another mass shooting spree in the US

DS1119

JonnyPistachio wrote:

And another tragic story...
I saw one the other day too -- thought about posting it here, but realized its all the same shit...anyways, a few days ago a father and his seven year old son went to try to sell their guns. The store woldnt buy them, so the father carefully loaded the rifle in the back seat, got his seven year old in his truck, and put his pistol in the center console. He forgot a single bullet was in the chamber and the gun went off and shot his seven year old through the chest. The boy died. Its just not worth it.

Tragic story but as about as irresponsible as a parent who gets in an accident and kills their child while drinking and driving.

JimmyV

dimitrispearljam wrote:

someone shoot to people.....and kill......

and the answers is "its bush fault ironic comment and anti-gun crowd says lies..

i dont have to comment more..

just im sorry for people looses their lifes

Couldn't agree more.

fife

DS1119 wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

And another tragic story...
I saw one the other day too -- thought about posting it here, but realized its all the same shit...anyways, a few days ago a father and his seven year old son went to try to sell their guns. The store woldnt buy them, so the father carefully loaded the rifle in the back seat, got his seven year old in his truck, and put his pistol in the center console. He forgot a single bullet was in the chamber and the gun went off and shot his seven year old through the chest. The boy died. Its just not worth it.

Tragic story but as about as irresponsible as a parent who gets in an accident and kills their child while drinking and driving.

I agree that this is a sad story and also a story about a really bad mistake. My question for people is why do people feel the need to have guns in their cars?

Speaking as an outside to the USA, i find it so weird how at one point Americans seem so brave but yet they seem fearful of so many things.

Living in canada i have never felt the need to buy a gun so what makes me different than others? I also have lived in some of the very bad parts of canada.

JC29856

ok the shooting is over, the people are dead, now lets move on to forensically psycho analyze why the shooter did it and report on the heroics at nauseam

polaris_x

fife wrote:

I agree that this is a sad story and also a story about a really bad mistake. My question for people is why do people feel the need to have guns in their cars?

Speaking as an outside to the USA, i find it so weird how at one point Americans seem so brave but yet they seem fearful of so many things.

Living in canada i have never felt the need to buy a gun so what makes me different than others? I also have lived in some of the very bad parts of canada.

1. it's cultural ... violence begets violence ... the nation has historically addressed issues of conflict through violence ...

2. the gun lobby ha successfully associated access to guns as being the equivalent to access to clean water ... and that there isn't too much more un-american than banning guns ... because once you ban guns - the next thing to happen is you'll lose all your freedoms and communist soviet union will be reborn ...

DS1119

chadwick wrote:

my question is (and maybe we have to look back into our history a bit) did the u.s. have mass shootings back in the 1700s & the 1800s? i am curious about this. we have been able to aquire firearms since this country was stolen then rebirthed. so did anyone ever go into a theater back in the day and do random shootings because they were having a shitty life?

anyone ever blow themselves up in a crowd back in the day?

when did all this start up?

Great question actually.

MotoDC

chadwick wrote:

my question is (and maybe we have to look back into our history a bit) did the u.s. have mass shootings back in the 1700s & the 1800s? i am curious about this. we have been able to aquire firearms since this country was stolen then rebirthed. so did anyone ever go into a theater back in the day and do random shootings because they were having a shitty life?

anyone ever blow themselves up in a crowd back in the day?

when did all this start up?

These are far more interesting questions than most that are asked in these gun threads. Sadly I've no answers.

MotoDC

I'm sure 99% of nations as defined in the modern era don't have some violence in their history and/or founding. I'm just sure of it. ( :roll: for clarity)

hedonist

MotoDC wrote:

chadwick wrote:

my question is (and maybe we have to look back into our history a bit) did the u.s. have mass shootings back in the 1700s & the 1800s? i am curious about this. we have been able to aquire firearms since this country was stolen then rebirthed. so did anyone ever go into a theater back in the day and do random shootings because they were having a shitty life?

anyone ever blow themselves up in a crowd back in the day?

when did all this start up?

These are far more interesting questions than most that are asked in these gun threads. Sadly I've no answers.

I don't either...but it made me think of Deadwood (the old HBO series) and how most everyone those days had a gun. Hell, Wild Bill Hickok was shot over a poker game. I'm sure shit like that went down a lot, but the means of getting that information out to the rest of the world wasn't as easily facilitated as it is now.

dancepartner

I'm glad Chadwick's question came back on this thread. And FYI, when I posted about the bow & arrow killings, that wasn't a gun so I hope this thread continues along the lines about wanton killing -- not pro-gun versus gun control.
Possibly, just short of the past few centuries, land owning barons, soldiers of the kings, royalty etc...had little opposition to killing serfs, slaves etc... whereas, if a commoner killed another, that other was someone's servant or property and they risked their own life in doing so. Reins were tight. Of course there were plenty of ruling elite sanctioned wars where rape pillage and plunder were commonplace so I'd say the kind of ilk we now call murderers --- were quite at home there or in gladiator arenas etc...
Now, (200 year snapshot) laws & courts sprang up and nobody is supposed to easily get away with killing another so my sumnation would be this: base animal behavior has been with us all along.
However, the breakdown of family, as well as the immersion of so much violent video games etc...to our youth's minds, are 2 relatively new alteration's in the human experiment proven to come with horrific consequences. Two things we must acknowledge and correct.
Why the hell isn't my avatar working????????????????????????????????

Cosmo

dancepartner wrote:

I'm glad Chadwick's question came back on this thread. And FYI, when I posted about the bow & arrow killings, that wasn't a gun so I hope this thread continues along the lines about wanton killing -- not pro-gun versus gun control.
Possibly, just short of the past few centuries, land owning barons, soldiers of the kings, royalty etc...had little opposition to killing serfs, slaves etc... whereas, if a commoner killed another, that other was someone's servant or property and they risked their own life in doing so. Reins were tight. Of course there were plenty of ruling elite sanctioned wars where rape pillage and plunder were commonplace so I'd say the kind of ilk we now call murderers --- were quite at home there or in gladiator arenas etc...
Now, (200 year snapshot) laws & courts sprang up and nobody is supposed to easily get away with killing another so my sumnation would be this: base animal behavior has been with us all along.
However, the breakdown of family, as well as the immersion of so much violent video games etc...to our youth's minds, are 2 relatively new alteration's in the human experiment proven to come with horrific consequences. Two things we must acknowledge and correct.
Why the hell isn't my avatar working????????????????????????????????

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Add.... there weren't many AR-15s readily availble to the general public in the 1700s and 1800s. If there were, they might have reacted differently.
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dancepartner

right about semi-autos widely available back when.
My avatar is showing in the avatar window and it says my changes were successful.... :oops:

STAYSEA

Just now on the news..
These guys were arrested for trying to shoot and kill.... JUSTIN BIEBER!!

:fp: :fp:

I guess they got some BIEBER FEVER.

catefrances

STAYSEA wrote:

Just now on the news..
These guys were arrested for trying to shoot and kill.... JUSTIN BIEBER!!

:fp: :fp:

I guess they got some BIEBER FEVER.

there are way too many idiots loose... im hoping the zombies eat them first.

lukin2006

and another...WTF...

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/artic ... n-in-place

Children among dead in Connecticut school shooting: Reports

NEWTOWN, CONN.— Some children were among those killed in a shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, on Friday, The Hartford Courant reported.

The newspaper said “multiple” people had been fatally shot, citing unnamed sources. It had earlier said it was unclear whether children were among the dead, but updated the story to say children were killed in the incident.

An official with knowledge of the situation says a gunman in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting has been killed.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is still under way, says the man apparently had two guns.

A dispatcher at the Newtown Volunteer Ambulance Corps says a teacher has been shot in the foot, but it’s unclear the extent of the other injuries.

Ambulance surrounded Sandy Hook, and parents ran toward the building Friday morning as a helicopter flew overhead.

The superintendent’s office says the district has locked down schools.

Danbury Hospital, located west of the school, had been put on alert for possible casualties, a hospital spokesman told Reuters.

A hospital spokeswoman told NBC Connecticut that the hospital had received three patients from the scene.

Connecticut State Police said its officers were at the scene with local police but provided no additional details. The emergency call to police occurred at 9:41 a.m., state police said.

An individual answering the phone at the Newtown Police Department declined to comment.

Newtown, with a population about 27,000, is in northern Fairfield County, southwest of Hartford and northeast of New York City.

Sandy Hook serves children in kindergarten through fourth grade, roughly ages 5 to 10. It is one of four elementary schools in the district. The town also has a grade 5-6 school, a middle school and a high school.

hedonist

Good god...just little children.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

I was just about to report the 'kindergarten' incident.

For those gun-totin', free bird, patriotic, 'it's your right' people that insist- laughably- that "guns make people safer"... come home from the fair.

I was shocked when driving to the Gorge last fall that, in a Big 5 sporting good store... assault rifles were on sale. WTF? A sale? Psssheeew. Just in time for the impending invasion?

You've made your bed. Now lay in it. A fukin kindergarten class. Well done! Well done. Morons.

hedonist

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

I was just about to report the 'kindergarten' incident.

For those gun-totin', free bird, patriotic, 'it's your right' people that insist- laughably- that "guns make people safer"... come home from the fair.

I was shocked when driving to the Gorge last fall that, in a Big 5 sporting good store... assault rifles were on sale. WTF? A sale? Psssheeew. Just in time for the impending invasion?

You've made your bed. Now lay in it. A fukin kindergarten class. Well done! Well done. Morons.

Agreed this is beyond fucked up.

But, not quite fair to lump nutjobs like this shooter in with responsible (or we'll call them sane, for argument's sake) gun owners.

Anyway, so-called discussion aside, yeah...beyond fucked up.

Kat

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