America has lost its mind

dimitrispearljam

im thinking...this type of shit,should be an exeptions in a society....at a country...
but seems all this is just a usual day at USA...so frikkin sad..

brianlux

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

he had the same gun as the newtown shooter...

William Spengler, Killer Of 2 New York Firemen, Had Bushmaster Semiautomatic Rifle

No matter what anyone's personal take is on gun ownership (I've said it before- I'm against having them but some people I'm very close to are not) there is no reason for anyone to own weaponry like this one pictured. None. The defense of ownership of weapons like this is sick and sickening.

goingtoverona

yeah i feel the exact same way about you, merry christmas yo.

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

goingtoverona wrote:

oh man, terrible tragedy just terrible. i wanted to point out that this asshole was convicted of beating his grandmother to death with a hammer in 1980. personally i blame a pathetic justice system for allowing this guy to be out on the streets. i mean really? you beat your grandmother to death with a hammer and you're out of jail in less than 20 years? you're absolutely right, america has lost it's mind.

You are suggesting a proactive maneuver... and a very reasonable one. If what you have presented is factual... he would have been dead (via capital punishment) in my mind.

Verona... we are in disagreement over the gun control issue. I really don't like your position... but I have nothing against you. Have a great day with whoever you are spending it with.

RFTC

dimitrispearljam wrote:

im thinking...this type of shit,should be an exeptions in a society....at a country...
but seems all this is just a usual day at USA...so frikkin sad..

yep, usa and yemen ARE the lowest common denominators when it comes to gun violence. throw in pakistan and we are in really good company fellow americans.

Thoughts_Arrive

Seems like the NRA are a cancer to American society, they need to be removed.

DS1119

chadwick wrote:

piece of garbage monster beats him grandma to death w/ a hammer. serves 17 years out of a 20 year sentence. now this... good job new york state for not keeping him behind bars. good job for not offing this nasty cold bastard.

Pretty much this.

DS1119

I wonder how many unfortunate souls will lose their lives and their families will be suffering over the Holidays due to drunk drivers? We'll probably never know without some digging. The press will never make those tragedies National headlines.

Moonpig

usamamasan1 wrote:

Post 1-5 typical AMT

Then, three posts of reason.







Then more poops


America has not lost its mind. Open the door and walk outside. Don't judge America by the lowest common denominator. Remember that everyone's vote counts the same, but not everyone does the same.

Woot

Wow,am I to assume now then that you have altered your opinion on Muslims and the Middle East given your new found logic, please see above in bolded.

Or is this contrite attempt at "fair and balanced" only applicable to what you consider to be a white christian nation?

Moonpig

DS1119 wrote:

My hearts go out to this whacko's family. Horrible story. But anyone who thinks that this can be made into some argument against guns...well I would just say this is the reason why capital punishment should be supported.

"William Spengler had served more than 17 years in prison for beating his 92-year-old grandmother to death in 1980 at the house next to where Monday's attack happened".


He beat his 92 year old grandmother to death and he only served 17 years for that? If the government didn't fail us the first time around in serving justice this whacko would have never been able to do this crap again. :x

So what you are saying, and have been spouting since those 20 kids were slaughtered is; how mental health cases are handeled needs to be reviewed, video game censorship should be stricter, violence in the media to be looked at, the judicial system overhauled.....but gun control, that's ok!!!

Not one cognitive argument has been made as to how the rest of the developed world manages to deal with all these issues, along with stricter gun control and yet experiences no where near the same violence. But then, it must be said, not all populations contain the same level of indifference towards those that require the most protection.

blueandwhite

DS1119 wrote:

I wonder how many unfortunate souls will lose their lives and their families will be suffering over the Holidays due to drunk drivers? We'll probably never know without some digging. The press will never make those tragedies National headlines.

I wonder how many gun advocates will continue to redirect conversations about gun violence to issues such as alcoholism and substance abuse? I suppose that anything that deflects attention from gun violence works just as well. Unfortunately, the fact that there are other tragedies in the US doesn't diminish the impact of gun violence on your society. These shootings aren't isolated acts; these are everyday events that are horrifying to many people. The fact that people are irresponsible with alcohol isn't okay. It doesn't make the firearms issue go away either.

dimitrispearljam

blueandwhite wrote:

I wonder how many gun advocates will continue to redirect conversations about gun violence to issues such as alcoholism and substance abuse? I suppose that anything that deflects attention from gun violence works just as well. Unfortunately, the fact that there are other tragedies in the US doesn't diminish the impact of gun violence on your society. These shootings aren't isolated acts; these are everyday events that are horrifying to many people. The fact that people are irresponsible with alcohol isn't okay. It doesn't make the firearms issue go away either.

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great post, thank you for use common sense and say something we all know..

JimmyV

Moonpig wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

My hearts go out to this whacko's family. Horrible story. But anyone who thinks that this can be made into some argument against guns...well I would just say this is the reason why capital punishment should be supported.

"William Spengler had served more than 17 years in prison for beating his 92-year-old grandmother to death in 1980 at the house next to where Monday's attack happened".


He beat his 92 year old grandmother to death and he only served 17 years for that? If the government didn't fail us the first time around in serving justice this whacko would have never been able to do this crap again. :x

So what you are saying, and have been spouting since those 20 kids were slaughtered is; how mental health cases are handeled needs to be reviewed, video game censorship should be stricter, violence in the media to be looked at, the judicial system overhauled.....but gun control, that's ok!!!

Not one cognitive argument has been made as to how the rest of the developed world manages to deal with all these issues, along with stricter gun control and yet experiences no where near the same violence. But then, it must be said, not all populations contain the same level of indifference towards those that require the most protection.

You forgot the marijuana argument. That one was a particularly blatant attempt at distraction.

fear4freedom

Take God out of the culture and you are "Fucked" as some say! Simple as that!

Bring back God into our classrooms! I call for a Constitutional Ammendment to create a general prayer for everyone's God, to implement as a National Prayer.

It might sound something like this.

Dear God, we are coming together here today to call on you to provide the world with the love, empathy and wisdom to overcome all evil. We give you all the glory and praise and we thank you for everything you do for us. We come together as ONE HUMAN FAMILY and ask you to bless our country today. You are the one that has provided this great nation to us and we will continue to fight for individual liberty and freedom for all mankind. We pray for the world's people a

JimmyV

fear4freedom wrote:

Take God out of the culture and you are "Fucked" as some say! Simple as that!

Bring back God into our classrooms! I call for a Constitutional Ammendment to create a general prayer for everyone's God, to implement as a National Prayer.

It might sound something like this.

Dear God, we are coming together here today to call on you to provide the world with the love, empathy and wisdom to overcome all evil. We give you all the glory and praise and we thank you for everything you do for us. We come together as ONE HUMAN FAMILY and ask you to bless our country today. You are the one that has provided this great nation to us and we will continue to fight for individual liberty and freedom for all mankind. We pray for the world's people a

I call for this to never happen ever. Would vote against it and happily donate money to see it struck down.

You are free to worship any god you wish. Do not try and force it on anyone else's children, or to use the federal government to advance your Christian agenda.

fear4freedom

JimmyV wrote:

fear4freedom wrote:

Take God out of the culture and you are "Fucked" as some say! Simple as that!

Bring back God into our classrooms! I call for a Constitutional Ammendment to create a general prayer for everyone's God, to implement as a National Prayer.

It might sound something like this.

Dear God, we are coming together here today to call on you to provide the world with the love, empathy and wisdom to overcome all evil. We give you all the glory and praise and we thank you for everything you do for us. We come together as ONE HUMAN FAMILY and ask you to bless our country today. You are the one that has provided this great nation to us and we will continue to fight for individual liberty and freedom for all mankind. We pray for the world's people a

I call for this to never happen ever. Would vote against it and happily donate money to see it struck down.

You are free to worship any god you wish. Do not try and force it on anyone else's children, or to use the federal government to advance your Christian agenda.

The end of the prayer does not say "In Jesus Name" this is a general prayer that speaks to GOD! Everyone is a child of the same God! Got it?

unsung

More liberal policies get this man released from prison early. Should have never seen the sun as a free man.

JimmyV

fear4freedom wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

fear4freedom wrote:

Take God out of the culture and you are "Fucked" as some say! Simple as that!

Bring back God into our classrooms! I call for a Constitutional Ammendment to create a general prayer for everyone's God, to implement as a National Prayer.

It might sound something like this.

Dear God, we are coming together here today to call on you to provide the world with the love, empathy and wisdom to overcome all evil. We give you all the glory and praise and we thank you for everything you do for us. We come together as ONE HUMAN FAMILY and ask you to bless our country today. You are the one that has provided this great nation to us and we will continue to fight for individual liberty and freedom for all mankind. We pray for the world's people a

I call for this to never happen ever. Would vote against it and happily donate money to see it struck down.

You are free to worship any god you wish. Do not try and force it on anyone else's children, or to use the federal government to advance your Christian agenda.

The end of the prayer does not say "In Jesus Name" this is a general prayer that speaks to GOD! Everyone is a child of the same God! Got it?

Everyone is a child of the same god in your opinion and belief. If that gives you comfort then more power to you. Stop trying to force it on other people.

JimmyV

unsung wrote:

More liberal policies get this man released from prison early. Should have never seen the sun as a free man.

Nor should he have still been in prison after his final appeal was heard. This guy is a great example of why I am pro-death penalty. I think it is used too often and in cases where there is a shadow of doubt, but that does not mean it should not be used at all.

Kill your grandmother with a hammer and we keep you alive? Hell no.

Abe Froman

fear4freedom wrote:

Take God out of the culture and you are "Fucked" as some say! Simple as that!

Bring back God into our classrooms! I call for a Constitutional Ammendment to create a general prayer for everyone's God, to implement as a National Prayer.

It might sound something like this.

Dear God, we are coming together here today to call on you to provide the world with the love, empathy and wisdom to overcome all evil. We give you all the glory and praise and we thank you for everything you do for us. We come together as ONE HUMAN FAMILY and ask you to bless our country today. You are the one that has provided this great nation to us and we will continue to fight for individual liberty and freedom for all mankind. We pray for the world's people a

And this is going to solve problems??? Uh, ok. :roll: Good luck with that.

DS1119

The more everyone just focuses on guns the further we drift away. It's not a gun issue its a society issue. Penalizing gun owners for the VERY few kooks out there is so irresponsible and the more the media keeps firing up this ridiculous issue the further they push their liberal agenda.

Lets sum up this case in brutal honesty. Some idiot kills his grandmother in cold blood with a hammer. Goes to prison for 17 years. Ten or however more years later he obtains guns ILLEGALLY, sets his house on fire and shoots the firefighters. Yes increased gun legislation would have stopped all of this from happening. :roll: Yet the media puts this story out there just to fuel this debate and push their agendas.

I did a google search and just pulled the first story. Guy kills his 7 year old son and himself in a drunk driving accident. Also in the accident he kills another couple who have 4 children of their own. Two of them are still in critical condition. Four people killed 2 days before Christmas. Where's the huge headlines for this? This was the first story. There's pages and pages more of drunk driving fatalities for this year alone just for Christmas.


http://bossip.com/701868/santa-take-the ... stmas-eve/


But let's direct what this kook did into a rally for increased gun support. A convicted murderer who should never been spared his life besides being let out of prison. He obtains guns illegally....but increased gun regulation on legal citizens makes perfect sense. :fp: