Will Boehner resign?

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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    How were Sandy victims thrown under the bus?
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    pjl44 wrote:
    Eh...if he resigns, not sure how anyone expects that to make for much of a difference. Would love to hear a case made to that point, though. Cosmo, why do you think Rand Paul would be worse?
    ...
    As pointed out, Rand Paul is in the Senate, not the House. My bad.
    The point I am trying to make is that Michelle Bachmann/Rand Paul-esque candidates hold a 'take no prisoners' attitude towards their jobs. Compromise is part of the deal when you take public office. You HAVE to negotiate to reach a concensus when you are talking about a large governing body... that represents a vast number of citizens. We are not all going to agree, point to point, on every issue. Negotiations, often times heated debate will occur... that is part of the process, but at some point you NEED to find a common ground that everyone can live with. Sure, it would be nice if everything you wanted... you got. But, we are a society of varying people with varying views due to varying life experiences. So, you don't get to decide what is best for everyone... California cannot decide how Alabama should live... Alabama should not dictate how Vermont lives... and so on.
    We may agree that Boehner is not the best Speaker... but, seriously, it could be a lot worse.

    It took his THIS long to start any compromise with Obama, he is his Party of the non-compromising. Anyone else may not do better, but clearly we can't do ant worse than Boehner. He has refused to budge on anything until the other day, right before he threw Sandy victims under the bus.

    Compromise is a 2 way street.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • Bronx Bombers
    Bronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    pjl44 wrote:
    Eh...if he resigns, not sure how anyone expects that to make for much of a difference. Would love to hear a case made to that point, though. Cosmo, why do you think Rand Paul would be worse?
    ...
    As pointed out, Rand Paul is in the Senate, not the House. My bad.
    The point I am trying to make is that Michelle Bachmann/Rand Paul-esque candidates hold a 'take no prisoners' attitude towards their jobs. Compromise is part of the deal when you take public office. You HAVE to negotiate to reach a concensus when you are talking about a large governing body... that represents a vast number of citizens. We are not all going to agree, point to point, on every issue. Negotiations, often times heated debate will occur... that is part of the process, but at some point you NEED to find a common ground that everyone can live with. Sure, it would be nice if everything you wanted... you got. But, we are a society of varying people with varying views due to varying life experiences. So, you don't get to decide what is best for everyone... California cannot decide how Alabama should live... Alabama should not dictate how Vermont lives... and so on.
    We may agree that Boehner is not the best Speaker... but, seriously, it could be a lot worse.

    It took his THIS long to start any compromise with Obama, he is his Party of the non-compromising. Anyone else may not do better, but clearly we can't do ant worse than Boehner. He has refused to budge on anything until the other day, right before he threw Sandy victims under the bus.

    Sure we can do worse, did you forget about his predecessor. :lol:
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Jeanwah wrote:
    One would think that after losing the election by a land-slide and the direction that the people in the country are moving (forward, not backward), republicans would pay attention. It seems that they have their feet firmly planted in the mud more-so now than before. But, passing the fiscal cliff bill was a start. Now to get Boehner out. It's a start, anyway.

    If "con" is the opposite of "pro," then is Congress the opposite of progress? We know that conservative is the opposite...
    ...
    The Republicans are in a hole... they dug themselves a deep one. It is going to take a long time to get themselves back out.
    And they face a monsterous task to face. They are going to have to fight the Neo-Conservatives who command the fringe and their powerful mouthpiece, FOX News.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    Cosmo wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    One would think that after losing the election by a land-slide and the direction that the people in the country are moving (forward, not backward), republicans would pay attention. It seems that they have their feet firmly planted in the mud more-so now than before. But, passing the fiscal cliff bill was a start. Now to get Boehner out. It's a start, anyway.

    If "con" is the opposite of "pro," then is Congress the opposite of progress? We know that conservative is the opposite...
    ...
    The Republicans are in a hole... they dug themselves a deep one. It is going to take a long time to get themselves back out.
    And they face a monsterous task to face. They are going to have to fight the Neo-Conservatives who command the fringe and their powerful mouthpiece, FOX News.

    Ha, ha, ha. Not so fast. One would think so. But, the battle of taxes is over. Next up is the debt ceiling and spending cuts. Which cards does Obama and Reid exactly hold in the debt ceiling debate? Memories and political stances are very short term things. Don't be too surprised if this actually gives more power to the right of the House Republicans in the next round.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    Cosmo wrote:
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    The Republicans are in a hole... they dug themselves a deep one. It is going to take a long time to get themselves back out.
    And they face a monsterous task to face. They are going to have to fight the Neo-Conservatives who command the fringe and their powerful mouthpiece, FOX News.

    I really thought the pushback against FOX would have been started by how badly the network bungled its election predictions. Doesn't seem to have happened though...
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  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    Jeanwah wrote:
    One would think that after losing the election by a land-slide and the direction that the people in the country are moving (forward, not backward), republicans would pay attention. It seems that they have their feet firmly planted in the mud more-so now than before. But, passing the fiscal cliff bill was a start. Now to get Boehner out. It's a start, anyway.

    If "con" is the opposite of "pro," then is Congress the opposite of progress? We know that conservative is the opposite...

    Boehner's not going anywhere, as you are about to find out.

    And the tax bill that Obama just passed is his last leverage for a while. Now that the masses THINK (and it's only think because they are wrong) they aren't having their taxes raised, the next battle is the debt ceiling. Who holds the leverage there?
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    JimmyV wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    The Republicans are in a hole... they dug themselves a deep one. It is going to take a long time to get themselves back out.
    And they face a monsterous task to face. They are going to have to fight the Neo-Conservatives who command the fringe and their powerful mouthpiece, FOX News.

    I really thought the pushback against FOX would have been started by how badly the network bungled its election predictions. Doesn't seem to have happened though...

    Funny that you guys think anyone is fighting a tv network. FOX like MSNBC is in the business of making money. One is just better at doing it than the other.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    The Republicans are in a hole... they dug themselves a deep one. It is going to take a long time to get themselves back out.
    And they face a monsterous task to face. They are going to have to fight the Neo-Conservatives who command the fringe and their powerful mouthpiece, FOX News.

    I really thought the pushback against FOX would have been started by how badly the network bungled its election predictions. Doesn't seem to have happened though...

    Funny that you guys think anyone is fighting a tv network. FOX like MSNBC is in the business of making money. One is just better at doing it than the other.

    FOX is much more in control of the GOP spin machine than MSNBC is in control of anything. Maybe that is, as you say, because FOX is better at what it does but that does not change what it does.
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  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    JimmyV wrote:
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:
    I really thought the pushback against FOX would have been started by how badly the network bungled its election predictions. Doesn't seem to have happened though...

    Funny that you guys think anyone is fighting a tv network. FOX like MSNBC is in the business of making money. One is just better at doing it than the other.

    FOX is much more in control of the GOP spin machine than MSNBC is in control of anything. Maybe that is, as you say, because FOX is better at what it does but that does not change what it does.

    Well, it's hard to be good at anything when only 5 people watch.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    One would think that after losing the election by a land-slide and the direction that the people in the country are moving (forward, not backward), republicans would pay attention. It seems that they have their feet firmly planted in the mud more-so now than before. But, passing the fiscal cliff bill was a start. Now to get Boehner out. It's a start, anyway.

    If "con" is the opposite of "pro," then is Congress the opposite of progress? We know that conservative is the opposite...

    Boehner's not going anywhere, as you are about to find out.

    And the tax bill that Obama just passed is his last leverage for a while. Now that the masses THINK (and it's only think because they are wrong) they aren't having their taxes raised, the next battle is the debt ceiling. Who holds the leverage there?

    http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013 ... snhp&pos=1
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    Funny that you guys think anyone is fighting a tv network. FOX like MSNBC is in the business of making money. One is just better at doing it than the other.
    ...
    FOX News is the voice of the Neo-Conservative wing of the Republican party. All you need to do is look at the roster of political analysts they have on their payroll... beginning with Karl Rove. FOX News is the station for the Republican Party, by the Republican Party.

    Ann Coulter said it best...
    Regarding the Andrea Saul comment during the Presidential Campaign, 2012:
    (ref. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ann-coulter- ... -be-fired/ )
    "Anyone who donates to Mitt Romney, and I mean the big donors, ought to say if Andrea Saul isn’t fired and off the campaign tomorrow, they are not giving another dime, because it is not worth fighting for this man if this is the kind of spokesman he has…
    There’s no point in you doing your show, there’s no point in going to the convention and pushing for this man if he’s employing morons like this. This ad is the turning point and she has nearly snatched victory from the jaws of defeat! She should be off the campaign."
    ...
    Deny that this is the case... but, it is still the case.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    i just received my evaluation from the people i work for...my dept scored an 18% !! i scored 29% !!
    THEY SIGNED ME ON FOR 2 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Cosmo wrote:
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    Yes. But, you do argee that both Rand Paul and Michelle Bachmann are 'Take No Prisoner' types that look across the aisle and see enemies that need to be completely annihilated, right? If given their way, there would be NO Compromises because the opposition is seen as the enemy that needs to be completely destroyed.
    If not.. please, give me examples where either one has presented compromise solutions.


    Rand fights his own party nearly as much as he does the opposing. Bachmann toes the party line, all of the time.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    unsung wrote:
    Rand fights his own party nearly as much as he does the opposing. Bachmann toes the party line, all of the time.
    ...
    So... you agree... both refuse to compromise, regardless of who they see as the opposition. Both share that common trait.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • fear4freedom
    fear4freedom Posts: 920
    Cosmo wrote:
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    Funny that you guys think anyone is fighting a tv network. FOX like MSNBC is in the business of making money. One is just better at doing it than the other.
    ...
    FOX News is the voice of the Neo-Conservative wing of the Republican party. All you need to do is look at the roster of political analysts they have on their payroll... beginning with Karl Rove. FOX News is the station for the Republican Party, by the Republican Party.

    Ann Coulter said it best...
    Regarding the Andrea Saul comment during the Presidential Campaign, 2012:
    (ref. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ann-coulter- ... -be-fired/ )
    "Anyone who donates to Mitt Romney, and I mean the big donors, ought to say if Andrea Saul isn’t fired and off the campaign tomorrow, they are not giving another dime, because it is not worth fighting for this man if this is the kind of spokesman he has…
    There’s no point in you doing your show, there’s no point in going to the convention and pushing for this man if he’s employing morons like this. This ad is the turning point and she has nearly snatched victory from the jaws of defeat! She should be off the campaign."
    ...
    Deny that this is the case... but, it is still the case.

    There are more Democrats on Fox News than Republicans on ANY and ALL other news sources! Ever notice that? WIll you search it and admit it?
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Cosmo wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    Rand fights his own party nearly as much as he does the opposing. Bachmann toes the party line, all of the time.
    ...
    So... you agree... both refuse to compromise, regardless of who they see as the opposition. Both share that common trait.


    Honestly I don't want compromise. But Bachmann does compromise as you can look at her voting record on the previously mentioned list of rights destroying items. When Congress compromises we either get higher taxes, more spending, or lose rights. When's the last time Congress really cut spending? I'm not talking about $15M in chump change.

    Rand is not perfect and he is certainly not his father but if he runs for President I will work to get him elected. Well, unless Justin Amash runs, he is a Ron Paul clone. I'll take it.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 wrote:
    i just received my evaluation from the people i work for...my dept scored an 18% !! i scored 29% !!
    THEY SIGNED ME ON FOR 2 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!


    no one thought this was funny or sad? okay..carry on with the right/red/conservative and left/blue/liberal masturbation
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    A look inside the failed attempt to oust Boehner. "Not exactly the Roman Senate scheming to dispatch Caesar."

    http://www.salon.com/2013/01/04/how_con ... n_boehner/
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 wrote:
    JC29856 wrote:
    i just received my evaluation from the people i work for...my dept scored an 18% !! i scored 29% !!
    THEY SIGNED ME ON FOR 2 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!


    no one thought this was funny or sad? okay..carry on with the right/red/conservative and left/blue/liberal masturbation

    okay maybe you didnt get it....it really wasnt about me or the people i work for it was a allegory about BOehNER, congress approval rating 18%, BOehNERs approval rating 29%...hahahahaha, jiggle, jiggle!
    someone pass the lube

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