I'm glad Chadwick's question came back on this thread. And FYI, when I posted about the bow & arrow killings, that wasn't a gun so I hope this thread continues along the lines about wanton killing -- not pro-gun versus gun control.
Possibly, just short of the past few centuries, land owning barons, soldiers of the kings, royalty etc...had little opposition to killing serfs, slaves etc... whereas, if a commoner killed another, that other was someone's servant or property and they risked their own life in doing so. Reins were tight. Of course there were plenty of ruling elite sanctioned wars where rape pillage and plunder were commonplace so I'd say the kind of ilk we now call murderers --- were quite at home there or in gladiator arenas etc...
Now, (200 year snapshot) laws & courts sprang up and nobody is supposed to easily get away with killing another so my sumnation would be this: base animal behavior has been with us all along.
However, the breakdown of family, as well as the immersion of so much violent video games etc...to our youth's minds, are 2 relatively new alteration's in the human experiment proven to come with horrific consequences. Two things we must acknowledge and correct.
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Add.... there weren't many AR-15s readily availble to the general public in the 1700s and 1800s. If there were, they might have reacted differently.
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Children among dead in Connecticut school shooting: Reports
NEWTOWN, CONN.— Some children were among those killed in a shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, on Friday, The Hartford Courant reported.
The newspaper said “multiple” people had been fatally shot, citing unnamed sources. It had earlier said it was unclear whether children were among the dead, but updated the story to say children were killed in the incident.
An official with knowledge of the situation says a gunman in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting has been killed.
The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is still under way, says the man apparently had two guns.
A dispatcher at the Newtown Volunteer Ambulance Corps says a teacher has been shot in the foot, but it’s unclear the extent of the other injuries.
Ambulance surrounded Sandy Hook, and parents ran toward the building Friday morning as a helicopter flew overhead.
The superintendent’s office says the district has locked down schools.
Danbury Hospital, located west of the school, had been put on alert for possible casualties, a hospital spokesman told Reuters.
A hospital spokeswoman told NBC Connecticut that the hospital had received three patients from the scene.
Connecticut State Police said its officers were at the scene with local police but provided no additional details. The emergency call to police occurred at 9:41 a.m., state police said.
An individual answering the phone at the Newtown Police Department declined to comment.
Newtown, with a population about 27,000, is in northern Fairfield County, southwest of Hartford and northeast of New York City.
Sandy Hook serves children in kindergarten through fourth grade, roughly ages 5 to 10. It is one of four elementary schools in the district. The town also has a grade 5-6 school, a middle school and a high school.
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I was just about to report the 'kindergarten' incident.
For those gun-totin', free bird, patriotic, 'it's your right' people that insist- laughably- that "guns make people safer"... come home from the fair.
I was shocked when driving to the Gorge last fall that, in a Big 5 sporting good store... assault rifles were on sale. WTF? A sale? Psssheeew. Just in time for the impending invasion?
You've made your bed. Now lay in it. A fukin kindergarten class. Well done! Well done. Morons.
I was just about to report the 'kindergarten' incident.
For those gun-totin', free bird, patriotic, 'it's your right' people that insist- laughably- that "guns make people safer"... come home from the fair.
I was shocked when driving to the Gorge last fall that, in a Big 5 sporting good store... assault rifles were on sale. WTF? A sale? Psssheeew. Just in time for the impending invasion?
You've made your bed. Now lay in it. A fukin kindergarten class. Well done! Well done. Morons.
Agreed this is beyond fucked up.
But, not quite fair to lump nutjobs like this shooter in with responsible (or we'll call them sane, for argument's sake) gun owners.
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Just now on the news..
These guys were arrested for trying to shoot and kill.... JUSTIN BIEBER!!
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I guess they got some BIEBER FEVER.
there are way too many idiots loose... im hoping the zombies eat them first.
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Children among dead in Connecticut school shooting: Reports
NEWTOWN, CONN.— Some children were among those killed in a shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, on Friday, The Hartford Courant reported.
The newspaper said “multiple” people had been fatally shot, citing unnamed sources. It had earlier said it was unclear whether children were among the dead, but updated the story to say children were killed in the incident.
An official with knowledge of the situation says a gunman in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting has been killed.
The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is still under way, says the man apparently had two guns.
A dispatcher at the Newtown Volunteer Ambulance Corps says a teacher has been shot in the foot, but it’s unclear the extent of the other injuries.
Ambulance surrounded Sandy Hook, and parents ran toward the building Friday morning as a helicopter flew overhead.
The superintendent’s office says the district has locked down schools.
Danbury Hospital, located west of the school, had been put on alert for possible casualties, a hospital spokesman told Reuters.
A hospital spokeswoman told NBC Connecticut that the hospital had received three patients from the scene.
Connecticut State Police said its officers were at the scene with local police but provided no additional details. The emergency call to police occurred at 9:41 a.m., state police said.
An individual answering the phone at the Newtown Police Department declined to comment.
Newtown, with a population about 27,000, is in northern Fairfield County, southwest of Hartford and northeast of New York City.
Sandy Hook serves children in kindergarten through fourth grade, roughly ages 5 to 10. It is one of four elementary schools in the district. The town also has a grade 5-6 school, a middle school and a high school.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
For those gun-totin', free bird, patriotic, 'it's your right' people that insist- laughably- that "guns make people safer"... come home from the fair.
I was shocked when driving to the Gorge last fall that, in a Big 5 sporting good store... assault rifles were on sale. WTF? A sale? Psssheeew. Just in time for the impending invasion?
You've made your bed. Now lay in it. A fukin kindergarten class. Well done! Well done. Morons.
But, not quite fair to lump nutjobs like this shooter in with responsible (or we'll call them sane, for argument's sake) gun owners.
Anyway, so-called discussion aside, yeah...beyond fucked up.