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another mass shooting spree in the US

SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
edited December 2012 in A Moving Train
It is now just called Tuesday in the US.

Very sad.

http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2012/12/clackamas_town_center_shooting_3.html

Even Santa hit the deck.

"I was by Santa Claus in front of Macy's and we heard 'pow pow pow.' People screamed and ran. I saw Santa drop to the floor," but he was not injured, Schwab said.
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  • fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
    ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT!!!! :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I call BS on the "automatic" weapon. More lies spread by the anti-gun crowd.
  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    unsung wrote:
    I call BS on the "automatic" weapon. More lies spread by the anti-gun crowd.

    Yup. that's what upsets me the most too
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,720
    someone shoot to people.....and kill......

    and the answers is "its bush fault ironic comment and anti-gun crowd says lies..

    i dont have to comment more..

    just im sorry for people looses their lifes
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Smellyman wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    I call BS on the "automatic" weapon. More lies spread by the anti-gun crowd.

    Yup. that's what upsets me the most too

    :lol:
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,104
    Smellyman wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    I call BS on the "automatic" weapon. More lies spread by the anti-gun crowd.

    Yup. that's what upsets me the most too

    Are both of you serious or only one of you? The only reference to an "automatic" weapon was Canzano quoting what he heard someone else say, they make a clear reference to "semi-automatic" in other parts of the article. Canzano's a sports columnist and doesn't seem like much of a gun guy to me.

    The general public confuses the term 'automatic' and 'semi-automatic' often. I don't think it's because of lies from the anti-gun crowd. When you think about it, semi-automatic doesn't really make sense, kind of like clipless pedals.
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,720
    Go Beavers wrote:
    Smellyman wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    I call BS on the "automatic" weapon. More lies spread by the anti-gun crowd.

    Yup. that's what upsets me the most too

    Are both of you serious or only one of you? .
    im pretty sure Smellyman comment was sarcasm..
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  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    Well I think we all know the reason for this. If more people were to carry more guns then the shooter would never have thought about doing that. ;)

    is that not the reasoning from the last shoot out. If more people did carry guns then the shooter would not have been able to kill as many people as he did.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,460
    Awful.

    We have to give up our love affair with guns.
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    I'm sure he would've been able to do the same kind of damage with a knife right?
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Awful.

    We have to give up our love affair with guns.

    i really don't think it's the guns ... i think this is cultural ... historically - the country is simply a violent nation where problems are solved through force rather than diplomacy ... it's culturally inherent that if someone has a beef - that the resolution will be in some violent act ...
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    fear4freedom wrote:
    ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT!!!! :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:

    to some extent...im sure he has some sort of military background, maybe shipped off to some middle eastern desert away from his job, wife and kids, forced to fight some needless war of choice, maybe raped and killed a few "terrorists" then came home 3 years ago to no family, no job and got hooked on the pts drugs and couldnt take it no more.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,460
    polaris_x wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Awful.

    We have to give up our love affair with guns.

    i really don't think it's the guns ... i think this is cultural ... historically - the country is simply a violent nation where problems are solved through force rather than diplomacy ... it's culturally inherent that if someone has a beef - that the resolution will be in some violent act ...


    That's why I said give up our love affair with guns and not give up guns. ;)
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    cincybearcat wrote:
    That's why I said give up our love affair with guns and not give up guns. ;)

    today is 12/12/12 ... might be why we actually agreed on something ... :lol:
  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    fear4freedom wrote:
    ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT!!!! :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:

    It's these types of comments in these types of threads that have me disinterested in AMT.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:
    fear4freedom wrote:
    ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT!!!! :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:

    It's these types of comments in these types of threads that have me disinterested in AMT.

    i was the same way...now i just go with it. think about the joy you give to the silly poster by responding with their quote, thats what i do and its warms my heart. stick around
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,460
    polaris_x wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    That's why I said give up our love affair with guns and not give up guns. ;)

    today is 12/12/12 ... might be why we actually agreed on something ... :lol:


    I believe so. I joined your america sucks team on this issue. ;)
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Perhaps Americans should just come to accept the fact that if we are not going to do anything to address the issue of guns on our streets, we are going to have to live with the consequences of our inactions. That being, crazy fucks flipping the switch and shooting up the place becoming an acceptable side effect.
    Weren't there other Mall Shootings around Christmas in the past? I don't know... maybe we can make it part of our Chirstmas celebrations.
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    my question is (and maybe we have to look back into our history a bit) did the u.s. have mass shootings back in the 1700s & the 1800s? i am curious about this. we have been able to aquire firearms since this country was stolen then rebirthed. so did anyone ever go into a theater back in the day and do random shootings because they were having a shitty life?

    anyone ever blow themselves up in a crowd back in the day?

    when did all this start up?
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  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    And another tragic story...
    I saw one the other day too -- thought about posting it here, but realized its all the same shit...anyways, a few days ago a father and his seven year old son went to try to sell their guns. The store woldnt buy them, so the father carefully loaded the rifle in the back seat, got his seven year old in his truck, and put his pistol in the center console. He forgot a single bullet was in the chamber and the gun went off and shot his seven year old through the chest. The boy died. Its just not worth it.
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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    And another tragic story...
    I saw one the other day too -- thought about posting it here, but realized its all the same shit...anyways, a few days ago a father and his seven year old son went to try to sell their guns. The store woldnt buy them, so the father carefully loaded the rifle in the back seat, got his seven year old in his truck, and put his pistol in the center console. He forgot a single bullet was in the chamber and the gun went off and shot his seven year old through the chest. The boy died. Its just not worth it.



    Tragic story but as about as irresponsible as a parent who gets in an accident and kills their child while drinking and driving.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,183
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    someone shoot to people.....and kill......

    and the answers is "its bush fault ironic comment and anti-gun crowd says lies..

    i dont have to comment more..

    just im sorry for people looses their lifes

    Couldn't agree more.
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  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    DS1119 wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    And another tragic story...
    I saw one the other day too -- thought about posting it here, but realized its all the same shit...anyways, a few days ago a father and his seven year old son went to try to sell their guns. The store woldnt buy them, so the father carefully loaded the rifle in the back seat, got his seven year old in his truck, and put his pistol in the center console. He forgot a single bullet was in the chamber and the gun went off and shot his seven year old through the chest. The boy died. Its just not worth it.



    Tragic story but as about as irresponsible as a parent who gets in an accident and kills their child while drinking and driving.

    I agree that this is a sad story and also a story about a really bad mistake. My question for people is why do people feel the need to have guns in their cars?

    Speaking as an outside to the USA, i find it so weird how at one point Americans seem so brave but yet they seem fearful of so many things.

    Living in canada i have never felt the need to buy a gun so what makes me different than others? I also have lived in some of the very bad parts of canada.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    ok the shooting is over, the people are dead, now lets move on to forensically psycho analyze why the shooter did it and report on the heroics at nauseam
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    fife wrote:
    I agree that this is a sad story and also a story about a really bad mistake. My question for people is why do people feel the need to have guns in their cars?

    Speaking as an outside to the USA, i find it so weird how at one point Americans seem so brave but yet they seem fearful of so many things.

    Living in canada i have never felt the need to buy a gun so what makes me different than others? I also have lived in some of the very bad parts of canada.

    1. it's cultural ... violence begets violence ... the nation has historically addressed issues of conflict through violence ...

    2. the gun lobby ha successfully associated access to guns as being the equivalent to access to clean water ... and that there isn't too much more un-american than banning guns ... because once you ban guns - the next thing to happen is you'll lose all your freedoms and communist soviet union will be reborn ...
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    chadwick wrote:
    my question is (and maybe we have to look back into our history a bit) did the u.s. have mass shootings back in the 1700s & the 1800s? i am curious about this. we have been able to aquire firearms since this country was stolen then rebirthed. so did anyone ever go into a theater back in the day and do random shootings because they were having a shitty life?

    anyone ever blow themselves up in a crowd back in the day?

    when did all this start up?



    Great question actually.
  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    chadwick wrote:
    my question is (and maybe we have to look back into our history a bit) did the u.s. have mass shootings back in the 1700s & the 1800s? i am curious about this. we have been able to aquire firearms since this country was stolen then rebirthed. so did anyone ever go into a theater back in the day and do random shootings because they were having a shitty life?

    anyone ever blow themselves up in a crowd back in the day?

    when did all this start up?
    These are far more interesting questions than most that are asked in these gun threads. Sadly I've no answers.
  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    I'm sure 99% of nations as defined in the modern era don't have some violence in their history and/or founding. I'm just sure of it. ( :roll: for clarity)
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    MotoDC wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    my question is (and maybe we have to look back into our history a bit) did the u.s. have mass shootings back in the 1700s & the 1800s? i am curious about this. we have been able to aquire firearms since this country was stolen then rebirthed. so did anyone ever go into a theater back in the day and do random shootings because they were having a shitty life?

    anyone ever blow themselves up in a crowd back in the day?

    when did all this start up?
    These are far more interesting questions than most that are asked in these gun threads. Sadly I've no answers.
    I don't either...but it made me think of Deadwood (the old HBO series) and how most everyone those days had a gun. Hell, Wild Bill Hickok was shot over a poker game. I'm sure shit like that went down a lot, but the means of getting that information out to the rest of the world wasn't as easily facilitated as it is now.
  • dancepartnerdancepartner Posts: 324
    I'm glad Chadwick's question came back on this thread. And FYI, when I posted about the bow & arrow killings, that wasn't a gun so I hope this thread continues along the lines about wanton killing -- not pro-gun versus gun control.
    Possibly, just short of the past few centuries, land owning barons, soldiers of the kings, royalty etc...had little opposition to killing serfs, slaves etc... whereas, if a commoner killed another, that other was someone's servant or property and they risked their own life in doing so. Reins were tight. Of course there were plenty of ruling elite sanctioned wars where rape pillage and plunder were commonplace so I'd say the kind of ilk we now call murderers --- were quite at home there or in gladiator arenas etc...
    Now, (200 year snapshot) laws & courts sprang up and nobody is supposed to easily get away with killing another so my sumnation would be this: base animal behavior has been with us all along.
    However, the breakdown of family, as well as the immersion of so much violent video games etc...to our youth's minds, are 2 relatively new alteration's in the human experiment proven to come with horrific consequences. Two things we must acknowledge and correct.
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