You keep comparing cars and booze to guns and it is one of the weakest arguments I have heard from the pro-gun crowd. Of those three only guns are designed to kill. The other two may, but that is far from their purpose. I understand the point you are trying to make but it is a really poor one.
Guns are designed to hunt and protect. It's not weak at all. If anything alcohol has absolutely no benefit to society but impair people's judgment.
You keep comparing cars and booze to guns and it is one of the weakest arguments I have heard from the pro-gun crowd. Of those three only guns are designed to kill. The other two may, but that is far from their purpose. I understand the point you are trying to make but it is a really poor one.
Guns are designed to hunt and protect. It's not weak at all. If anything alcohol has absolutely no benefit to society but impair people's judgment.
No way, Booze helps men and woman fuck after the bar.
Guns are designed to hunt and protect. It's not weak at all. If anything alcohol has absolutely no benefit to society but impair people's judgment.
so... how many songs do you reckon musicians we listen to have written whilst drunk??? how many words do you think someone like hemingway or kerouac wrote whilst under the influence??? to say alcohol has no benefit to society is naive, not to mention foolish and without foundation.
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You keep comparing cars and booze to guns and it is one of the weakest arguments I have heard from the pro-gun crowd. Of those three only guns are designed to kill. The other two may, but that is far from their purpose. I understand the point you are trying to make but it is a really poor one.
Guns are designed to hunt and protect. It's not weak at all. If anything alcohol has absolutely no benefit to society but impair people's judgment.
You claimed in another thread a few weeks ago that an air force was intended to kill. You were of course wrong in that claim, but how does that logic line up with saying that guns are designed to hunt and protect? Planes are intended to kill but guns aren't? Guns are intended to kill, plain and simple. They are designed for that specific purpose.
Booze and cars are just a red herring and have been since they were introduced to the argument.
Planes are intended to kill but guns aren't? Guns are intended to kill, plain and simple. They are designed for that specific purpose.
Booze and cars are just a red herring and have been since they were introduced to the argument.
i can assure u..planes are intended to kill for sure...and Aircraft are guns for sure..they designed to destoy and kill..
and the drinks and cars is used here as an argument only cos there are nt any others to prove the stupidity that guns are good thing..
just throw cars ,drinks out there just to change the subject,just to prove nothing..
cos guns...
wait for it..
A gun is a weapon,a weapon, arm, or armament is a tool, device, or instrument used in order to inflict damage or harm to enemies or other living beings, structures, or systems.
i love when i post perfect English!
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
oh, and by the way.....if you insist on this ridiculous notion of guns and alcohol, alcohol has regulations too. age restrictions, alcohol by volume restrictions, time and day of purchase, etc.
so if we restrict the alcohol by volume, then it can be surmised it would make sense to restrict ammunition/gun by power/capability.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
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Actually... I would think you would approve of this. The chip can contain information such as Legal Citizenship Status, Social Services Aid, Criminal records and convictions and mental health/stability as well as GPS transponders.
This will solve all of your problems with:
Immigration:
People who do not possess the chip will...
Not be able to work.
Not be able purchase any goods or services.
Not be able to open a bank account.
Not be able to cash a check.
Not be able to apply for/receive a drivers license.
Not be able to apply for/receive State or Federally funded assistance.
Not be able to get State or Federally funded hospital services.
Not be able to enroll in public education.
Welfare:
People with a chip will be easily identifiable when they purchase goods or services. That way, when a Welfare recipient is buying champagne and lobster and cigarettes and booze, everyone in the store will be notified.
Crime:
An alarm is set off when a two-time offender walks into a place of business.
An alarm is set off when a documented gang member walks into a place of business.
People with Criminal records, Crazy and mentally ill people can be scanned when they try to buy a gun.
Cars can be outfitted with kill switches so people with drunk driving arrests and/or convictions cannot drive.
Police can monitor sexual offenders and predators with the GPS locator.
This sounds like the America you dream of... where only the 'good' people get to participate... and all of those of us you hate, will be ostracized from your perfect society.
All you would need to do after that would be to overturn Roe v. Wade and convict every woman who has an abortion as a pre-meditated murderer and execute them.
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Hail, Hail!!!
And my weapons have never imposed on your rights or your life.
I have been threatened with a gun - not your gun but a gun. That infringed on my rights and my life.
I've never been opposed to people owning guns but to think that large magazines and clips gained without background checks is ok, well, that does infringe on my rights. How can you (the collective you) say that any weapon obtained without a background check is acceptable? That is unconstitutional.
Where have I said that I'm opposed to background checks? I haven't.
maybe I am wrong but are you not the same person who posted before something about "not be infringed"? are background check not an infringement?
Guns are designed to hunt and protect. It's not weak at all. If anything alcohol has absolutely no benefit to society but impair people's judgment.
so... how many songs do you reckon musicians we listen to have written whilst drunk??? how many words do you think someone like hemingway or kerouac wrote whilst under the influence??? to say alcohol has no benefit to society is naive, not to mention foolish and without foundation.
Alcohol for art....guess I should use that one if I'm ever pulled over while drunk. :?
" This intriguing book is effectively a biography of Ernest Hemingway, told through his extensive collection of shotguns, rifles and pistols. Unsurprisingly for a man who served in the First World War and was an embedded reporter during the Second World War, Hemingway's life was one of excitement and action. The tree authors reveal Hemingway owned many guns, which in many ways defined his life and death. For example, an early anecdote informs the reader Hemingway was taught to shoot when he was just two-and-a-half years old, and was able to shot a pistol by the time he was four. Though written for the American market, those with an interest in firearms of all types and the man himself will find much of interest within these 184 pages. There are over 100 0photographs of Hemingway, his family and his collection from various archives, including some particularly hair-raising photographs of the great author shooting cigarettes from his associates' mouths and hands with rifles. "
You keep comparing cars and booze to guns and it is one of the weakest arguments I have heard from the pro-gun crowd. Of those three only guns are designed to kill. The other two may, but that is far from their purpose. I understand the point you are trying to make but it is a really poor one.
Guns are designed to hunt and protect. It's not weak at all. If anything alcohol has absolutely no benefit to society but impair people's judgment.
You claimed in another thread a few weeks ago that an air force was intended to kill. You were of course wrong in that claim, but how does that logic line up with saying that guns are designed to hunt and protect? Planes are intended to kill but guns aren't? Guns are intended to kill, plain and simple. They are designed for that specific purpose.
Booze and cars are just a red herring and have been since they were introduced to the argument.
What's the best way to protect? With the ability to kill. If that threat is not there the ability to protect is gone.
Guns are designed to hunt and protect. It's not weak at all. If anything alcohol has absolutely no benefit to society but impair people's judgment.
so... how many songs do you reckon musicians we listen to have written whilst drunk??? how many words do you think someone like hemingway or kerouac wrote whilst under the influence??? to say alcohol has no benefit to society is naive, not to mention foolish and without foundation.
Alcohol for art....guess I should use that one if I'm ever pulled over while drunk. :?
" This intriguing book is effectively a biography of Ernest Hemingway, told through his extensive collection of shotguns, rifles and pistols. Unsurprisingly for a man who served in the First World War and was an embedded reporter during the Second World War, Hemingway's life was one of excitement and action. The tree authors reveal Hemingway owned many guns, which in many ways defined his life and death. For example, an early anecdote informs the reader Hemingway was taught to shoot when he was just two-and-a-half years old, and was able to shot a pistol by the time he was four. Though written for the American market, those with an interest in firearms of all types and the man himself will find much of interest within these 184 pages. There are over 100 0photographs of Hemingway, his family and his collection from various archives, including some particularly hair-raising photographs of the great author shooting cigarettes from his associates' mouths and hands with rifles. "
And he loved guns so much that he used one to end his own life.
Dudeman; thanks for the compliment.
When time is spent here, to read and learn, and then effort is taken to write posts, I see that most of us put thought into our posts as well so I for one, appreciate it when another takes time to read mine and respond. Compliments are a reward I guess; let us know our thoughts were understood. Thank you.
This particular OP is about monitoring our every move with every techno-gadget out there. If anyone on this train has read any part of the http://www.dancingpartners.info series then you would know how important this topic is to me. So important, I've committed, I'm driven, to give this long-shot writing endeavor every chance I can think of in order to get us, the mass, to learn how to chart a saner course for the future.
In this, one of my bright ideas has been to spend time in forums so it really irks me when a great OP gets hijacked.
GUN CONTROL. Since this topic is so prevalent in many threads right now, (and this in-itself is good as it shows where our passions currently lie) I'm simply asking this; please dedicate Gun Control to ONE thread where a gentleman's agreement is reached -- refrain from corrupting all other threads with this topic. Thank you.
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
That would definitely stop crime. Prohibition worked once so let's do it again. And I love the assumptions that people have that gun ownership isn't already regulated. Comical.
So now you're gonna compare ownership of semi-automatic weapons with the drinking of alcohol?
Seriously pal, if you really do feel so passionately about allowing semi-automatic weapons on the streets of the U.S, and aren't simply trolling, then why don't you put your money where your mouth is and join a local militia?
Don't have to join a militia. I support people's rights in this country. If they want to join a militia go ahead.
I support legal citizens rights, not criminals rights. If it were up to me if someone commits a crime with an illegal firearm, they face the death penalty. I'd say that would curb gun violence a hell of a lot more than worrying about the people who choose to use rifles for protection or sport.
What if someone commits crime with a legal firearm? Or an illegal firearm that was at one point legal?
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haha..you having a great way to say and spot things..love it..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
What if someone commits crime with a legal firearm? Or an illegal firearm that was at one point legal?
This is part of the trick gun advocates are trying to pull. My gun is legal, so if I shoot you with it then it is a crime using a legal gun. BUT...that is the only scenario in which a crime can be committed by a legal gun. If you take my gun away and shoot me, that is an illegal gun since you did not have a permit for it. If I have house guests with children, and one finds the key to my arms locker and the guns within, and then shoots the other, that too is no longer a legal gun. There is a lot of cooking the numbers going on regarding what is and is not a legal gun.
What if someone commits crime with a legal firearm? Or an illegal firearm that was at one point legal?
This is part of the trick gun advocates are trying to pull. My gun is legal, so if I shoot you with it then it is a crime using a legal gun. BUT...that is the only scenario in which a crime can be committed by a legal gun. If you take my gun away and shoot me, that is an illegal gun since you did not have a permit for it. If I have house guests with children, and one finds the key to my arms locker and the guns within, and then shoots the other, that too is no longer a legal gun. There is a lot of cooking the numbers going on regarding what is and is not a legal gun.
LIBERTY!
haha../i could drink beers with you,all day long..
no worries,,we will take a cab to go back home....no ones driving..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
What if someone commits crime with a legal firearm? Or an illegal firearm that was at one point legal?
This is part of the trick gun advocates are trying to pull. My gun is legal, so if I shoot you with it then it is a crime using a legal gun. BUT...that is the only scenario in which a crime can be committed by a legal gun. If you take my gun away and shoot me, that is an illegal gun since you did not have a permit for it. If I have house guests with children, and one finds the key to my arms locker and the guns within, and then shoots the other, that too is no longer a legal gun. There is a lot of cooking the numbers going on regarding what is and is not a legal gun.
LIBERTY!
I guess that person could always steal someone's booze and their car as well. I guess they could take a knife out of someone's kitchen and slash someone's throat with is as well. Hell they could take the can of gas someone has for their mower and set the entire family on fire to. I guess all of these things need to be banned and further restricted from the innocent because of the criminals. Makes sense.
What if someone commits crime with a legal firearm? Or an illegal firearm that was at one point legal?
This is part of the trick gun advocates are trying to pull. My gun is legal, so if I shoot you with it then it is a crime using a legal gun. BUT...that is the only scenario in which a crime can be committed by a legal gun. If you take my gun away and shoot me, that is an illegal gun since you did not have a permit for it. If I have house guests with children, and one finds the key to my arms locker and the guns within, and then shoots the other, that too is no longer a legal gun. There is a lot of cooking the numbers going on regarding what is and is not a legal gun.
LIBERTY!
haha../i could drink beers with you,all day long..
no worries,,we will take a cab to go back home....no ones driving..
But just in case you did choose to drive I think we need to take away your booze and car. :roll:
I guess that person could always steal someone's booze and their car as well. I guess they could take a knife out of someone's kitchen and slash someone's throat with is as well. Hell they could take the can of gas someone has for their mower and set the entire family on fire to. I guess all of these things need to be banned and further restricted from the innocent because of the criminals. Makes sense.
all of those things you mentioned have a use in daily life.
guns don't.
pretty.
fucking.
simple.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
I guess that person could always steal someone's booze and their car as well. I guess they could take a knife out of someone's kitchen and slash someone's throat with is as well. Hell they could take the can of gas someone has for their mower and set the entire family on fire to. I guess all of these things need to be banned and further restricted from the innocent because of the criminals. Makes sense.
all of those things you mentioned have a use in daily life.
all of those things you mentioned have a use in daily life.
guns don't.
pretty.
fucking.
simple.
waisting.
your.
time.
simple.
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Guns are designed to hunt and protect. It's not weak at all. If anything alcohol has absolutely no benefit to society but impair people's judgment.
so... how many songs do you reckon musicians we listen to have written whilst drunk??? how many words do you think someone like hemingway or kerouac wrote whilst under the influence??? to say alcohol has no benefit to society is naive, not to mention foolish and without foundation.
Alcohol for art....guess I should use that one if I'm ever pulled over while drunk. :?
" This intriguing book is effectively a biography of Ernest Hemingway, told through his extensive collection of shotguns, rifles and pistols. Unsurprisingly for a man who served in the First World War and was an embedded reporter during the Second World War, Hemingway's life was one of excitement and action. The tree authors reveal Hemingway owned many guns, which in many ways defined his life and death. For example, an early anecdote informs the reader Hemingway was taught to shoot when he was just two-and-a-half years old, and was able to shot a pistol by the time he was four. Though written for the American market, those with an interest in firearms of all types and the man himself will find much of interest within these 184 pages. There are over 100 0photographs of Hemingway, his family and his collection from various archives, including some particularly hair-raising photographs of the great author shooting cigarettes from his associates' mouths and hands with rifles. "
yes im aware hemingway was a gun enthusiast.. afterall he ended his life thusly. tho what that has to do with alcohol induced 'inspiration' is beyond me.. care to enlighten me?
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Guns are designed to hunt and protect. It's not weak at all. If anything alcohol has absolutely no benefit to society but impair people's judgment.
No way, Booze helps men and woman fuck after the bar.
so... how many songs do you reckon musicians we listen to have written whilst drunk??? how many words do you think someone like hemingway or kerouac wrote whilst under the influence??? to say alcohol has no benefit to society is naive, not to mention foolish and without foundation.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
You claimed in another thread a few weeks ago that an air force was intended to kill. You were of course wrong in that claim, but how does that logic line up with saying that guns are designed to hunt and protect? Planes are intended to kill but guns aren't? Guns are intended to kill, plain and simple. They are designed for that specific purpose.
Booze and cars are just a red herring and have been since they were introduced to the argument.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
and the drinks and cars is used here as an argument only cos there are nt any others to prove the stupidity that guns are good thing..
just throw cars ,drinks out there just to change the subject,just to prove nothing..
cos guns...
wait for it..
A gun is a weapon,a weapon, arm, or armament is a tool, device, or instrument used in order to inflict damage or harm to enemies or other living beings, structures, or systems.
i love when i post perfect English!
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
so if we restrict the alcohol by volume, then it can be surmised it would make sense to restrict ammunition/gun by power/capability.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Actually... I would think you would approve of this. The chip can contain information such as Legal Citizenship Status, Social Services Aid, Criminal records and convictions and mental health/stability as well as GPS transponders.
This will solve all of your problems with:
Immigration:
People who do not possess the chip will...
Not be able to work.
Not be able purchase any goods or services.
Not be able to open a bank account.
Not be able to cash a check.
Not be able to apply for/receive a drivers license.
Not be able to apply for/receive State or Federally funded assistance.
Not be able to get State or Federally funded hospital services.
Not be able to enroll in public education.
Welfare:
People with a chip will be easily identifiable when they purchase goods or services. That way, when a Welfare recipient is buying champagne and lobster and cigarettes and booze, everyone in the store will be notified.
Crime:
An alarm is set off when a two-time offender walks into a place of business.
An alarm is set off when a documented gang member walks into a place of business.
People with Criminal records, Crazy and mentally ill people can be scanned when they try to buy a gun.
Cars can be outfitted with kill switches so people with drunk driving arrests and/or convictions cannot drive.
Police can monitor sexual offenders and predators with the GPS locator.
This sounds like the America you dream of... where only the 'good' people get to participate... and all of those of us you hate, will be ostracized from your perfect society.
All you would need to do after that would be to overturn Roe v. Wade and convict every woman who has an abortion as a pre-meditated murderer and execute them.
Hail, Hail!!!
maybe I am wrong but are you not the same person who posted before something about "not be infringed"? are background check not an infringement?
Alcohol for art....guess I should use that one if I'm ever pulled over while drunk. :?
BTW...Hemingway was an avid gun enthusiast.
http://www.amazon.com/Hemingways-Guns-S ... 0892727209
" This intriguing book is effectively a biography of Ernest Hemingway, told through his extensive collection of shotguns, rifles and pistols. Unsurprisingly for a man who served in the First World War and was an embedded reporter during the Second World War, Hemingway's life was one of excitement and action. The tree authors reveal Hemingway owned many guns, which in many ways defined his life and death. For example, an early anecdote informs the reader Hemingway was taught to shoot when he was just two-and-a-half years old, and was able to shot a pistol by the time he was four. Though written for the American market, those with an interest in firearms of all types and the man himself will find much of interest within these 184 pages. There are over 100 0photographs of Hemingway, his family and his collection from various archives, including some particularly hair-raising photographs of the great author shooting cigarettes from his associates' mouths and hands with rifles. "
What's the best way to protect? With the ability to kill. If that threat is not there the ability to protect is gone.
So guns are designed to kill, not protect.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
And he loved guns so much that he used one to end his own life.
No, guns ae designed to hunt and protect.
Would you prefer he used a knife instead?
Hunting and protecting is the intent of the user. The gun is designed to kill.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
When time is spent here, to read and learn, and then effort is taken to write posts, I see that most of us put thought into our posts as well so I for one, appreciate it when another takes time to read mine and respond. Compliments are a reward I guess; let us know our thoughts were understood. Thank you.
This particular OP is about monitoring our every move with every techno-gadget out there. If anyone on this train has read any part of the http://www.dancingpartners.info series then you would know how important this topic is to me. So important, I've committed, I'm driven, to give this long-shot writing endeavor every chance I can think of in order to get us, the mass, to learn how to chart a saner course for the future.
In this, one of my bright ideas has been to spend time in forums so it really irks me when a great OP gets hijacked.
GUN CONTROL. Since this topic is so prevalent in many threads right now, (and this in-itself is good as it shows where our passions currently lie) I'm simply asking this; please dedicate Gun Control to ONE thread where a gentleman's agreement is reached -- refrain from corrupting all other threads with this topic. Thank you.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
This is part of the trick gun advocates are trying to pull. My gun is legal, so if I shoot you with it then it is a crime using a legal gun. BUT...that is the only scenario in which a crime can be committed by a legal gun. If you take my gun away and shoot me, that is an illegal gun since you did not have a permit for it. If I have house guests with children, and one finds the key to my arms locker and the guns within, and then shoots the other, that too is no longer a legal gun. There is a lot of cooking the numbers going on regarding what is and is not a legal gun.
LIBERTY!
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
no worries,,we will take a cab to go back home....no ones driving..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I guess that person could always steal someone's booze and their car as well. I guess they could take a knife out of someone's kitchen and slash someone's throat with is as well. Hell they could take the can of gas someone has for their mower and set the entire family on fire to. I guess all of these things need to be banned and further restricted from the innocent because of the criminals. Makes sense.
But just in case you did choose to drive I think we need to take away your booze and car. :roll:
all of those things you mentioned have a use in daily life.
guns don't.
pretty.
fucking.
simple.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Sure they do. To protect, hunt and for sport.
waisting.
your.
time.
simple.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
You're right he is wasting his time.
yes im aware hemingway was a gun enthusiast.. afterall he ended his life thusly. tho what that has to do with alcohol induced 'inspiration' is beyond me.. care to enlighten me?
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say