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seanwon said:

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seanwon said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

mace1229 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

seanwon said:

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seanwon said:

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Kind of quiet here about this one. 8 kids slaughtered.  How come, where is the outrage?

Never mind, I think I figured it out.  

Did you then? did you figure out there has been far less traffic on amt for a month or more now? did you figure out this story is posted on the previous page? 

did you ?

did you?

as if we are supposed to post every single mass shooting on here and talk about how bad it sucks and how we need to do something about the guns or the mental health.

clowns come around trying to tell us what to be outraged about while supporting trump. 

seanwon should spare us the faux outrage on this one.

I'm a Liberal, just not an indoctrinated racist Leftist.  There's millions of us sick of Dems like you...that's why we won't vote with you any longer.  You aren't even bright enough to realize I only starting posting here pointing out black gun crime because you [name calling removed by admin] claimed we have a "white gun problem" and we should take guns away from white people.  Stop embarrassing yourself.  josevolution said:

seanwon said:

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Kind of quiet here about this one. 8 kids slaughtered.  How come, where is the outrage?

Never mind, I think I figured it out.  

Pathetic post! Maybe just maybe we’re sick and tired of trying to express the same outrage most of us have expressed here for years! To me it doesn’t matter who the shooter is what color or gender they are. So go and gaslight somewhere else! Where’s your outrage about the bombing of the school in Iran that killed over 100 children? 

I'm not an overemotional Leftist, I don't get outraged by things I can't control and have nothing to do with.  Leads to stress, high blood pressure, misery.....

How do you guys feel about the Christian genocide in Africa.  Bahhhh, doesn't check a box, who cares?

Gern Blansten said:

seanwon said:

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Kind of quiet here about this one. 8 kids slaughtered.  How come, where is the outrage?

Never mind, I think I figured it out.  

you're just mad that it wasn't at a school...

Come on!  Only white guys shoot up schools....

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here ya go buddy.

https://rockinst.org/gun-violence/mass-shooting-factsheet/

definition- a  mass shooting is an incident of targeted violence carried out by one or more shooters at one or more public or populated locations. Multiple victims (both injuries and fatalities) are associated with the attack, and both the victims and location(s) are chosen either at random or for their symbolic value. The event occurs within a single 24-hour period, though most attacks typically last only a few minutes. The motivation of the shooting must not correlate with gang violence or targeted militant or terroristic activity.

74% carried out by handguns

54.8% of shooters are white
shooters are 95.4% male
average age 34.5 years

I've never heard that definition before. Why exclude gang violence? 
Is it so they can skew the numbers? I honestly can't think of another reason to exclude it. 
Also, excluding terroristic motives seems dumb to me. Some of the most notorious mass shootings were forms of terrorism. Pulse Night club wasn't a mass shooting then?

you would have to ask the rockefeller institute of government. they provided the definition.

i would imagine terrorism, in the sense of something like 9/11 has external funding or is state sponsored and i can see how they would separate that from regular mass shooting incidents that we see basically daily here in the us. 

things like pulse could be just a mass shooting or it could be terrorism because it targeted a specific group of people. the las vegas shooter at that concert was a mass shooting. there were no specific targets from what i remember. just country music fans. pulse could be terrorism because it targeted the lgbtq community. 

but please to not lose the point of the post, being the stats provided at the bottom of it, to rebut seanwon's "post".

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Sigh.  Thanks for the unnecessary statistics my friends.  Where in my post did I mention anything about mass shootings? Total gun homicides.... that's all.  50% suicide.  25% by one demographic.  25% by all others in the country.   None of you have learned at all.  We already settled this a long time ago in this thread.  You Leftists really suffer from white guilt that bad? Or just indoctrinated? Both? See you soon I suppose. Apparently, my work isn't done here.....

Catch me up to speed. What’s the work you’re trying to do and what do we need to learn regarding race and gun violence? 

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Trying to get Liberals to be Liberals again, rather than Radical Leftists who view everything through the lens of race. Let's get back to reality here.  Manipulating statistics, ignoring others that don't suit the agenda. Falsely blaming 55+% of the population for gun deaths when they commit less than 25% of it.  The demographics of gun deaths in the US are very clear, look at actual government statistics.  Why are people creating a false narrative?  Look at Gimme's "study" up there! Let's eliminate gun violence from gangs and terrorism, then look at what is left!  By God we have a white mass shooting   

Post Intermission: By the way Gimme, even according to your laughable "study", 54.8% of mass shooters are white.  That's less than the percentage of whites that comprise the US population.  Even with biased, manipulated numbers that exclude many mass shootings, you still came up short.  

problem folks!  I actually did my own study, and I excluded gangs, terrorism, blacks, whites and Hispanics.  I have some devastating news for you all.  We have an Asian gun problem in this country!!!  Long story short, this nonsense is why millions of us have decided to no longer support Democrats.  And that's why we got stuck with Trump again...with the popular vote no less.  So.....what are we doing here?  Shooting ( <----- HA! )  ourselves in the foot?

Maybe consider that there’s value in looking at the sub categories of gun violence, and it’s not ‘manipulating statistics’. This can include: gun violence by race, gun violence in domestic violence situations, acquaintance vs stranger,   gun violence by age, sex, within gangs, mass shootings, school shootings, geographic area, city vs city, types of guns used, etc. 

I think there’s false narratives around gun violence, so sometimes presenting facts that run counter to these can be seen as pushing an agenda or attempting to deflect. 

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86% of successful and non-successful US presidential assassins were white, vastly overrepresentin' their total percentage of the whole population, so there is that.