Will Boehner resign?
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Jeanwah
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Jeanwah
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Actually... I hope not.
I mean, he DID compromise to avoid risking our economy from possibly running into another recession. That (compromise) is what is needed in Congress in order to get anything done. The gridlock created by the non-stop, warlike bullshit that has been going on is what has lead us to this fucked up situation. The people that need to be ousted are the ones who think they are at war with the other side of the aisle.
Our government is based upon the give and take of compromise because we are such a vast collective of interests. The ones who think their way is the only way are the ones that are fucking it up for everyone.
Hail, Hail!!!
He DID compromise what, exactly, Cosmo? Is this because he last minute decided to pass the fiscal cliff bill? After his actions with delaying aid to Hurricane Sandy victims today, and only changing his mind due to strong GOP contesting, he's done and personally, I can't wait til he's gone.
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He got enough Republicans to vote for the passage of the bill by raising the limit on individuals from $250,000.00 to $400,000.00. For which, he took a hit. If it were up to the Santorum/Bachmann types, we would have went over and the market would have reacted, probably, in a negative manner.
And now... the House Republicans have to answer to America on WHY they cut loose the victims of Hurricane Sandy... including House Speaker Boehner.
Imagine Boehner's replacement... Cantor? Rand Paul? Bachmann?
Hail, Hail!!!
Speaker technically doesn't have to be a member of the House. Crazy, I know. And, it's never happened (and is more unlikely than the Cubs winning the WS anytime soon). But, your or I could be Speaker of the House if they knew us.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
As pointed out, Rand Paul is in the Senate, not the House. My bad.
The point I am trying to make is that Michelle Bachmann/Rand Paul-esque candidates hold a 'take no prisoners' attitude towards their jobs. Compromise is part of the deal when you take public office. You HAVE to negotiate to reach a concensus when you are talking about a large governing body... that represents a vast number of citizens. We are not all going to agree, point to point, on every issue. Negotiations, often times heated debate will occur... that is part of the process, but at some point you NEED to find a common ground that everyone can live with. Sure, it would be nice if everything you wanted... you got. But, we are a society of varying people with varying views due to varying life experiences. So, you don't get to decide what is best for everyone... California cannot decide how Alabama should live... Alabama should not dictate how Vermont lives... and so on.
We may agree that Boehner is not the best Speaker... but, seriously, it could be a lot worse.
Hail, Hail!!!
Isn't that cool? I think it would be exciting to have a speaker of the house that wan't a congressman!
It took his THIS long to start any compromise with Obama, he is his Party of the non-compromising. Anyone else may not do better, but clearly we can't do ant worse than Boehner. He has refused to budge on anything until the other day, right before he threw Sandy victims under the bus.
This is an interesting bit of trivia that I never knew. Not entirely sure how I feel about this given that the Speaker is second on the list behind the VP to succeed the President if anything ever were to happen.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
But, you have to consider the overall picture that includes the histroy on how he got into this situation.
The Republicans have built themselves a house that is difficult to operate in. They have swung away from the moderate point of view towards the the outer fringes of the Right Wing. The fringes is where the lunatics live. That is where the conspiracy theories are born. That is where Michelle Bachmann is considered brilliant.
Republicans now have to cater to this fringe element in order to gain the nomination to run for office. They HAVE to say crazy shit on the campaign trail, even if they believe the complet opposite, in order to compete with the absurdity of the Santorums and Hermann Cains and Newt Gingriches just to get the nomination. Once in office, they have to deal with those crazy candidates that did win their seats.
The Republican Party really needs to re-gain its sanity. Republicans used to be the level headed ones in government... now, they are the crazy, birther-type looney tunes. They really need to step away from the fringe and back to planet Earth.
Hail, Hail!!!
Both backed Mitt Romney... they share that in common
Yes. But, you do argee that both Rand Paul and Michelle Bachmann are 'Take No Prisoner' types that look across the aisle and see enemies that need to be completely annihilated, right? If given their way, there would be NO Compromises because the opposition is seen as the enemy that needs to be completely destroyed.
If not.. please, give me examples where either one has presented compromise solutions.
Hail, Hail!!!
One would think that after losing the election by a land-slide and the direction that the people in the country are moving (forward, not backward), republicans would pay attention. It seems that they have their feet firmly planted in the mud more-so now than before. But, passing the fiscal cliff bill was a start. Now to get Boehner out. It's a start, anyway.
If "con" is the opposite of "pro," then is Congress the opposite of progress? We know that conservative is the opposite...
Compromise is a 2 way street.
Sure we can do worse, did you forget about his predecessor.
The Republicans are in a hole... they dug themselves a deep one. It is going to take a long time to get themselves back out.
And they face a monsterous task to face. They are going to have to fight the Neo-Conservatives who command the fringe and their powerful mouthpiece, FOX News.
Hail, Hail!!!
Ha, ha, ha. Not so fast. One would think so. But, the battle of taxes is over. Next up is the debt ceiling and spending cuts. Which cards does Obama and Reid exactly hold in the debt ceiling debate? Memories and political stances are very short term things. Don't be too surprised if this actually gives more power to the right of the House Republicans in the next round.
I really thought the pushback against FOX would have been started by how badly the network bungled its election predictions. Doesn't seem to have happened though...
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Boehner's not going anywhere, as you are about to find out.
And the tax bill that Obama just passed is his last leverage for a while. Now that the masses THINK (and it's only think because they are wrong) they aren't having their taxes raised, the next battle is the debt ceiling. Who holds the leverage there?
Funny that you guys think anyone is fighting a tv network. FOX like MSNBC is in the business of making money. One is just better at doing it than the other.
FOX is much more in control of the GOP spin machine than MSNBC is in control of anything. Maybe that is, as you say, because FOX is better at what it does but that does not change what it does.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Well, it's hard to be good at anything when only 5 people watch.