The Journal News hires staff of armed guards.

aerial

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/01/02/168450231/n-y-news-outlet-that-posted-names-of-gun-owners-hires-armed-guards


The Journal News has since hired a staff of armed guards. Yes, guys with guns. I love it when these idiots get their foot stuck in their mouth. All I have to say is "AH-HAH!"

Moonpig

aerial wrote:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/01/02/168450231/n-y-news-outlet-that-posted-names-of-gun-owners-hires-armed-guards


The Journal News has since hired a staff of armed guards. Yes, guys with guns. I love it when these idiots get their foot stuck in their mouth. All I have to say is "AH-HAH!"

Let me get this straight; you find it funny that people are so fearful for their safety that they need to get armed protection?? Am I to understand that correctly Arial?

That's a little fucked up.

aerial

Moonpig wrote:

aerial wrote:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/01/02/168450231/n-y-news-outlet-that-posted-names-of-gun-owners-hires-armed-guards


The Journal News has since hired a staff of armed guards. Yes, guys with guns. I love it when these idiots get their foot stuck in their mouth. All I have to say is "AH-HAH!"

Let me get this straight; you find it funny that people are so fearful for their safety that they need to get armed protection?? Am I to understand that correctly Arial?

That's a little fucked up.

Point well made......now can we see why people own guns? Safety!

Moonpig

aerial wrote:

Moonpig wrote:

aerial wrote:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/01/02/168450231/n-y-news-outlet-that-posted-names-of-gun-owners-hires-armed-guards


The Journal News has since hired a staff of armed guards. Yes, guys with guns. I love it when these idiots get their foot stuck in their mouth. All I have to say is "AH-HAH!"

Let me get this straight; you find it funny that people are so fearful for their safety that they need to get armed protection?? Am I to understand that correctly Arial?

That's a little fucked up.

Point well made......now can we see why people own guns? Safety!

Will you please give it a rest with this crap. You've already muddied yourself and any point you've been trying to make by crass attempts to inject the gun control conversation into any number of threads. It's actually quite disgusting to read, alas I'm sure you care little.

Absence of empathy is fast becoming an American trait I fear, with a certain section of the population I hasten to add.

aerial

This is a gun control post....just letting you know.....showing the hypocrisy of those that try to say we do not have the right to own guns......when a paper posts things they know citizens do not want posted all over the country well, it becomes fare game.....now they suffer the consequence for their actions, no ones fault but there own......

JonnyPistachio

aerial wrote:

This is a gun control post....just letting you know.....showing the hypocrisy of those that try to say we do not have the right to own guns......when a paper posts things they know citizens do not want posted all over the country well, it becomes fare game.....now they suffer the consequence for their actions, no ones fault but there own......

So, this new source came out and said they think all guns should be banned?

aerial

JonnyPistachio wrote:

aerial wrote:

This is a gun control post....just letting you know.....showing the hypocrisy of those that try to say we do not have the right to own guns......when a paper posts things they know citizens do not want posted all over the country well, it becomes fare game.....now they suffer the consequence for their actions, no ones fault but there own......

So, this new source came out and said they think all guns should be banned?

Some people feel that way.......

Moonpig

aerial wrote:

This is a gun control post....just letting you know.....showing the hypocrisy of those that try to say we do not have the right to own guns......when a paper posts things they know citizens do not want posted all over the country well, it becomes fare game.....now they suffer the consequence for their actions, no ones fault but there own......

I would suggest that it says more about the people who have made the threats. Me thinks these would be the same folk who would stock up on weapons for fear that their "rights" may be infringed. However try and show these people (present company included) the irony of issuing death threats to those who are exercising their "rights" to freedom of speech, I fear is lost on you.

And your rejoicing in the fact that people have this fear for their safety is telling. Why the incessant need to be right?

My feelings on this matter are clear, other countries manage to deal with the same issues America does, and yet experience no where near the same levels of gun violence. Main difference; stricter gun control, and I have to see any of you gun people challenge that point. So therefore, all your attempts draw comparisons with cars, swimming pools, alcohol, rape are simply cheap ways to further some sick point. Granted my opinion.

Hey ho never mind

Moonpig

aerial wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

aerial wrote:

This is a gun control post....just letting you know.....showing the hypocrisy of those that try to say we do not have the right to own guns......when a paper posts things they know citizens do not want posted all over the country well, it becomes fare game.....now they suffer the consequence for their actions, no ones fault but there own......

So, this new source came out and said they think all guns should be banned?

Some people feel that way.......

Now see this point has been covered numerous times, I believe there is maybe 1 or at a stretch 3 people who have advocated a full ban on guns, so this point is moot.

You are harping on over a non issue

Cosmo

aerial wrote:

Moonpig wrote:

Let me get this straight; you find it funny that people are so fearful for their safety that they need to get armed protection?? Am I to understand that correctly Arial?

That's a little fucked up.

Point well made......now can we see why people own guns? Safety!

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Safety... from what?
Answer: People with GUNS.
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Now... using your own logic... IF logical people who owned guns are threatening the newspaper with their legally owned guns... doesn't that mean they are NOT legal gun owners and their guns are used to threaten lives... rather than protect their own?

aerial

Cosmo wrote:

aerial wrote:

Moonpig wrote:

Let me get this straight; you find it funny that people are so fearful for their safety that they need to get armed protection?? Am I to understand that correctly Arial?

That's a little fucked up.

Point well made......now can we see why people own guns? Safety!

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Safety... from what?
Answer: People with GUNS.
...
Now... using your own logic... IF logical people who owned guns are threatening the newspaper with their legally owned guns... doesn't that mean they are NOT legal gun owners and their guns are used to threaten lives... rather than protect their own?

It says they received negative correspondence....it does not say anyone threatened there life....and who is to say it came from gun owners....I don't own a gun and I feel they should not have printed people addresses....... Just goes to show what kind of cowards they are. Too cowardly to defend themselves, they hire someone with a gun to do it for them.

Moonpig

aerial wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

aerial wrote:

Point well made......now can we see why people own guns? Safety!

...
Safety... from what?
Answer: People with GUNS.
...
Now... using your own logic... IF logical people who owned guns are threatening the newspaper with their legally owned guns... doesn't that mean they are NOT legal gun owners and their guns are used to threaten lives... rather than protect their own?

It says they received negative correspondence....it does not say anyone threatened there life....and who is to say it came from gun owners....I don't own a gun and I feel they should not have printed people addresses....... Just goes to show what kind of cowards they are. Too cowardly to defend themselves, they hire someone with a gun to do it for them.

is that how you square away your hypocrisy?

Cosmo

aerial wrote:

It says they received negative correspondence....it does not say anyone threatened there life....and who is to say it came from gun owners....I don't own a gun and I feel they should not have printed people addresses....... Just goes to show what kind of cowards they are. Too cowardly to defend themselves, they hire someone with a gun to do it for them.

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Wait. Did YOU write to them with your 'Negative Correspondence'?
Now... are you telling me that you REALLY believe that a newspaper would hire armed guards... because people said, 'I don't agree with you?'. Really? Is THAT what you REALLY believe?
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If so... then, WHY do people own guns in the first place? Are you seriously telling me that a reason why people own guns... is because someone threatened them?
You said it yourself... People own guns (hire armed guards) because they fear for their safety. Why would anyone need to hire armed guards... if the only thing they had to worry about was E-Mails and phone calls?

aerial

You do know that there are lots of unstable people in this world and you never know when one is going to show up.....as we see on the news everyday....

aerial

Cosmo wrote:

aerial wrote:

It says they received negative correspondence....it does not say anyone threatened there life....and who is to say it came from gun owners....I don't own a gun and I feel they should not have printed people addresses....... Just goes to show what kind of cowards they are. Too cowardly to defend themselves, they hire someone with a gun to do it for them.

..
Wait. Did YOU write to them with your 'Negative Correspondence'?
Now... are you telling me that you REALLY believe that a newspaper would hire armed guards... because people said, 'I don't agree with you?'. Really? Is THAT what you REALLY believe?
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If so... then, WHY do people own guns in the first place? Are you seriously telling me that a reason why people own guns... is because someone threatened them?
You said it yourself... People own guns (hire armed guards) because they fear for their safety. Why would anyone need to hire armed guards... if the only thing they had to worry about was E-Mails and phone calls?

Maybe they are just trying to make gun owners look bad....who knows?

Cosmo

aerial wrote:

You do know that there are lots of unstable people in this world and you never know when one is going to show up.....as we see on the news everyday....

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Yes. Unstable people... I can deal with them. Unstable people with guns... that's something altogether different. I can run away from some nutcase with a knife... it is pretty hard (even for me) to outrun bullets.
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You see... because it is easy for you to get a gun... legally... it is easy for someone like that Aurora Theater shooter to get a gun... legally.
Maybe... if you had to jump through a lot of hoops... to get a gun... legally. The borderline nutcases would also have to jump through those same hoops.
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I'm NOT saying you cannot own a gun... that is your right. I'm just saying, do whatever is possible to make it tougher for the future nutcases to get one.
That's all.

Cosmo

aerial wrote:

Maybe they are just trying to make gun owners look bad....who knows?

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Well... You know? Some gun owners do a pretty good job making themselves look bad.
Case in point... the legal gun owner who had an AR-15, two 9mm pistols, a shotgun, a .22 caliber rifle and other guns... along with a ton of ammo... in a house... in Conneticut... with an unstable 20 year old son who had full access to the arsenal.

blueandwhite

aerial wrote:

You do know that there are lots of unstable people in this world and you never know when one is going to show up.....as we see on the news everyday....

In spite of all of this, the US is the only developed nation I've been to that expresses such a strong personal attachment to their firearms. I've never owned a gun and all of my relatives that do own firearms use them exclusively for hunting. The notion that they might need a gun for self defence has not crossed their minds.

Now in fairness, if I was living in the United States I'm not sure how I would feel. I constantly hear Americans going on about how a gun makes them feel safer yet the US has a terrible record when it comes to gun violence. Yes, you have a lot of guns. I'm just not sure as to why you think that makes your lives safer.

Cosmo

blueandwhite wrote:

aerial wrote:

You do know that there are lots of unstable people in this world and you never know when one is going to show up.....as we see on the news everyday....

In spite of all of this, the US is the only developed nation I've been to that expresses such a strong personal attachment to their firearms. I've never owned a gun and all of my relatives that do own firearms use them exclusively for hunting. The notion that they might need a gun for self defence has not crossed their minds.

Now in fairness, if I was living in the United States I'm not sure how I would feel. I constantly hear Americans going on about how a gun makes them feel safer yet the US has a terrible record when it comes to gun violence. Yes, you have a lot of guns. I'm just not sure as to why you think that makes your lives safer.

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You mean... our Kindergartens would not be safer if every kindergarten teacher in America kept a loaded weapon in the classroom... like our NRA assures us of?

pjl44

Cosmo wrote:

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You mean... our Kindergartens would not be safer if every kindergarten teacher in America kept a loaded weapon in the classroom... like our NRA assures us of?

Important to note: the NRA isn't alone on that position:

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la ... 0900.story

blueandwhite

pjl44 wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

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You mean... our Kindergartens would not be safer if every kindergarten teacher in America kept a loaded weapon in the classroom... like our NRA assures us of?

Important to note: the NRA isn't alone on that position:

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la ... 0900.story

For a country that paints itself as being democratic and free, the US sometimes seems to be only a few steps away from fascism. Security in the guise of freedom? No thank you.

Then again, if guns are the answer perhaps you should simply start training your children with firearms from the time they enter school. If everybody (including the kids) has a gun then surely everybody will be safe.