No ma'am, I won't register my guns

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  • Ok sometimes I get why people want to own guns and I'm ok with it.
    I get that some think everyone should have a right to own an AR-15, a bazooka, an Uzi.. Whatever..
    But to be so damned adamant about simply not registering your guns is just selfish in my opinion.
    But you either think and are afraid of registering them because you think one day the big bad govt is going to knock on your door and confiscate them. ( never gonna happen)

    .. Or you think registering them might be a good start in keeping people from selling their guns to the nearest gangbanger. Is it so bad to keep track of things that are that lethal and in which we have an absolutely amazing quantity of that have found themselves in the wrong hands?

    Yeah I register my car, my motorcycle... Shit, even the guitar amp I bought last month is on file with a serial number and purchase date.
    other than ownership,there is no logic reason...
    the fight the tyrans ,goverment ,is all bullshit...
    anyone goes against the system ,the system makes him dissapear..
    Hollywood knows better...
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,422
    aerial wrote:
    Wonder what the futurist and historian Niall Ferguson thinks about this in a historical perspective ?
     
    History repeats itself in similar ways, maybe not exactly for the same reasons but human nature and the arrogance of power will never be different and when you have tyrants elected or come to power don’t be too quick to deny the facts of history!
    The police and the courts will not help protect you, your family or your assets. They will not be on your side as a result of political correctness,  pressure from the likes of Obama who has pushed class warfare, leftist laws and edicts and a racist philosophy.
    No I am not paranoid just a very concerned student of history.
     

    Subject: Gun Control

    It is not really about self defense, it is about freedom from a government to oppress a population.....although in the end, self defense is exactly what it ultimately becomes I guess.................

    In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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    In 1911, Turkey established gun control. >From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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    Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
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    China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
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    Guatemala established gun control in 1964. >From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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    Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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    Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated’ people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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    Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.

    so everyone gets all bent out of shape when someone uses Hitler as an example for war crimes that the US has inflicted on the world, but now you are using Nazi-era Germany as an example of why you need to keep your guns? not to mention a bunch of countries that have murdering dictators at the helm?

    this sounds crazier than Prince of Dorkness in a Russ Meyer film.

    What is crazy is those that think it could not happen here.....so just in case we will keep our guns...

    Yes keep your guns because you have to be ready for ......

    ZOG
    The New World Order
    And of course the Blue Helmeted United Nations Forces that Obama will invite to America to take away your guns
    :o

  • Yes keep your guns because you have to be ready for ......

    ZOG
    The New World Order
    And of course the Blue Helmeted United Nations Forces that Obama will invite to America to take away your guns
    :o
    that was a fuckin SMART comment.. :thumbup:
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,422

    Yes keep your guns because you have to be ready for ......

    ZOG
    The New World Order
    And of course the Blue Helmeted United Nations Forces that Obama will invite to America to take away your guns
    :o
    that was a fuckin SMART comment.. :thumbup:

    Coming from the great and wise DIMI that is high priase... THANKS :D
  • unsung
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    I'm sure there are many here that would love to have UN troops patrolling our streets, all in the name of safety of course. :lol:
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,437
    unsung wrote:
    I'm sure there are many here that would love to have UN troops patrolling our streets, all in the name of safety of course. :lol:
    well no. Those fuckers just stand around and "observe"
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037

    Yes keep your guns because you have to be ready for ......

    ZOG
    The New World Order
    And of course the Blue Helmeted United Nations Forces that Obama will invite to America to take away your guns
    :o
    that was a fuckin SMART comment.. :thumbup:

    Dimi, how was that a smart comment? Please explain how claiming that the U.N will invade the U.S is smart?
  • Byrnzie wrote:

    Yes keep your guns because you have to be ready for ......

    ZOG
    The New World Order
    And of course the Blue Helmeted United Nations Forces that Obama will invite to America to take away your guns
    :o
    that was a fuckin SMART comment.. :thumbup:

    Dimi, how was that a smart comment? Please explain how claiming that the U.N will invade the U.S is smart?

    um, wasn't Bentleyspop being sarcastic?
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  • Byrnzie wrote:
    that was a fuckin SMART comment.. :thumbup:

    Dimi, how was that a smart comment? Please explain how claiming that the U.N will invade the U.S is smart?

    um, wasn't Bentleyspop being sarcastic?
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  • unsung
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    :corn: :corn: :corn:
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    :corn: :corn: :corn:

    that much popcorn isn't good for you.
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    I don’t believe the crooks, bureaucrats  and tyrants in Washington DC should take our guns or neuter or 2nd amendment rights
     
    Speak up!!


    Woot



    Exactly.
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    I am afraid this is the direction the leftists and liberals are taking us on the second amendment rights.






    You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door.

    Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers.

    At least two people have broken into your house and are moving your way.


    With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun.

    You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward the door and open it...

    In the darkness, you make out two shadows.
    One holds something that looks like a crowbar.

    When the intruder brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire.

    The blast knocks both thugs to the floor.

    One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door

    and lurches outside.

    As you pick up the telephone to call police, you know you're in trouble.

    In your country, most guns were outlawed years before,

    and the few that are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless..

    Yours was never registered..

    Police arrive and inform you

    that the second burglar has died.

    They arrest you for First Degree Murder

    and Illegal Possession of a Firearm.

    When you talk to your attorney, he tells you not to worry:

    authorities will probably plea the case down to manslaughter.

    "What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask.

    "Only ten-to-twelve years,"

    he replies, as if that's nothing.

    "Behave yourself, and you'll be out in seven."

    The next day, the shooting is the lead

    story in the local newspaper.

    Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men you shot are represented as choirboys.

    Their friends and relatives can't find an unkind word to say about them..

    Buried deep down in the article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been arrested numerous times.

    But the next day's headline says it all:

    "Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die."

    The thieves have been transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters..

    As the days wear on, the story takes wings.

    The national media picks it up,

    then the international media.
    The surviving burglar has become a folk hero.

    Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he'll probably win.

    The media publishes reports that your home has been burglarized several times in the past and

    that you've been critical of local police for their lack

    of effort in apprehending the suspects.

    After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be prepared next time.

    The District Attorney uses this to allege

    that you were lying in wait for the burglars.

    A few months later, you go to trial.

    The charges haven't been reduced,

    as your lawyer had so confidently predicted.

    When you take the stand, your anger at

    the injustice of it all works against you..

    Prosecutors paint a picture of you

    as a mean, vengeful man.

    It doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges.

    The judge sentences you to life in prison.


    This case really happened.


    On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk , England, killed one burglar and wounded a second.

    In April, 2000, he was convicted and is now serving a life term..

    How did it become a crime to defend one's own life in the once great British Empire ?

    It started with the Pistols Act of 1903.


    This seemingly reasonable law forbade selling pistols to minors or felons and

    established that handgun sales were to be made only to those who had a license.

    The Firearms Act of 1920 expanded licensing to include not only handguns but all firearms except shotguns..

    Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any weapon by private citizens and

    mandated the registration of all shotguns.

    Momentum for total handgun confiscation began in earnest after the Hungerford mass shooting in 1987.

    Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed man with a Kalashnikov rifle, walked down the street shooting everyone he saw.
    When the smoke cleared, 17 people were dead.

    The British public, already de-sensitized by eighty years of "gun control", demanded even tougher restrictions.

    (The seizure of all privately owned handguns was the objective even though Ryan used a rifle.)

    Nine years later, at Dunblane, Scotland,

    Thomas Hamilton used a semi-automatic weapon to murder 16 children and a teacher at a public school.

    For many years, the media had portrayed all gun owners as mentally unstable, or worse, criminals.

    Now the press had a real kook with which to beat up law-abiding gun owners.

    Day after day, week after week, the media gave up all pretense of objectivity and demanded a total ban on all handguns.

    The Dunblane Inquiry, a few months later, sealed the fate of the few sidearm's

    still owned by private citizens.

    During the years in which the British government incrementally took away most gun rights,

    the notion that a citizen had the right to armed self-defense came to be seen as vigilantism.

    Authorities refused to grant gun licenses to people who were threatened,

    claiming that self-defense was no longer considered a reason to own a gun.

    Citizens who shot burglars or robbers or rapists were charged while the real criminals were released.

    Indeed, after the Martin shooting, a police spokesman was quoted as saying,

    "We cannot have people take the law into their own hands."

    All of Tony Martin's neighbors had been robbed numerous times,
    and several elderly people were severely injured in beatings by young thugs
    who had no fear of the consequences.
    Martin himself, a collector of antiques,
    had seen most of his collection
    trashed or stolen by burglars.

    When the Dunblane Inquiry ended,
    citizens who owned handguns
    were given three months to turn them over to local authorities.

    Being good British subjects,
    most people obeyed the law.
    The few who didn't were visited by police
    and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if they didn't comply.

    Police later bragged that they'd taken
    nearly 200,000 handguns from private citizens.

    How did the authorities know who had handguns?
    The guns had been registered and licensed.
    Kind of like cars. Sound familiar?

    WAKE UP AMERICA;

    THIS IS WHY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS PUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT IN OUR CONSTITUTION.

    "...It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
    --Samuel Adams

    If you think this is important, please forward to everyone you know..


    You had better wake up, because Obama is doing this very same thing, over here, if he can get it done.

    And there are stupid people in congress and on the street that will go right along with him.
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    ofcourse its the government's right to know what you own..
    you need to pay taxis for what you own


    I guess the government should know what porn every citizen owns too? As we know, criminal sex offenders also have huge stashes of pornography as well. I guess then every legal citizen, in spite of prior convictions, should be forced to register every single piece of pornography they own...then the government could better monitor these potential predators and criminals with much higher accuracy.


    And this is just a point I'm making. I am not stating you didmitris does or does not possess porn. I don't care. That's everyone's own personal business, just like owning a firearm legally.
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    edited January 2013
    With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun.

    Umm.... I'm hearing from all 'proud and loud' gun owners that such gun owners are RESPONSIBLE gun owners, own their guns RESPONSIBLY and store them SAFELY, thus won't be stolen, used by others for 'nasties', taken 'by accident', etc. This is the mantra we hear on these threads - proud gun owners with their guns locked up and ammo locked up elsewhere. No problems.

    So where does having a loaded gun or a gun and your ammo right next to your bed, within reach and readily available when you are half awake come into being RESPONSIBLE and SAFE gun owner?

    Just an observation....
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    um, wasn't Bentleyspop being sarcastic?

    O.k, I missed that. It's becoming difficult to tell the difference between whacked-out paranoid gibberish, and sarcasm here on AMT lately.
  • "With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun."

    What kind of brain-tard moron keeps a loaded shot gun next to their bed and uses it while half awake?
  • Byrnzie wrote:
    um, wasn't Bentleyspop being sarcastic?

    O.k, I missed that. It's becoming difficult to tell the difference between whacked-out paranoid gibberish, and sarcasm here on AMT lately.
    you are so right about that...there is a paranoid lately here...
    bananas,farts,eyelook,slaping,cars,airplanes,drinks,sex toys are the same bad as bullets and guns for some responsible gun owners lovers..
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    you are so right about that...there is a paranoid lately here...
    bananas,farts,eyelook,slaping,cars,airplanes,drinks,sex toys are the same bad as bullets and guns for some responsible gun owners lovers..


    I guess as some proponents of increased gun legislation have stated on these boards..."the numbers don't lie". I say track everything and over regulate it. That's definitely the answer. Infringing on legal and law abiding citizen's own personal rights will definitely stop the criminal element. It's quite apparent that is the solution.
  • "With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun."

    What kind of brain-tard moron keeps a loaded shot gun next to their bed and uses it while half awake?
    Its the responsible gun owners that have them safe locked ..blah blah...
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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