maybe, not enough. But, it would be amazing if you cut the baby from the teat what would happen.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
Good idea?
You could see which neighbors were on the dole and maybe help them?
Public info. I think a searchable database should be discussed.
EBT monies should be for staples.
cashing out at strip clubs from ebt cards, emoticon
It would serve no purpose besides giving certain people a chance to release some of that nasty, mean-spirited mirth they like to throw at people when they are less fortunate, and so they can try to tell other people what to with their own money.
(Seriously, this thread just makes you seem mean. I know what point you're trying to make, but you've failed).
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How have I failed if you know the point I am trying to make?
Law abiding citizens are being demonized for owning firearms. It's public info.
I'm sorry if I come off as mean, I surely don't want to look like a bad guy.
I'm here to help.
You are right, they shouldn;t list gun owners either. Although, I'm surprised that gun owner have a problem with it. They are the ones that say criminal would be less likely to steal, etc if they thought the other person had a gun. Well, now they have a database to show them which houses to hit and which to avoid.
So I guess you think either the 12 million or so unemployed don't really want to work, or that there's millions of job openings that aren't being filled because no one wants the job?
Not 12 million, but yes, I think there are a lot of folks not making the effort. Dinkins-Giuliani. You can either rationalize or take a job you think is "beneath you." Extending unemployment was a mistake. They should also shut down the gov't when the time comes. As I said - I see plenty of job openings. Maybe, not enough. But, it would be amazing if you cut the baby from the teat what would happen.
It's a mistake to draw conclusions based on what you "see". When there's a job opening in my office, there's over 200 qualified applicants. The job scene varies depending on the region.
But I see what you're getting at: Obama's done such a good job creating jobs, that unemployment and public assistance needs to be cut so those people will go out and fill those jobs.
When you say shut down the government, what do you mean exactly?
That being said - Hurricane Sandy was a tragedy. Newtown was a tragedy. Having to pick yourself up off the mat while terrible is not a tragedy. It's what you make of it. Can you TURN it into a tragedy? I guess so. But, Welfare is a safety net meant to help people get back on their feet (at least that was the initial intent). That is not a tragedy. If anything, it could be seen as a triumph. What it's turned into by individuals is up to them for a majority (again, of course, not ALL). But, I find it hard to say Welfare is a tragedy.
I see Help Wanteds all the time around me while folks collect 3 years of unemployment. It does make me scratch my head.
This is all semantics. To people who want to work and can't - and that is the majority NOT the minority - unemployment is def. a *personal* tragedy...
Actually I'm done with this. I've got better things to do. I'll NEVER give up what I own. I will also NEVER register. Deal with it.
Molon Labe.
Good to know, and should regulation and law come in that says you need to, and you persist in abstaining, that would make you a law breaker, or as some of you like to say, a bad guy. And if I have understood your previous posts correctly, your all for them having their weapons stripped away, and their rights too I might add.
When you say shut down the government, what do you mean exactly?
Good question. Bit of a non-sequitor - this was alluding to the debt ceiling talks. They need to go into (partial) shutdown (it's not really a shutdown, as essential services and the debt still get funded) to have real debate on what needs to be done and make some hard decisions.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
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Or if their child had a bad day...
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Would you feel ashamed if you were on welfare and it was public knowledge?
Would you want people to know you are poor and struggling?
Would you be able to look anybody in the eye?
Do you think people on welfare are happy about it?
Hi my names Tubbs and I'm on welfare nice to meet you.
I would feel shame.
I would feel like shit every day.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Certainly that can be said about anybody, but a man armed with a gun is far more dangerous than a person who is not.
I don't like the way people who aren't poor try to BULLY and mistreat poor people! It's probably difficult enough to be struggling to buy food without other people trying to pile extra shame on top! As if everyone who is poor is BAD or unworthy somehow.
This idea is very hard-hearted and unkind.
As I said, I don't think any names should be posted, but I don't like this bleeding heart stuff either. A little shame wouldn't hurt some folks. (And by some I mean some, not all, so don't take this the way you'd like to).
Hey, don't insult the Dutch! They are one of the tallest people on the planet...
Those wooden shoes on the other hand...
I btw rather fight with someone holding a welfare check than someone with a semi-automatic...
So, I don't see the connection. In the same way I don't see the connection between pedophiles and Dutch people, but hey, that is just me...
How is welfare a tragedy? I don't get that angle. We should pity the poor? Other than certain disabilities (both mental and physical) what person cannot keep a job that would keep them in a decent living?
Well, I'm not sure if you read the news lately but there is this thing - for five years now - called an "economic crisis". People lose their jobs even if they a) want to keep it, b) have the talents to keep it and c) are well equiped to keep it, but they can't for the business they work for went bankrupt. Enhances the words "recession", "economic crisis" and "rise in unemployment". Or are you one of those people who believes that all people on welfare are in welfare because they choose to be there? In that case, check the facts.
Welfare is a personal tragedy for everyone who has a family, a mortgage and just try to make a day-to-day living. Comparing welfare with guns is plain silly and, to be honest, narrow minded.
Oh, no kidding. I'm not a gun advocate. I'm not a gun "opponent" or whatever folks want to call it. I would never own a gun. I think they are silly. But, I do believe in the Constitution, its Amendments, its processees and freedom. But, comparing the 2 is outlandish.
That being said - Hurricane Sandy was a tragedy. Newtown was a tragedy. Having to pick yourself up off the mat while terrible is not a tragedy. It's what you make of it. Can you TURN it into a tragedy? I guess so. But, Welfare is a safety net meant to help people get back on their feet (at least that was the initial intent). That is not a tragedy. If anything, it could be seen as a triumph. What it's turned into by individuals is up to them for a majority (again, of course, not ALL). But, I find it hard to say Welfare is a tragedy.
I see Help Wanteds all the time around me while folks collect 3 years of unemployment. It does make me scratch my head.
Why can't it be 'Community Assistance' paid employment. A real job. People on welfare put 4 hours in daily in jobs designed at bettering their communities in one way or another?
Time and some support afforded to these employees to find an occupation they are suited or trained for.
This already is happening to different degrees, depending on the state, when someone is on cash public assistance (tanf).
So I guess you think either the 12 million or so unemployed don't really want to work, or that there's millions of job openings that aren't being filled because no one wants the job?
Fix the problem, don't lump all welfare recipients into the same bucket. This is asinine.
Let's put everyone's name, address, and how much they donated to charity last year out of the internet...just as absurd.
it wouldnt do any good, and the OP knew that...
This was a very, very feeble attempt to downplay the story about the news outlet that published gun owners names. To say that since someone published gun owners names, they should publish names of people on govt assistance, is very immature.
Not 12 million, but yes, I think there are a lot of folks not making the effort. Dinkins-Giuliani. You can either rationalize or take a job you think is "beneath you." Extending unemployment was a mistake. They should also shut down the gov't when the time comes. As I said - I see plenty of job openings. Maybe, not enough. But, it would be amazing if you cut the baby from the teat what would happen.
(Seriously, this thread just makes you seem mean. I know what point you're trying to make, but you've failed).
Law abiding citizens are being demonized for owning firearms. It's public info.
I'm sorry if I come off as mean, I surely don't want to look like a bad guy.
I'm here to help.
You are right, they shouldn;t list gun owners either. Although, I'm surprised that gun owner have a problem with it. They are the ones that say criminal would be less likely to steal, etc if they thought the other person had a gun. Well, now they have a database to show them which houses to hit and which to avoid.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
It's a mistake to draw conclusions based on what you "see". When there's a job opening in my office, there's over 200 qualified applicants. The job scene varies depending on the region.
But I see what you're getting at: Obama's done such a good job creating jobs, that unemployment and public assistance needs to be cut so those people will go out and fill those jobs.
When you say shut down the government, what do you mean exactly?
Well, if I go by your avatar, you are more a dangerous looking woman
This is all semantics. To people who want to work and can't - and that is the majority NOT the minority - unemployment is def. a *personal* tragedy...
Good to know, and should regulation and law come in that says you need to, and you persist in abstaining, that would make you a law breaker, or as some of you like to say, a bad guy. And if I have understood your previous posts correctly, your all for them having their weapons stripped away, and their rights too I might add.
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Good question. Bit of a non-sequitor - this was alluding to the debt ceiling talks. They need to go into (partial) shutdown (it's not really a shutdown, as essential services and the debt still get funded) to have real debate on what needs to be done and make some hard decisions.