Elliott Smith

ledvedderman

Yup...what a fucking talent. Listening to "New Moon" now and it's just unreal. It's sad that King's Crossing seemed to be his own personal eulogy.

mfc2006

One of the best songwriters ever. King's Crossing is so depressing....but so beautiful. RIP, Elliott.

ledvedderman

MFC, have you heard his 2003 concert from the Henry Fonda Theater? It's on archive.org I know. You can tell he's fucked up in the show. Opens with King's Crossing and it's just heartbreaking. Amazing show though.

mfc2006

Yeah, I've heard that one. It's a tough one to listen to. One of my favorite boots is Live From the Black Cat. You should check that out!

ledvedderman

mfc2006 wrote:

Yeah, I've heard that one. It's a tough one to listen to. One of my favorite boots is Live From the Black Cat. You should check that out!

Consider me on my way to do so.

smarchee

one of my favourite artists, been a huge fan for many years

been listening to alot of Elliott lately cause I am pretty bummed out

absolutely in love with Pretty Mary K(other version) lately....it's my new favourite song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DUS9_DB ... re=related

"I'll be waiting patient, with my dead imagination, while your with some other man" is another amazing line ES wrote, fak

brilliant lyricist

Jerome230

ledvedderman wrote:

MFC, have you heard his 2003 concert from the Henry Fonda Theater? It's on archive.org I know. You can tell he's fucked up in the show. Opens with King's Crossing and it's just heartbreaking. Amazing show though.

Actually, he was sober by that point, and for all of 2003. Just do yourself a favor, and don't look up anything about his Sunset Junction show in LA in 2001.

You want to hear something eerie, youtube the song "Misery Let Me Down" from him. It's an unfinished song (to the general public, at least) that he played while warming up for a radio show. The bad part is, he quit playing it before he was finished, leaving everyone guessing as to how it ended.

keelycan

Everyone needs Some Elliot Smith ..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQsNEc1kJvg

smarchee

keelycan wrote:

Everyone needs Some Elliot Smith ..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQsNEc1kJvg

The Biggest Lie is a pretty good ES tune

Definitely Needle In The Hay is my favourite from his self-titled album.

I think Coming Up Roses is my second favourite, what about you

smarchee

possibly one of the best songs ever written and should be listened to often

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5s1WSOAEWQ

BinFrog

smarchee wrote:

been listening to alot of Elliott lately cause I am pretty bummed out

That's not the wisest choice of music if you are bummed out. You need something uplifting and energetic. If I am ever depressed, the last thing I want to listen to is something like Elliott Smith or Nick Drake.

smarchee

BinFrog wrote:

smarchee wrote:

been listening to alot of Elliott lately cause I am pretty bummed out

That's not the wisest choice of music if you are bummed out. You need something uplifting and energetic. If I am ever depressed, the last thing I want to listen to is something like Elliott Smith or Nick Drake.

yeah I know, I am a big Elliott fan, have been for years, so I know it's not the best choice, it just fit my mood there for a couple of days and I wanted to listen to a lot of his music

I am feeling much better now

mfc2006

Son of Sam is absolutely brilliant...the interplay between the piano, guitar & drums floors me every single time i hear it!

BinFrog

mfc2006 wrote:

Son of Sam is absolutely brilliant...the interplay between the piano, guitar & drums floors me every single time i hear it!

My favorite song of his. That and "Wouldn't Mama Be Proud".

smarchee

mfc2006 wrote:

Son of Sam is absolutely brilliant...the interplay between the piano, guitar & drums floors me every single time i hear it!

Baby Britain is also similar

JH6056

Back in I think '97 or '98ish I was living in NYC and was in the Village seeing the band Dead Moon (it's OK tag!) in a bar (I think Brownies was the bar, on Ave A). I got there early and was sitting at the nearly empty bar reading my fave columns of a local paper. A very pale guy sat near me and was talking to some people. I was reading and commenting out loud and sometimes laughing out loud, and eventually I could tell someone was watching me, I turned, and the pale guy said "Can I ask what you're reading?" (at that moment it was a column called "Dirty Sanchez" that I'm pretty sure was secretly written by Soul Coughing's M. Doughty). I told him and showed it to him and we both kept reading.

We had a nice conversation, about Dead Moon, about NY bars, about NYC. I'm pretty sure we introduced ourselves to each other, but I'd never seen him before so his name didn't mean anything.

We kept talking and eventually 2 shy young folks came up and again I got that feeling of being watched... turned around and they were clearly waiting for him. When he said hi to them, they asked him to sign something and said they were big fans. I obviously caught on that he was a known artist, but still didn't really know who he was.

We ran into each other several times during the show and always had a brief chat, and when I saw him on my way out we had a nice exchange on the level of "It was really cool talking to you throughout the night".

It was years later (even after Good Will Hunting, where I knew the song but didn't connect it to the guy) when I finally saw him in a magazine and thought "Hey, that was that guy at Brownies! Cool!"

As usual, only got to really appreciate the talent after he was no longer with us. Still so sad he's gone, and really hate the way he went out (cuz it was never established whether he did it himself or was killed).

Per the "Deceased musicians you miss most" thread, at least we know he's up there with great company!

smarchee

JH6056 wrote:

Back in I think '97 or '98ish I was living in NYC and was in the Village seeing the band Dead Moon (it's OK tag!) in a bar (I think Brownies was the bar, on Ave A). I got there early and was sitting at the nearly empty bar reading my fave columns of a local paper. A very pale guy sat near me and was talking to some people. I was reading and commenting out loud and sometimes laughing out loud, and eventually I could tell someone was watching me, I turned, and the pale guy said "Can I ask what you're reading?" (at that moment it was a column called "Dirty Sanchez" that I'm pretty sure was secretly written by Soul Coughing's M. Doughty). I told him and showed it to him and we both kept reading.

We had a nice conversation, about Dead Moon, about NY bars, about NYC. I'm pretty sure we introduced ourselves to each other, but I'd never seen him before so his name didn't mean anything.

We kept talking and eventually 2 shy young folks came up and again I got that feeling of being watched... turned around and they were clearly waiting for him. When he said hi to them, they asked him to sign something and said they were big fans. I obviously caught on that he was a known artist, but still didn't really know who he was.

We ran into each other several times during the show and always had a brief chat, and when I saw him on my way out we had a nice exchange on the level of "It was really cool talking to you throughout the night".

It was years later (even after Good Will Hunting, where I knew the song but didn't connect it to the guy) when I finally saw him in a magazine and thought "Hey, that was that guy at Brownies! Cool!"

As usual, only got to really appreciate the talent after he was no longer with us. Still so sad he's gone, and really hate the way he went out (cuz it was never established whether he did it himself or was killed).

Per the "Deceased musicians you miss most" thread, at least we know he's up there with great company!

wow, thanks for sharing that story

STAYSEA

Miss that Guy!
Figure 8, was my favorite.

JH6056

smarchee wrote:

JH6056 wrote:

Back in I think '97 or '98ish I was living in NYC and was in the Village seeing the band Dead Moon (it's OK tag!) in a bar (I think Brownies was the bar, on Ave A). I got there early and was sitting at the nearly empty bar reading my fave columns of a local paper. A very pale guy sat near me and was talking to some people. I was reading and commenting out loud and sometimes laughing out loud, and eventually I could tell someone was watching me, I turned, and the pale guy said "Can I ask what you're reading?" (at that moment it was a column called "Dirty Sanchez" that I'm pretty sure was secretly written by Soul Coughing's M. Doughty). I told him and showed it to him and we both kept reading.

We had a nice conversation, about Dead Moon, about NY bars, about NYC. I'm pretty sure we introduced ourselves to each other, but I'd never seen him before so his name didn't mean anything.

We kept talking and eventually 2 shy young folks came up and again I got that feeling of being watched... turned around and they were clearly waiting for him. When he said hi to them, they asked him to sign something and said they were big fans. I obviously caught on that he was a known artist, but still didn't really know who he was.

We ran into each other several times during the show and always had a brief chat, and when I saw him on my way out we had a nice exchange on the level of "It was really cool talking to you throughout the night".

It was years later (even after Good Will Hunting, where I knew the song but didn't connect it to the guy) when I finally saw him in a magazine and thought "Hey, that was that guy at Brownies! Cool!"

As usual, only got to really appreciate the talent after he was no longer with us. Still so sad he's gone, and really hate the way he went out (cuz it was never established whether he did it himself or was killed).

Per the "Deceased musicians you miss most" thread, at least we know he's up there with great company!

wow, thanks for sharing that story

Thank you, it was nice to have a reason to share it!

mfc2006

Awesome story!!

JH6056

mfc2006 wrote:

Awesome story!!

Nittany1bn

i never paid any attention to elliot smith while he was alive, but about a year ago i heard the rhett miller cover of happiness, and suffice to say i pay attention now.

smarchee

kinda been bummed out this weekend, what with being alone and such

spinning some Elliott today, and currently listening to Either/Or

some great songs on that record

STAYSEA

I miss Figure 8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GJxw8kZrbc

smarchee

spinning the self-titled right now, Elliott sounds so much better on vinyl, the harmonies of his voice, such an amazing song writer, such a loss

no bad dream fucker's gonna boss me around\

edit: if you havent heard Queens of The Stone Age cover of Christian Brothers, please change that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo2h57KpTSY

mfc2006

smarchee wrote:

spinning the self-titled right now, Elliott sounds so much better on vinyl, the harmonies of his voice, such an amazing song writer, such a loss

no bad dream fucker's gonna boss me around\

edit: if you havent heard Queens of The Stone Age cover of Christian Brothers, please change that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo2h57KpTSY

wow. as a huge ES & Queens fan....how have I never heard this? do you have an mp3 of this, smarchee? thanks a ton for the link!

smarchee

mfc2006 wrote:

smarchee wrote:

spinning the self-titled right now, Elliott sounds so much better on vinyl, the harmonies of his voice, such an amazing song writer, such a loss

no bad dream fucker's gonna boss me around\

edit: if you havent heard Queens of The Stone Age cover of Christian Brothers, please change that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo2h57KpTSY

wow. as a huge ES & Queens fan....how have I never heard this? do you have an mp3 of this, smarchee? thanks a ton for the link!

yep, it was a b-side to the Sick, Sick, Sick single from Era Vulgaris

being a fan of both, I too was blown away when I heard that

I'll pm you for your e-mail address again

mfc2006

thanks a ton, man!

red mos

I only have, "an Introduction to Elliot Smith" but it's a great album.

What should I get next album wise?

STAYSEA

I think if any one really cared. He would be alive today. He was a stranger in a different time. No one except a few saw his brilliance.

I read an article , in his suicide letter...

He said no one gets it and he gives up... not a direct quote.

But every one bashed him and called him a wuss. He was too depressed to carry on. He did what he did the same year as Kurt. Do I prove a point? I rather save Elliot, then spend time with Kurt.

I'm glad he's getting recognition FINALLY.

IF one person had said yeah you are great, we love you, he might still be here.

He felt and was told he was meaningless, and his music sucked.

STAYSEA

red mos wrote:

I only have, "an Introduction to Elliot Smith" but it's a great album.

What should I get next album wise?

Figure 8...

That is his heart.