My Solution

DS1119

Everyone is imbedded with a microchip. Every purchase you make gets put into a database that's sortable and searchable by anyone. Also, the chip can be tracked using GPS. A crime happens...the police can see what people were near the area of the crime...what items they own or have purchased but more importantly where they are now. In the microchip could be such info as BAC and drug levels to. I think such close monitoring of legal citizens would only benefit society and guard against the few who break the laws. It's a small price to pay of our individual freedoms but at the same time very necessary.

catefrances

pardon my french but.... fuck that big brother.

Prince Of Dorkness

Yes.

That's the only other option to handing out AK47s to homeless marines with PTSD and bipolar disorder.

Choose wisely.

Last-12-Exit

One positive, I'd almost never lose my keys again.

push me and i will resist

DS1119 wrote:

Everyone is imbedded with a microchip. Every purchase you make gets put into a database that's sortable and searchable by anyone. Also, the chip can be tracked using GPS. A crime happens...the police can see what people were near the area of the crime...what items they own or have purchased but more importantly where they are now. In the microchip could be such info as BAC and drug levels to. I think such close monitoring of legal citizens would only benefit society and guard against the few who break the laws. It's a small price to pay of our individual freedoms but at the same time very necessary.

This is a case where we need a different font or something to mark sarcasm, I can't be sure if you're being serious.
If you are serious then I say Fuck that Shit!
Worst idea ever.

DS1119

push me and i will resist wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Everyone is imbedded with a microchip. Every purchase you make gets put into a database that's sortable and searchable by anyone. Also, the chip can be tracked using GPS. A crime happens...the police can see what people were near the area of the crime...what items they own or have purchased but more importantly where they are now. In the microchip could be such info as BAC and drug levels to. I think such close monitoring of legal citizens would only benefit society and guard against the few who break the laws. It's a small price to pay of our individual freedoms but at the same time very necessary.

This is a case where we need a different font or something to mark sarcasm, I can't be sure if you're being serious.
If you are serious then I say Fuck that Shit!
Worst idea ever.

No sarcasm at all. Our purchases are already tracked when a consumer uses one of a stores "smart shoppers" cards or whatever they want to call it at your neighborhood store. If someone uses a credit or debit card....there's already a record there too. If the legal citizen does nothing wrong they have nothing to fear. Cut and dried in my opinion. Make it all public knowledge. Why not? Hook in those BAC and drug monitors along with the record if they purchased a gun...crime problem solved.

push me and i will resist

DS1119 wrote:

push me and i will resist wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Everyone is imbedded with a microchip. Every purchase you make gets put into a database that's sortable and searchable by anyone. Also, the chip can be tracked using GPS. A crime happens...the police can see what people were near the area of the crime...what items they own or have purchased but more importantly where they are now. In the microchip could be such info as BAC and drug levels to. I think such close monitoring of legal citizens would only benefit society and guard against the few who break the laws. It's a small price to pay of our individual freedoms but at the same time very necessary.

This is a case where we need a different font or something to mark sarcasm, I can't be sure if you're being serious.
If you are serious then I say Fuck that Shit!
Worst idea ever.

No sarcasm at all. Our purchases are already tracked when a consumer uses one of a stores "smart shoppers" cards or whatever they want to call it at your neighborhood store. If someone uses a credit or debit card....there's already a record there too. If the legal citizen does nothing wrong they have nothing to fear. Cut and dried in my opinion. Make it all public knowledge. Why not? Hook in those BAC and drug monitors along with the record if they purchased a gun...crime problem solved.

Good points can't disagree with that. Only problem is with all the bad and illegal shit that's already out there. Crime problem is still a problem. But what's BAC?

DS1119

push me and i will resist wrote:

Good points can't disagree with that. Only problem is with all the bad and illegal shit that's already out there. Crime problem is still a problem. But what's BAC?

BAC is blood alcohol content. And you're hitting on my point. All the regulations society wants to put on legal citizens will never stop the crime element. Punishing the innocent will never stop the illegal. If the citizens of the US really want to stop crime....concentrate on the criminals....not the innocent. Until then, my plan would probably work. We all would have to give up some individual rights but I think it would accomplish the goal of reducing crime. Heck...do nothing wrong and no one has anything to be worried about.

push me and i will resist

DS1119 wrote:

push me and i will resist wrote:

Good points can't disagree with that. Only problem is with all the bad and illegal shit that's already out there. Crime problem is still a problem. But what's BAC?

BAC is blood alcohol content. And you're hitting on my point. All the regulations society wants to put on legal citizens will never stop the crime element. Punishing the innocent will never stop the illegal. If the citizens of the US really want to stop crime....concentrate on the criminals....not the innocent. Until then, my plan would probably work. We all would have to give up some individual rights but I think it would accomplish the goal of reducing crime. Heck...do nothing wrong and no one has anything to be worried about.

Fuck I am dumb. BAC.... You are right, do nothing wrong and life is good.

DS1119

push me and i will resist wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

push me and i will resist wrote:

Good points can't disagree with that. Only problem is with all the bad and illegal shit that's already out there. Crime problem is still a problem. But what's BAC?

BAC is blood alcohol content. And you're hitting on my point. All the regulations society wants to put on legal citizens will never stop the crime element. Punishing the innocent will never stop the illegal. If the citizens of the US really want to stop crime....concentrate on the criminals....not the innocent. Until then, my plan would probably work. We all would have to give up some individual rights but I think it would accomplish the goal of reducing crime. Heck...do nothing wrong and no one has anything to be worried about.

Fuck I am dumb. BAC.... You are right, do nothing wrong and life is good.

...I said worried about, as far as the government nosing around in your affairs. Doesn't mean life is good for any individual. Still have the criminal element to deal with as well.

Byrnzie

DS1119 wrote:

Everyone is imbedded with a microchip. Every purchase you make gets put into a database that's sortable and searchable by anyone. Also, the chip can be tracked using GPS. A crime happens...the police can see what people were near the area of the crime...what items they own or have purchased but more importantly where they are now. In the microchip could be such info as BAC and drug levels to. I think such close monitoring of legal citizens would only benefit society and guard against the few who break the laws. It's a small price to pay of our individual freedoms but at the same time very necessary.

Alternatively, the U.S could simply regulate gun ownership and ban semi-automatic weapons.

Sorry if I just spoiled your self-serving little fantasy.

DS1119

Byrnzie wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Everyone is imbedded with a microchip. Every purchase you make gets put into a database that's sortable and searchable by anyone. Also, the chip can be tracked using GPS. A crime happens...the police can see what people were near the area of the crime...what items they own or have purchased but more importantly where they are now. In the microchip could be such info as BAC and drug levels to. I think such close monitoring of legal citizens would only benefit society and guard against the few who break the laws. It's a small price to pay of our individual freedoms but at the same time very necessary.

Alternatively, the U.S could simply regulate gun ownership and ban semi-automatic weapons.

Sorry if I just spoiled your self-serving little fantasy.

That would definitely stop crime. Prohibition worked once so let's do it again. And I love the assumptions that people have that gun ownership isn't already regulated. Comical.

But back to the point of the thread. This solution seems to work in my mind. Everyone gets tracked for everything they do..where they are...pretty simple solution in my opinion. Helps police...helps society...tracks criminals. Very easy.

Byrnzie

DS1119 wrote:

That would definitely stop crime. Prohibition worked once so let's do it again. And I love the assumptions that people have that gun ownership isn't already regulated. Comical.

So now you're gonna compare ownership of semi-automatic weapons with the drinking of alcohol?

Seriously pal, if you really do feel so passionately about allowing semi-automatic weapons on the streets of the U.S, and aren't simply trolling, then why don't you put your money where your mouth is and join a local militia?

DS1119

Byrnzie wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

That would definitely stop crime. Prohibition worked once so let's do it again. And I love the assumptions that people have that gun ownership isn't already regulated. Comical.

So now you're gonna compare ownership of semi-automatic weapons with the drinking of alcohol?

Seriously pal, if you really do feel so passionately about allowing semi-automatic weapons on the streets of the U.S, and aren't simply trolling, then why don't you put your money where your mouth is and join a local militia?

Don't have to join a militia. I support people's rights in this country. If they want to join a militia go ahead.

I support legal citizens rights, not criminals rights. If it were up to me if someone commits a crime with an illegal firearm, they face the death penalty. I'd say that would curb gun violence a hell of a lot more than worrying about the people who choose to use rifles for protection or sport.

push me and i will resist

DS1119 wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

That would definitely stop crime. Prohibition worked once so let's do it again. And I love the assumptions that people have that gun ownership isn't already regulated. Comical.

So now you're gonna compare ownership of semi-automatic weapons with the drinking of alcohol?

Seriously pal, if you really do feel so passionately about allowing semi-automatic weapons on the streets of the U.S, and aren't simply trolling, then why don't you put your money where your mouth is and join a local militia?

Don't have to join a militia. I support people's rights in this country. If they want to join a militia go ahead.

I support legal citizens rights, not criminals rights. If it were up to me if someone commits a crime with an illegal firearm, they face the death penalty. I'd say that would curb gun violence a hell of a lot more than worrying about the people who choose to use rifles for protection or sport.

I agree with you here in regards to the death penalty. If you shoot and kill then you don't even get a lawyer or a trial. If you take a life then you lose yours. I've never understood how murderers get the chance for a trial, to plead insanity and then get parole. It just makes no sense no matter what country you live in.

Byrnzie

DS1119 wrote:

I support legal citizens rights, not criminals rights.

Great, so if Obama makes it illegal to own a semi-automatic weapon then you'll be supporting it, seeing as you're all for the rule of law, and opposed to criminal behaviour, right?

DS1119 wrote:

If it were up to me if someone commits a crime with an illegal firearm, they face the death penalty. I'd say that would curb gun violence a hell of a lot more than worrying about the people who choose to use rifles for protection or sport.

Except the death penalty doesn't work as a deterrence, so your wrong, again.

Byrnzie

push me and i will resist wrote:

I agree with you here in regards to the death penalty. If you shoot and kill then you don't even get a lawyer or a trial. If you take a life then you lose yours. I've never understood how murderers get the chance for a trial, to plead insanity and then get parole. It just makes no sense no matter what country you live in.

There's something called 'innocent until proven guilty'. That's why they get a trial.

These aren't the fucking Middle Ages.

push me and i will resist

Byrnzie wrote:

push me and i will resist wrote:

I agree with you here in regards to the death penalty. If you shoot and kill then you don't even get a lawyer or a trial. If you take a life then you lose yours. I've never understood how murderers get the chance for a trial, to plead insanity and then get parole. It just makes no sense no matter what country you live in.

There's something called 'innocent until proven guilty'. That's why they get a trial.

These aren't the fucking Middle Ages.

I realize its not the Middle Ages. Would you give the Conneticut school shooter, if he didn't kill himself, the chance to prove his innocence?

What about the sick fuck at the Batman movie last year? Does he get the right to a lawyer and waste all that money that could be going to good places.

Timothy Mcveigh, remember him. Is he innocent as well till someone proves he is guilty.

I could go on and on with these cases where there is no question they murdered people.

I used to enjoy Pantera, Dimebag was a favorite musician of mine. He was shot and killed on stage playing his guitar, would that sick fuck get a fair trial as well.

dimitrispearljam

push me and i will resist wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

push me and i will resist wrote:

I agree with you here in regards to the death penalty. If you shoot and kill then you don't even get a lawyer or a trial. If you take a life then you lose yours. I've never understood how murderers get the chance for a trial, to plead insanity and then get parole. It just makes no sense no matter what country you live in.

There's something called 'innocent until proven guilty'. That's why they get a trial.

These aren't the fucking Middle Ages.

I realize its not the Middle Ages. Would you give the Conneticut school shooter, if he didn't kill himself, the chance to prove his innocence?

so..if the shooter didnt kill himself...and get away....and someone by mistake point you as the shooter,you accidsentaly passing by from the spot...would you like a trial???or shoot you with no trial and a lawyer??

we have a say here in Greece..
Better1000 guilty out of prison,than one innocent in to the prison....

Byrnzie

push me and i will resist wrote:

I realize its not the Middle Ages. Would you give the Conneticut school shooter, if he didn't kill himself, the chance to prove his innocence?

What about the sick fuck at the Batman movie last year? Does he get the right to a lawyer and waste all that money that could be going to good places.

Timothy Mcveigh, remember him. Is he innocent as well till someone proves he is guilty.

I could go on and on with these cases where there is no question they murdered people.

I used to enjoy Pantera, Dimebag was a favorite musician of mine. He was shot and killed on stage playing his guitar, would that sick fuck get a fair trial as well.

You could list a thousand cases. They're irrelevant. Everyone has the right to habeas corpus - to a fair trial. Otherwise society would break down, and we could just go around killing anyone we thought was guilty of anything.

john roach

Guilty get a fair trial so that everyone else cn continue to get a fair trial . If you take away fair trials from one you risk taking it away from everyone, because once you give the people in charge the power to decide innocence or guilt without trials what's to stop them from saying you are guilty. Everyone gets a fair trial to protect the innocent . And as far as letting the government know everything you're doing, well I don't trust anyone that much.