The Journal News hires staff of armed guards.
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http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/01/02/168450231/n-y-news-outlet-that-posted-names-of-gun-owners-hires-armed-guards
The Journal News has since hired a staff of armed guards. Yes, guys with guns. I love it when these idiots get their foot stuck in their mouth. All I have to say is "AH-HAH!"
The Journal News has since hired a staff of armed guards. Yes, guys with guns. I love it when these idiots get their foot stuck in their mouth. All I have to say is "AH-HAH!"
“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
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Let me get this straight; you find it funny that people are so fearful for their safety that they need to get armed protection?? Am I to understand that correctly Arial?
That's a little fucked up.
Point well made......now can we see why people own guns? Safety!
Will you please give it a rest with this crap. You've already muddied yourself and any point you've been trying to make by crass attempts to inject the gun control conversation into any number of threads. It's actually quite disgusting to read, alas I'm sure you care little.
Absence of empathy is fast becoming an American trait I fear, with a certain section of the population I hasten to add.
So, this new source came out and said they think all guns should be banned?
Some people feel that way.......
I would suggest that it says more about the people who have made the threats. Me thinks these would be the same folk who would stock up on weapons for fear that their "rights" may be infringed. However try and show these people (present company included) the irony of issuing death threats to those who are exercising their "rights" to freedom of speech, I fear is lost on you.
And your rejoicing in the fact that people have this fear for their safety is telling. Why the incessant need to be right?
My feelings on this matter are clear, other countries manage to deal with the same issues America does, and yet experience no where near the same levels of gun violence. Main difference; stricter gun control, and I have to see any of you gun people challenge that point. So therefore, all your attempts draw comparisons with cars, swimming pools, alcohol, rape are simply cheap ways to further some sick point. Granted my opinion.
Hey ho never mind
Now see this point has been covered numerous times, I believe there is maybe 1 or at a stretch 3 people who have advocated a full ban on guns, so this point is moot.
You are harping on over a non issue
Safety... from what?
Answer: People with GUNS.
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Now... using your own logic... IF logical people who owned guns are threatening the newspaper with their legally owned guns... doesn't that mean they are NOT legal gun owners and their guns are used to threaten lives... rather than protect their own?
Hail, Hail!!!
It says they received negative correspondence....it does not say anyone threatened there life....and who is to say it came from gun owners....I don't own a gun and I feel they should not have printed people addresses....... Just goes to show what kind of cowards they are. Too cowardly to defend themselves, they hire someone with a gun to do it for them.
Wait. Did YOU write to them with your 'Negative Correspondence'?
Now... are you telling me that you REALLY believe that a newspaper would hire armed guards... because people said, 'I don't agree with you?'. Really? Is THAT what you REALLY believe?
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If so... then, WHY do people own guns in the first place? Are you seriously telling me that a reason why people own guns... is because someone threatened them?
You said it yourself... People own guns (hire armed guards) because they fear for their safety. Why would anyone need to hire armed guards... if the only thing they had to worry about was E-Mails and phone calls?
Hail, Hail!!!
Maybe they are just trying to make gun owners look bad....who knows?
Yes. Unstable people... I can deal with them. Unstable people with guns... that's something altogether different. I can run away from some nutcase with a knife... it is pretty hard (even for me) to outrun bullets.
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You see... because it is easy for you to get a gun... legally... it is easy for someone like that Aurora Theater shooter to get a gun... legally.
Maybe... if you had to jump through a lot of hoops... to get a gun... legally. The borderline nutcases would also have to jump through those same hoops.
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I'm NOT saying you cannot own a gun... that is your right. I'm just saying, do whatever is possible to make it tougher for the future nutcases to get one.
That's all.
Hail, Hail!!!
Well... You know? Some gun owners do a pretty good job making themselves look bad.
Case in point... the legal gun owner who had an AR-15, two 9mm pistols, a shotgun, a .22 caliber rifle and other guns... along with a ton of ammo... in a house... in Conneticut... with an unstable 20 year old son who had full access to the arsenal.
Hail, Hail!!!
In spite of all of this, the US is the only developed nation I've been to that expresses such a strong personal attachment to their firearms. I've never owned a gun and all of my relatives that do own firearms use them exclusively for hunting. The notion that they might need a gun for self defence has not crossed their minds.
Now in fairness, if I was living in the United States I'm not sure how I would feel. I constantly hear Americans going on about how a gun makes them feel safer yet the US has a terrible record when it comes to gun violence. Yes, you have a lot of guns. I'm just not sure as to why you think that makes your lives safer.
You mean... our Kindergartens would not be safer if every kindergarten teacher in America kept a loaded weapon in the classroom... like our NRA assures us of?
Hail, Hail!!!
Important to note: the NRA isn't alone on that position:
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la ... 0900.story
For a country that paints itself as being democratic and free, the US sometimes seems to be only a few steps away from fascism. Security in the guise of freedom? No thank you.
Then again, if guns are the answer perhaps you should simply start training your children with firearms from the time they enter school. If everybody (including the kids) has a gun then surely everybody will be safe.
There... I fixed my statement.
Hail, Hail!!!
If you own a gun own proud and responsibly.
That is not who killed those children.
I know I wish there had been a gun in the kindergarden class to stop the killer
and when I read this I think yeah the employees probably feel safer.
I feel safer, I am safer, when I see armed security wherever I am.
We have them at the liquor store, the mall, resource officers in schools,
bars... I saw one at the local library. I mean if they are needed great and no one
should pass judgement on that. Maybe they live somewhere there is not the crime
we have, it is because of incidents that protection is given. Hindsight 20/20.
Best be prepared to save a life.
I personally feel sketched out when surrounded by people with guns. And I sure as hell don't trust security guards to use them responsibly. There is nothing about security guards that make be think they are going to be brave, responsible, or even thinking of the public's safety first. They are basically just random people getting paid poor wages (and some of them have weird agro issues/delusions of gradeur, which is what draws some of them to the job in the first place). I personally can't think of a single incident where an armed security guard saved people, actually... The only incident I can think of involving armed security guards is when that bank/ATM guard in Alberta used his weapon to murder 2 or 3 of his co-workers (all of whom were also armed with guns; no one even got a shot off if memory serves), and ran off injury-free with $350K.
I can see cops giving a sense of security and trainned professional guards, like the Armored Car drivers and bank guards. And uniformed National Guardsmen.
Minimum wage Mall Cops with cop wannabee attitudes... not so much. They over-react with the pepperspray... what are they gonna do with the real guns?
And definately NOT random yahoo needle dick civilian douchebags with a hero complex running around. The ones that will open fire on jaywalkers and litterbugs with a nusery school in their line of fire... no thanx.
Hail, Hail!!!
Proud is to be prepared to save another life if necessary.
The reason responsible gun owners own ...
for protection.
I guess we don't know the same security and resource officers.
I must have ended up with the keepers
I don't carry but I know when I am in certain public places
there are those carrying illegal guns. Unlicensed, untrained, irresponsible
and often predatory.
I feel better knowing there is a trained legal gun in the midst
with big backup at a moments notice. They are risking their lives to keep mine safe.
Let's never discount that. Certainly not a job you or I would do.
Kudos to them.
Armored car drivers are just a tiny step up from mall guards.
About 10 years ago, I was working a couple of part time jobs, and a co-worker applied somewhere as an armored car driver. At the time, they made like $12 an hour. Let me get this straight, you want me to protect hundreds of thousands (sometimes millions), possibly with my life, for $12 an hour?
Where I work now, we use an armored truck service for our deposits/cash deliveries... Half of them seem pretty sketchy.
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of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Resource Officers in the schools specially trained to work in that atmosphere
and to be mentors.
I would not judge negatively as some do though of mall security. Or of the trained concerned
citizen that just might save you or I one day. Sure are there some but not the rule.
Not in my opinion. My nephew worked his way through school protecting others
in security. He was trained to use a gun. And no he was not a wanna be.
The highlighted ...
do you have some examples of the yahoo needle dick civilian douchebags with a hero complex
running around.
I googled and couldn't find the stories you speak of. Something weird came up.
FYI, a school police liaison/resource officer is not anywhere near the same as an armed guard at a school. I think you might not be clear on what people are talking about when they say "armed security guards in schools."
I personally can't think of any stories off the top of my head where some citizen who was packing saved the day anywhere. I'm sure it happens once in a while, but I'm pretty sure it does not happen often enough for anyone to feel an extra sense of security by imagining that random people around them might be concealing a legal weapon.
As for being... what? An armed security guard? And that not being a job that I would do... Speak for yourself. If I lost my job and couldn't find another one that pays a decent salary and has good benefits, I certainly would not discount getting some security gig until I was back on my feet, and in the hopes that an armed position gave marginally higher pay, I'd take that one.... I would just hope that no one was naive enough to expect me to save their lives in a major gun attack, because I'd be minimally trained and, like 99% of others in the profession, poorly equipped or prepared to save anyone other than myself!