Not to bring this thread back on topic or anything (god forbid), but can someone give some kind of definitive proof that he did use the assault rifle? There are both reports that he did (the medical examiner, most news outlets), and reports that he didn't (the 'car trunk' video and various websites). I'm fairly certain it was used, but there is a gun nut at my office who says the car trunk video is a gotcha moment showing the bias of the media, and that the examiner is obviously either incompetent or part of this 'conspiracy'. I'm not one to fall for that bs, but honestly I don't see anything good to refute his argument, other than to say that it's a stretch to think the examiner was wrong. What exactly was that rifle in the trunk and is there any other concrete proof that that or another assault rifle was used in the school?
The medical examiner said that all of the bodies he examined were killed by "the long gun." Since there was only one long gun found at the scene (the assault rifle), that would be the proof I think.
Right, but how does it explain the assault rifle being found in the trunk after the attack?
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Wasn't it the shotgun?
ref. http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/18/us/connecticut-lanza-guns/index.html
"(CNN) -- Adam Lanza brought three weapons inside Sandy Hook Elementary school on December 14 and left a fourth in his car, police said. Those weapons were a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle and two handguns -- a Glock 10 mm and a Sig Sauer 9 mm.
In the car he left a shotgun, about which police have offered no details. Lanza used one of the handguns to take his own life, although police haven't said whether the gun was the Glock or the Sig Sauer."
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Right, but how does it explain the assault rifle being found in the trunk after the attack?
I am assuming that the initial report about the gun being found in the truck of the car was wrong altogether... Another possibility is that he brought it back to the car before blowing his own brains out.
So I guess what I'm looking for is a specific report that says 1 assault rifle was found on the scene, and ANOTHER was found in the trunk of his car. If only 1 was found, and it was in the trunk after the murders, it would be hard to argue that it was used in the attacks, no?
No, since the car was parked right outside from where all the shooting happened. He would have had time to go out to his car before committing suicide. I think that the number of dead and the number of gun shot wounds make it pretty certain that it was the rifle that was used, just as the medical examiner said it was. If it was in the trunk of the car and the only rifle used, I think the guy ran out to his car (perhaps after running out of ammo in that gun?), ditch that weapon (who knows, maybe grabbed one of the hand guns too), ran back in and shot himself.
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The medical examiner said that all of the bodies he examined were killed by "the long gun." Since there was only one long gun found at the scene (the assault rifle), that would be the proof I think.
Right, but how does it explain the assault rifle being found in the trunk after the attack?
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Wasn't it the shotgun?
ref. http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/18/us/connecticut-lanza-guns/index.html
"(CNN) -- Adam Lanza brought three weapons inside Sandy Hook Elementary school on December 14 and left a fourth in his car, police said. Those weapons were a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle and two handguns -- a Glock 10 mm and a Sig Sauer 9 mm.
In the car he left a shotgun, about which police have offered no details. Lanza used one of the handguns to take his own life, although police haven't said whether the gun was the Glock or the Sig Sauer."
Ahh. There you go.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
The medical examiner said that all of the bodies he examined were killed by "the long gun." Since there was only one long gun found at the scene (the assault rifle), that would be the proof I think.
Right, but how does it explain the assault rifle being found in the trunk after the attack?
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Wasn't it the shotgun?
ref. http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/18/us/connecticut-lanza-guns/index.html
"(CNN) -- Adam Lanza brought three weapons inside Sandy Hook Elementary school on December 14 and left a fourth in his car, police said. Those weapons were a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle and two handguns -- a Glock 10 mm and a Sig Sauer 9 mm.
In the car he left a shotgun, about which police have offered no details. Lanza used one of the handguns to take his own life, although police haven't said whether the gun was the Glock or the Sig Sauer."
Thank you! I guess I could have probably found that on my own, but that's exactly what I was looking for, and makes the most sense. Speaking of sense, I'll see if that proof resonates with my gun friend.
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Right, but how does it explain the assault rifle being found in the trunk after the attack?
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Wasn't it the shotgun?
ref. http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/18/us/connecticut-lanza-guns/index.html
"(CNN) -- Adam Lanza brought three weapons inside Sandy Hook Elementary school on December 14 and left a fourth in his car, police said. Those weapons were a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle and two handguns -- a Glock 10 mm and a Sig Sauer 9 mm.
In the car he left a shotgun, about which police have offered no details. Lanza used one of the handguns to take his own life, although police haven't said whether the gun was the Glock or the Sig Sauer."
Ahh. There you go.
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It was also reported that the AR-15 was used to breech the locked doors at the school's entrance. It seems unreasonable to a rational human being with the tools of logic and critical thought process at his command to come to a conclusion where the murderer shoots out the locked glass doors... then, returns to the vehicle to secure the weapon... rather than taking the one weapon in his possession that has the greatest killing potential with him into the school. Logic and reason tells me that he shot out the doors and carried the weapon with him to commit the murderous acts.
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You DO realize that the report you posted was from 15December2012... correct? That was the morning after the murders.
Since that time, facts have surfaced to paint a clearer picture of what happened that day.
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Come on... you are smarter than that. These type of looney conspiracy theories does nothing but erode away your credibility. The 'Government' had no hand in either the killings nor the reporting... and what you are alleging falls into the ranks of the black helicopters, contrails of doom and George W. Bush evolving from reptiles lunacy.
Please, come back to planet Earth and make rational statements... based in truth and fact... like you used to do.
Given the Rahm Emmanuel quote he followed up with, I am curious to hear how the OP responds to several posts in this thread.
Thank you! I guess I could have probably found that on my own, but that's exactly what I was looking for, and makes the most sense. Speaking of sense, I'll see if that proof resonates with my gun friend.
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Not a problem.
Facts are hard to come by... especially during a chaotic event. Time... used to apply reason, thought and logic to evidence reveal the facts.
also... ask your gun friends what they would use if they had an AR-15, two 9mm pistols and a shot gun at their disposal. They will tell you... the one weapon with the highest kill rate is the AR-15. If they tell you otherwise... they are NOT gun people.
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1. Attacking another member will make your forum account read-only.
2. Gossiping about other members is a violation of the Posting Guidelines. Don't do it. It doesn't reflect positively on YOU.
3. Quoting the attack and/or gossip will result in your post being removed.
4. This thread may be closed again...old info refuted already? We'll see how the discussion goes.
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Thanx for that.
This is a good discussion on the media and guns as related to that awful tragedy in Newtown. It is a lesson in the media's hunger to jump the other news outlets on the 'Breaking News' and trying to use initial reports to solidify a position.
We, as thinking, rational people... need to understand this and step away from the sound bites, slogans and newslet clips of biased opinion and try to see these types of things in the light of truth... so, hopefully, we never have to re-live these events.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
ref. http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/18/us/connecticut-lanza-guns/index.html
"(CNN) -- Adam Lanza brought three weapons inside Sandy Hook Elementary school on December 14 and left a fourth in his car, police said. Those weapons were a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle and two handguns -- a Glock 10 mm and a Sig Sauer 9 mm.
In the car he left a shotgun, about which police have offered no details. Lanza used one of the handguns to take his own life, although police haven't said whether the gun was the Glock or the Sig Sauer."
Throughout this debate... I have been suggesting moderation (as most have). I have repeatedly promoted the shotgun as a weapon where citizens may arm themselves to defend against home invasion. It's telling that the shooter had no use for it this day when he was hell bent on mass killings: it was not going to be near as effective as the handguns and assault rifle. Defends the homeowner... cripples a shooter's chances for a mass slaughter: what's not to like?
Further... if people really think the home invasion is a legitimate threat given the percentages... why don't they place bars on their windows and use iron doors?
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I don't need to because I'm rightfully armed and able to defend myself...for now anyway.
And to address the person that hangs on my every word; I will NEVER believe that the official government story on anything is 100% truth. I hope you find sometime that you aren't so gullible.
And to address the person that hangs on my every word
:roll:
You started this thread and then ran away when it was pretty well proven to be based on a falsehood. Expecting a response shouldn't be too much to ask.
I will NEVER believe that the official government story on anything is 100% truth. I hope you find sometime that you aren't so gullible.
Much easier to play this card than it is to man up and say, "Maybe I was wrong that the assault rifle never left the car" isn't it?
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I believe facts were created in this and nearly any situation to fit an agenda. You can take any wild conspiracy theory vs. the official report and I'm sure the truth is always somewhere in between.
And I don't dwell on these forums every day, so next time I'll ask for your permission before I decide to participate in my non Internet forum life.
I don't need to because I'm rightfully armed and able to defend myself...for now anyway.
And to address the person that hangs on my every word; I will NEVER believe that the official government story on anything is 100% truth. I hope you find sometime that you aren't so gullible.
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So... correct me if I'm wrong... you don't buy the 'official' story presented after days of gathering evidence and investigating circunstances... But... you place 100% faith in the liberal media's initial reports that were reported/recorded as events unfolded?
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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I believe facts were created in this and nearly any situation to fit an agenda. You can take any wild conspiracy theory vs. the official report and I'm sure the truth is always somewhere in between.
The only facts created in this case were done so by a nut job with an assault rifle.
I believe facts were created in this and nearly any situation to fit an agenda. You can take any wild conspiracy theory vs. the official report and I'm sure the truth is always somewhere in between.
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what agenda??
27 people die...this is the agenda.....
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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I believe facts were created in this and nearly any situation to fit an agenda. You can take any wild conspiracy theory vs. the official report and I'm sure the truth is always somewhere in between.
Where are you getting this?? Police investigations aren't normally presenting evidence that is somewhere between the truth and a conspiracy theory... I think you have COMPLETELY lost the thread now. You really think the police investigators in Newtown have some kind of gun control agenda here? If so, you are the only conspiracy theorist - no one else.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I believe facts were created in this and nearly any situation to fit an agenda. You can take any wild conspiracy theory vs. the official report and I'm sure the truth is always somewhere in between.
Where are you getting this?? Police investigations aren't normally presenting evidence that is somewhere between the truth and a conspiracy theory... I think you have COMPLETELY lost the thread now. You really think the police investigators in Newtown have some kind of gun control agenda here? If so, you are the only conspiracy theorist - no one else.
Its the first phase of spinning it into "you're sheep if you believe everything you hear!" instead of possibly realizing that it could be false that the Bushmaster was left in the car.
There must have been dozens, if not hundreds of officials on the scene in CT...but a conspiracy, or plot to mislead the public as to where the Bushmaster was, is feasible (thats sarcasm ).
I believe facts were created in this and nearly any situation to fit an agenda. You can take any wild conspiracy theory vs. the official report and I'm sure the truth is always somewhere in between.
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Facts... are not created. They exist (or do not exist), in and of themselves. If 'facts' are created to describe an incorrect picture, they are not facts.
The facts are... a lone 20 year old man shot his way past locked glass doors and proceeded to murder 26 people... after murdering his mother. 4 weapons were found on scene. 3 of the weapons were recovered from the killing zone, one from the murderer's vehicle. The main weapon used was found with 3 spent 30 round magazines and a fourth with an unreported number of remaining rounds. The murderer took his own life with one of the two 9mm pistols, specifics on which weapon was used are unreported.
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What we don't know... is why. That is where we can only speculate because those facts are difficult to come by.
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P.S. The truth behind 'Black Helicopters' is they are military helicopters (typically Sikorsky UH-60 (Blackhawks) or MD Helicopters MH-6 (Mini Birds or Killer Eggs)) painted black.
So, yes, it is true... even the looniest of conspiracies contain some truth.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
I believe facts were created in this and nearly any situation to fit an agenda. You can take any wild conspiracy theory vs. the official report and I'm sure the truth is always somewhere in between.
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Facts... are not created. They exist (or do not exist), in and of themselves. If 'facts' are created to describe an incorrect picture, they are not facts.
The facts are... a lone 20 year old man shot his way past locked glass doors and proceeded to murder 26 people... after murdering his mother. 4 weapons were found on scene. 3 of the weapons were recovered from the killing zone, one from the murderer's vehicle. The main weapon used was found with 3 spent 30 round magazines and a fourth with an unreported number of remaining rounds. The murderer took his own life with one of the two 9mm pistols, specifics on which weapon was used are unreported.
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What we don't know... is why. That is where we can only speculate because those facts are difficult to come by.
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P.S. The truth behind 'Black Helicopters' is they are military helicopters (typically Sikorsky UH-60 (Blackhawks) or MD Helicopters MH-6 (Mini Birds or Killer Eggs)) painted black.
So, yes, it is true... even the looniest of conspiracies contain some truth.
UNSUNG was right all along and he got bashed by most all replies. ...
They finally had to come out and admit it, now that the Coroner has released some info along with Police. An AR-15 Rifle or the so-called "Assault Weapon" was not used in the school shooting. The shooter even tried weeks earlier to buy a Rifle but was turned down in the background check. So he had to kill his Mother to steal her rifle. There were initial reports right after the shooting, that Police found the AR-15 Rifle in his car, NOT IN THE SCHOOL. The Rifle was not used. The Shooter went into the school with 4 handguns. Not an Assault Rifle as the media/AMT has charged.
I remember in the initial hours of this shooting, the Police said they found the Rifle in the car. But the News Media had a Pre-Planned Attack already waiting, to ban so-called assault weapons and jumped on that line of reporting, knowing it was a lie. Including people like Piers Morgan who said the shooter used an AR-15 that shoots hundreds of rounds per minute, as if it were a machinegun. Could it be that the Democrat Liberals and the Media were pushing for the new law, hoping they could do it, before the Coroner released the info.
UNSUNG was right all along and he got bashed by most all replies. ...
They finally had to come out and admit it, now that the Coroner has released some info along with Police. An AR-15 Rifle or the so-called "Assault Weapon" was not used in the school shooting. The shooter even tried weeks earlier to buy a Rifle but was turned down in the background check. So he had to kill his Mother to steal her rifle. There were initial reports right after the shooting, that Police found the AR-15 Rifle in his car, NOT IN THE SCHOOL. The Rifle was not used. The Shooter went into the school with 4 handguns. Not an Assault Rifle as the media/AMT has charged.
I remember in the initial hours of this shooting, the Police said they found the Rifle in the car. But the News Media had a Pre-Planned Attack already waiting, to ban so-called assault weapons and jumped on that line of reporting, knowing it was a lie. Including people like Piers Morgan who said the shooter used an AR-15 that shoots hundreds of rounds per minute, as if it were a machinegun. Could it be that the Democrat Liberals and the Media were pushing for the new law, hoping they could do it, before the Coroner released the info.
but the bullet left the gun and kill the children..
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
UNSUNG was right all along and he got bashed by most all replies. ...
They finally had to come out and admit it, now that the Coroner has released some info along with Police. An AR-15 Rifle or the so-called "Assault Weapon" was not used in the school shooting. The shooter even tried weeks earlier to buy a Rifle but was turned down in the background check. So he had to kill his Mother to steal her rifle. There were initial reports right after the shooting, that Police found the AR-15 Rifle in his car, NOT IN THE SCHOOL. The Rifle was not used. The Shooter went into the school with 4 handguns. Not an Assault Rifle as the media/AMT has charged.
I remember in the initial hours of this shooting, the Police said they found the Rifle in the car. But the News Media had a Pre-Planned Attack already waiting, to ban so-called assault weapons and jumped on that line of reporting, knowing it was a lie. Including people like Piers Morgan who said the shooter used an AR-15 that shoots hundreds of rounds per minute, as if it were a machinegun. Could it be that the Democrat Liberals and the Media were pushing for the new law, hoping they could do it, before the Coroner released the info.
I was curious about the firing rate of a semi-auto ar-15. I found this video: (with Queen remix) He lets loose at 1:50. My guess is that the rate with this technique would go into the hundreds per minute.
UNSUNG was right all along and he got bashed by most all replies. ...
They finally had to come out and admit it, now that the Coroner has released some info along with Police. An AR-15 Rifle or the so-called "Assault Weapon" was not used in the school shooting. The shooter even tried weeks earlier to buy a Rifle but was turned down in the background check. So he had to kill his Mother to steal her rifle. There were initial reports right after the shooting, that Police found the AR-15 Rifle in his car, NOT IN THE SCHOOL. The Rifle was not used. The Shooter went into the school with 4 handguns. Not an Assault Rifle as the media/AMT has charged.
I remember in the initial hours of this shooting, the Police said they found the Rifle in the car. But the News Media had a Pre-Planned Attack already waiting, to ban so-called assault weapons and jumped on that line of reporting, knowing it was a lie. Including people like Piers Morgan who said the shooter used an AR-15 that shoots hundreds of rounds per minute, as if it were a machinegun. Could it be that the Democrat Liberals and the Media were pushing for the new law, hoping they could do it, before the Coroner released the info.
I was curious about the firing rate of a semi-auto ar-15. I found this video: (with Queen remix) He lets loose at 1:50. My guess is that the rate with this technique would go into the hundreds per minute.
Just a freaking ridiculous weapon for citizens to be in possession of. Absolutely ridiculous.
Agreed. Don't get me wrong, it would be cool to have one, but it's completely uneeded in ANY capacity.
btw, I do not own any guns. (even though i've been advised by both a judge, and multiple police officers to purchase one due to someone from my girlfriends past that keeps popping up and has a violent history)
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Wasn't it the shotgun?
ref. http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/18/us/connecticut-lanza-guns/index.html
"(CNN) -- Adam Lanza brought three weapons inside Sandy Hook Elementary school on December 14 and left a fourth in his car, police said. Those weapons were a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle and two handguns -- a Glock 10 mm and a Sig Sauer 9 mm.
In the car he left a shotgun, about which police have offered no details. Lanza used one of the handguns to take his own life, although police haven't said whether the gun was the Glock or the Sig Sauer."
Hail, Hail!!!
Thank you! I guess I could have probably found that on my own, but that's exactly what I was looking for, and makes the most sense. Speaking of sense, I'll see if that proof resonates with my gun friend.
nowadays hits you when you're young
It was also reported that the AR-15 was used to breech the locked doors at the school's entrance. It seems unreasonable to a rational human being with the tools of logic and critical thought process at his command to come to a conclusion where the murderer shoots out the locked glass doors... then, returns to the vehicle to secure the weapon... rather than taking the one weapon in his possession that has the greatest killing potential with him into the school. Logic and reason tells me that he shot out the doors and carried the weapon with him to commit the murderous acts.
Hail, Hail!!!
Given the Rahm Emmanuel quote he followed up with, I am curious to hear how the OP responds to several posts in this thread.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Not a problem.
Facts are hard to come by... especially during a chaotic event. Time... used to apply reason, thought and logic to evidence reveal the facts.
also... ask your gun friends what they would use if they had an AR-15, two 9mm pistols and a shot gun at their disposal. They will tell you... the one weapon with the highest kill rate is the AR-15. If they tell you otherwise... they are NOT gun people.
Hail, Hail!!!
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2. Gossiping about other members is a violation of the Posting Guidelines. Don't do it. It doesn't reflect positively on YOU.
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4. This thread may be closed again...old info refuted already? We'll see how the discussion goes.
Thanx for that.
This is a good discussion on the media and guns as related to that awful tragedy in Newtown. It is a lesson in the media's hunger to jump the other news outlets on the 'Breaking News' and trying to use initial reports to solidify a position.
We, as thinking, rational people... need to understand this and step away from the sound bites, slogans and newslet clips of biased opinion and try to see these types of things in the light of truth... so, hopefully, we never have to re-live these events.
Hail, Hail!!!
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Throughout this debate... I have been suggesting moderation (as most have). I have repeatedly promoted the shotgun as a weapon where citizens may arm themselves to defend against home invasion. It's telling that the shooter had no use for it this day when he was hell bent on mass killings: it was not going to be near as effective as the handguns and assault rifle. Defends the homeowner... cripples a shooter's chances for a mass slaughter: what's not to like?
Further... if people really think the home invasion is a legitimate threat given the percentages... why don't they place bars on their windows and use iron doors?
And to address the person that hangs on my every word; I will NEVER believe that the official government story on anything is 100% truth. I hope you find sometime that you aren't so gullible.
:roll:
You started this thread and then ran away when it was pretty well proven to be based on a falsehood. Expecting a response shouldn't be too much to ask.
Much easier to play this card than it is to man up and say, "Maybe I was wrong that the assault rifle never left the car" isn't it?
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
And I don't dwell on these forums every day, so next time I'll ask for your permission before I decide to participate in my non Internet forum life.
So... correct me if I'm wrong... you don't buy the 'official' story presented after days of gathering evidence and investigating circunstances... But... you place 100% faith in the liberal media's initial reports that were reported/recorded as events unfolded?
Hail, Hail!!!
The only facts created in this case were done so by a nut job with an assault rifle.
Again... :roll:
Own your words.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
27 people die...this is the agenda.....
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Its the first phase of spinning it into "you're sheep if you believe everything you hear!" instead of possibly realizing that it could be false that the Bushmaster was left in the car.
There must have been dozens, if not hundreds of officials on the scene in CT...but a conspiracy, or plot to mislead the public as to where the Bushmaster was, is feasible (thats sarcasm
Facts... are not created. They exist (or do not exist), in and of themselves. If 'facts' are created to describe an incorrect picture, they are not facts.
The facts are... a lone 20 year old man shot his way past locked glass doors and proceeded to murder 26 people... after murdering his mother. 4 weapons were found on scene. 3 of the weapons were recovered from the killing zone, one from the murderer's vehicle. The main weapon used was found with 3 spent 30 round magazines and a fourth with an unreported number of remaining rounds. The murderer took his own life with one of the two 9mm pistols, specifics on which weapon was used are unreported.
...
What we don't know... is why. That is where we can only speculate because those facts are difficult to come by.
...
P.S. The truth behind 'Black Helicopters' is they are military helicopters (typically Sikorsky UH-60 (Blackhawks) or MD Helicopters MH-6 (Mini Birds or Killer Eggs)) painted black.
So, yes, it is true... even the looniest of conspiracies contain some truth.
Hail, Hail!!!
Well actually i think you'll find this is the real truth http://zapatopi.net/blackhelicopters/
Okay. I'm convinced now.
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Where's my tinfoil hat?
Hail, Hail!!!
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"...I changed by not changing at all..."
They finally had to come out and admit it, now that the Coroner has released some info along with Police. An AR-15 Rifle or the so-called "Assault Weapon" was not used in the school shooting. The shooter even tried weeks earlier to buy a Rifle but was turned down in the background check. So he had to kill his Mother to steal her rifle. There were initial reports right after the shooting, that Police found the AR-15 Rifle in his car, NOT IN THE SCHOOL. The Rifle was not used. The Shooter went into the school with 4 handguns. Not an Assault Rifle as the media/AMT has charged.
I remember in the initial hours of this shooting, the Police said they found the Rifle in the car. But the News Media had a Pre-Planned Attack already waiting, to ban so-called assault weapons and jumped on that line of reporting, knowing it was a lie. Including people like Piers Morgan who said the shooter used an AR-15 that shoots hundreds of rounds per minute, as if it were a machinegun. Could it be that the Democrat Liberals and the Media were pushing for the new law, hoping they could do it, before the Coroner released the info.
I'm betting on it.
http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/ ... 5#50208495
Are you betting on it or do you have proof? And a link more recent than December 15th?
And why would anyone want to bet on what killed 26 innocent people?
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
I will try harder.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I was curious about the firing rate of a semi-auto ar-15. I found this video: (with Queen remix) He lets loose at 1:50. My guess is that the rate with this technique would go into the hundreds per minute.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD213VW6WjY
I won't really comment on your suggestion of a conspiracy for a new law.
Just a freaking ridiculous weapon for citizens to be in possession of. Absolutely ridiculous.
Agreed. Don't get me wrong, it would be cool to have one, but it's completely uneeded in ANY capacity.
btw, I do not own any guns. (even though i've been advised by both a judge, and multiple police officers to purchase one due to someone from my girlfriends past that keeps popping up and has a violent history)
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel