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The 12/12/12 Concert

DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
edited December 2012 in A Moving Train
I find it humorous that when the US has a natural disaster we have to parade out a bunch of bands and singers to try and raise money from our own citizens and the rest of the World for help but when other countries have a natural disaster the first country they look to for "humanitarian" help is the US. I remember just last year commercials running in this country to help out Japan with relief for what happened to them. I wonder how many commercials have been running in Japan for us? :lol:
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    On a sidenote, the Red Cross has $78M in unspent donations for Sandy.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/brushing-off-criticism-red-cross-shifts-phase-sandy-172912715.html

    As the artilcle mentions, this is a drop in the bucket compared to the $60 Billion the Feds have alloted.

    (guess I ended up donating to the Sandy relief afterall :think: )
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    japan (surrounded by water) wrote us a letter the day after sandy saying..."ワインのリストを見せて頂けませんか"
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    JC29856 wrote:
    japan (surrounded by water) wrote us a letter the day after sandy saying..."ワインのリストを見せて頂けませんか"
    Do you prefer red or white?
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    It's sad and very hypocritical. Foreign countries sit around bashing the US and the protection it affords them but when shit hits the fan we are the first place they look.
  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    Paul McCartney & Nirvana Reunion
    You read that right.
    Paul McCartney FRONTING Nirvana.

    !!! ??? !!! ??? !!!
    ***REALLY*** NOT SURE ABOUT THIS.
    Hmmm :/:/:/
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Maybe Fox News can attack this event as a pro-Obama show like they did the Sandy telethon show that was on right after the storm.. Jackasses...
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    What would Paul sing of Nirvana's?? Should be interesting.
  • dancepartnerdancepartner Posts: 324
    (Checking to see if my avatar works) :D
    I've always felt (since we're in neck deep debt) we should start charging for our worldy assistance. Sure we can donate our time but it's not cheap manning the great US ships & planes that are spirited off from one disaster to the next. And don't even get me started on the world police role our men and women play and often lose their lives to.
  • dancepartnerdancepartner Posts: 324
    huh? where's my avatar?
  • dancepartnerdancepartner Posts: 324
    again... :roll:
    damn....
  • riotgrlriotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    Jason P wrote:
    JC29856 wrote:
    japan (surrounded by water) wrote us a letter the day after sandy saying..."ワインのリストを見せて頂けませんか"
    Do you prefer red or white?

    Well, since Billy Joel will be there it will be rosé :lol:
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

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  • Dirtie_FrankDirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    blackredyellow wrote:
    Maybe Fox News can attack this event as a pro-Obama show like they did the Sandy telethon show that was on right after the storm.. Jackasses...

    Or maybe Kanye can say Obama hates Guidos.
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    DS1119 wrote:
    I find it humorous that when the US has a natural disaster we have to parade out a bunch of bands and singers to try and raise money from our own citizens and the rest of the World for help but when other countries have a natural disaster the first country they look to for "humanitarian" help is the US. I remember just last year commercials running in this country to help out Japan with relief for what happened to them. I wonder how many commercials have been running in Japan for us? :lol:

    I don't know either. I know it was a big deal here in HK and the media was all over it to help the US.

    It's more fun to be in the US and to speculate and be bitter though w/o knowing.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,963
    edited December 2012
    DS1119 wrote:
    It's sad and very hypocritical. Foreign countries sit around bashing the US and the protection it affords them but when shit hits the fan we are the first place they look.
    I actually see it as a fault of the US (and Canada), not of the other nations'. The US is the one doling it out. One can't expect others not to take it or even ask for it during times of need. It is the decision of the US and the US alone to give it to them or not. If you think there is blame to be laid anywhere, it should be laid on the US government, not the countries who take the aid.

    I am all for helping people out, but when countries have MASSIVE debt, I don't think the government should be offering ANY aid to anyone. If individuals want to send donations for it that is wonderful, and North Americans are amazingly generous that way, but I disagree with governments giving foreign aid with tax dollars when they are buried in trillions of dollars of debt.
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  • fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
    DS1119 wrote:
    I find it humorous that when the US has a natural disaster we have to parade out a bunch of bands and singers to try and raise money from our own citizens and the rest of the World for help but when other countries have a natural disaster the first country they look to for "humanitarian" help is the US. I remember just last year commercials running in this country to help out Japan with relief for what happened to them. I wonder how many commercials have been running in Japan for us? :lol:

    Exactly which is why America is exceptional! We helped Haiti so much you cannot measure! We also helped Japan so much you cannot measure and most dont see how much we do. Thanks for seeing it! We do alot for others, all over this world.
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  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    Jeanwah wrote:
    What would Paul sing of Nirvana's?? Should be interesting.
    :shock:
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    CH156378 wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    What would Paul sing of Nirvana's?? Should be interesting.
    :shock:

    It's a new song...just written, so it's just members of nirvana with McCartney.
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  • belinda27belinda27 Posts: 731
    DS1119 wrote:
    It's sad and very hypocritical. Foreign countries sit around bashing the US and the protection it affords them but when shit hits the fan we are the first place they look.
    http://www.heritage.org/research/report ... -oil-spill :?
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    belinda27 wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    It's sad and very hypocritical. Foreign countries sit around bashing the US and the protection it affords them but when shit hits the fan we are the first place they look.
    http://www.heritage.org/research/report ... -oil-spill :?


    You did read the article correct? Even with all of it's misleading statements? :fp:
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,488
    DS1119 wrote:
    I remember just last year commercials running in this country to help out Japan with relief for what happened to them. I wonder how many commercials have been running in Japan for us? :lol:

    And funny you mention that. Open your wallets people!

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/de ... uake-funds
  • belinda27belinda27 Posts: 731
    DS1119 wrote:
    belinda27 wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    It's sad and very hypocritical. Foreign countries sit around bashing the US and the protection it affords them but when shit hits the fan we are the first place they look.
    http://www.heritage.org/research/report ... -oil-spill :?


    You did read the article correct? Even with all of it's misleading statements? :fp:
    You are right. I should have put more thought in to it. I am sorry.
  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    DS1119 wrote:
    I find it humorous that when the US has a natural disaster we have to parade out a bunch of bands and singers to try and raise money from our own citizens and the rest of the World for help but when other countries have a natural disaster the first country they look to for "humanitarian" help is the US. I remember just last year commercials running in this country to help out Japan with relief for what happened to them. I wonder how many commercials have been running in Japan for us? :lol:

    As generous as the US has been regarding some events throughout the world... I think it is fair to say that the US spends a great deal of money nurturing and shaping international relations so that when they venture forth with 'questionable' foreign policies... strategic alliances- having been bought and established- offer little protest.

    There's more than meets the eye. As much goodwill as there might be... there's also other motivation. Let's at least acknowledge that.
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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    I find it humorous that when the US has a natural disaster we have to parade out a bunch of bands and singers to try and raise money from our own citizens and the rest of the World for help but when other countries have a natural disaster the first country they look to for "humanitarian" help is the US. I remember just last year commercials running in this country to help out Japan with relief for what happened to them. I wonder how many commercials have been running in Japan for us? :lol:

    As generous as the US has been regarding some events throughout the world... I think it is fair to say that the US spends a great deal of money nurturing and shaping international relations so that when they venture forth with 'questionable' foreign policies... strategic alliances- having been bought and established- offer little protest.

    There's more than meets the eye. As much goodwill as there might be... there's also other motivation. Let's at least acknowledge that.


    I would agree there's motivation. Just wish the countries that are actually shrouded by the comfrt they have because of the US would pay back.
  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    DS1119 wrote:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    I find it humorous that when the US has a natural disaster we have to parade out a bunch of bands and singers to try and raise money from our own citizens and the rest of the World for help but when other countries have a natural disaster the first country they look to for "humanitarian" help is the US. I remember just last year commercials running in this country to help out Japan with relief for what happened to them. I wonder how many commercials have been running in Japan for us? :lol:

    As generous as the US has been regarding some events throughout the world... I think it is fair to say that the US spends a great deal of money nurturing and shaping international relations so that when they venture forth with 'questionable' foreign policies... strategic alliances- having been bought and established- offer little protest.

    There's more than meets the eye. As much goodwill as there might be... there's also other motivation. Let's at least acknowledge that.


    I would agree there's motivation. Just wish the countries that are actually shrouded by the comfrt they have because of the US would pay back.

    Fair enough.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    the classic who gave more money:

    the noble cause

    I have $1,000 and i give $50 to the noble cause

    You have $10,000 and give $200 to the noble cause
    (for this exercise lets ignore the fact that you have to ability to print would currency and i dont)

    who gave more money???
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    JC29856 wrote:
    the classic who gave more money:

    the noble cause

    I have $1,000 and i give $50 to the noble cause

    You have $10,000 and give $200 to the noble cause
    (for this exercise lets ignore the fact that you have to ability to print would currency and i dont)

    who gave more money???



    The person who gave $200. :?
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    What was up with the guy Whoopie brings over to the news guy as the camera is cutting away?
    she says he wants to donate 1 million dollars!

    Wonder if he still did ...
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,183
    pandora wrote:
    What was up with the guy Whoopie brings over to the news guy as the camera is cutting away?
    she says he wants to donate 1 million dollars!

    Wonder if he still did ...

    Had the same thought. I think it was a skit but I'm not sure.
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    JimmyV wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    What was up with the guy Whoopie brings over to the news guy as the camera is cutting away?
    she says he wants to donate 1 million dollars!

    Wonder if he still did ...

    Had the same thought. I think it was a skit but I'm not sure.
    she didn't hold up her pinkie up to her mouth though ... ;):lol:

    it was kind of weird
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    This was broadcast around the world, so I imagine many from other countries have reciprocated on the charity front; haven't yet read anything about the funds raised though.

    Couple things about the concert itself - I didn't catch the bit of McCartney with Nirvana except for a snippet on the news this morning. Was it really as bad as it sounded? Voice-wise, that is...

    Also, I may have been high while watching portions (OK, I WAS high :mrgreen: ), but did anyone else think the dude singing next to Roger Waters looked alarmingly like a poor-man's Ed? I found it hilarious.

    And Comfortably Numb was gorgeous! Really nice to hear/see those two together.
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